5ephir0th Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 I always fly on VR but it looks it happen on 2D and VR. Already did a clean of fxo and metashader folder, it makes no difference. Secondary shadows option makes no difference. Shadows on high quality Instant mission of Viper on ramp start at Caucasus so no new lights on airfields should apply Terrain objects shadow to default, normal behaviour: Terrain objects shadow to flat, it still looks like default: Terrain objects shadow to off, on airfields it still work like default but now you can see the shadows through planes and structures, even through the cockpit: On terrain objects it work as expected: So theres a problem with flat shadows and maybe at off 3 NZXT H9 Flow Black | Intel Core i5 13600KF OCed P5.6 E4.4 | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX | G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5-6000 32GB C30 OCed 6600 C32 | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition | Western Digital SN770 2TB | Gigabyte GP-UD1000GM PG5 ATX 3.0 1000W | SteelSeries Apex 7 | Razer Viper Mini | SteelSeries Artics Nova 7 | LG OLED42C2 | Xiaomi P1 55" Virpil T-50 CM2 Base + Thrustmaster Warthog Stick | WinWing Orion 2 F16EX Viper Throttle | WinWing ICP | 3 x Thrustmaster MFD | Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals | Oculus Quest 2 DCS World | Persian Gulf | Syria | Flaming Cliff 3 | P-51D Mustang | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | Fw-109 A-8 | A-10C II Tank Killer | F/A-18C Hornet | F-14B Tomcat | F-16C Viper | F-15E Strike Eagle | M2000C | Ka-50 BlackShark III | Mi-24P Hind | AH-64D Apache | SuperCarrier
Fulcrumkiller31 Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 same here Computer: I7 12700K OC 5.0 All Cores, EVGA 3070TI FTW 3, MSI Tomahawk Z690 DDR4 WIFI, 64 GB Corsair DDR4 3600 MHz, M.2 NVME 3TB Gear: Virpil T-50CM2 Mongoose Stick, CM3 Base, CM3 Throttle, Logitech Pedals, HP Reverb G2 Modules: F-15E, F-18C, F-16C, F-14, A-10C II, AV-8B, M-2000C, Mirage F1, F-5, AH-64D, MI-24, KA-50, Nevada TTR, Syria, Persian Gulf, Falklands, Sinai, Afghanistan
Hiob Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 Jupp, I have terrain shadows on flat (as always) but somehow they are a mess. Some render, some don't, some look weird. 1 "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?"
zildac Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 +1 here 14900KS | Maximus Hero Z690 | ASUS 4090 TUF OC | 64GB DDR5 6600 | DCS on 2TB NVMe | WarBRD+Warthog Stick | CM3 | TM TPR's | Varjo Aero
Caldero Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) +1 Same here Strange shadows behaviour in several maps (Caucasus, Syria) & several aircrafts (AV8B, F14...) Vanilla install.no mods, only workarounds I found Is SETTINGS -> TERRAIN SHADOWS -> (FLAT or DEFAULT) Regards Edited October 28, 2022 by Caldero
some1 Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 The broken terrain shadows may be the reason for noticeably worse performance in VR. It's like the default "smooth" terrain object shadows can never be turned off unless you turn off the shadows completely using the option in the left column in the settings menu. 1 Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
5ephir0th Posted October 28, 2022 Author Posted October 28, 2022 Just now, some1 said: The broken terrain shadows may be the reason for noticeably worse performance in VR. It's like the default "smooth" terrain object shadows can never be turned off unless you turn off the shadows completely using the option in the left column in the settings menu. That was i think, that a big part of the worse performance its for people like me that was using flat shadows on terrain objects, now we are forced to use default. It surprise me how a so obvious bug like this, that happen on VR and 2D wasnt found before the launch of the update or maybe they found and cant be addressed on time, in that case at least i have expected a note on changelog 3 NZXT H9 Flow Black | Intel Core i5 13600KF OCed P5.6 E4.4 | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX | G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5-6000 32GB C30 OCed 6600 C32 | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition | Western Digital SN770 2TB | Gigabyte GP-UD1000GM PG5 ATX 3.0 1000W | SteelSeries Apex 7 | Razer Viper Mini | SteelSeries Artics Nova 7 | LG OLED42C2 | Xiaomi P1 55" Virpil T-50 CM2 Base + Thrustmaster Warthog Stick | WinWing Orion 2 F16EX Viper Throttle | WinWing ICP | 3 x Thrustmaster MFD | Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals | Oculus Quest 2 DCS World | Persian Gulf | Syria | Flaming Cliff 3 | P-51D Mustang | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | Fw-109 A-8 | A-10C II Tank Killer | F/A-18C Hornet | F-14B Tomcat | F-16C Viper | F-15E Strike Eagle | M2000C | Ka-50 BlackShark III | Mi-24P Hind | AH-64D Apache | SuperCarrier
XCNuse Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 Dumb question to anyone this is happening to; did you ensure FXO/Metashaders folders were cleared out? There are reports it isn't happening to everyone which seems like there's some sort of weird culprit in here.
some1 Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, XCNuse said: Dumb question to anyone this is happening to; did you ensure FXO/Metashaders folders were cleared out? No difference. 1 Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
XCNuse Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 Another quick follow up then; to those it is happening to; please also share what GPU and driver version you're on!
5ephir0th Posted October 28, 2022 Author Posted October 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, XCNuse said: Dumb question to anyone this is happening to; did you ensure FXO/Metashaders folders were cleared out? There are reports it isn't happening to everyone which seems like there's some sort of weird culprit in here. Cmon, i already told on the first line of the topic... And it doesnt happen to all cause it only happens if you have terrain objects shadow on off for the bug seeing the shadow through the object or if you set as flat, that works exactly same as default (i already explained too) 1 1 NZXT H9 Flow Black | Intel Core i5 13600KF OCed P5.6 E4.4 | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX | G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5-6000 32GB C30 OCed 6600 C32 | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition | Western Digital SN770 2TB | Gigabyte GP-UD1000GM PG5 ATX 3.0 1000W | SteelSeries Apex 7 | Razer Viper Mini | SteelSeries Artics Nova 7 | LG OLED42C2 | Xiaomi P1 55" Virpil T-50 CM2 Base + Thrustmaster Warthog Stick | WinWing Orion 2 F16EX Viper Throttle | WinWing ICP | 3 x Thrustmaster MFD | Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals | Oculus Quest 2 DCS World | Persian Gulf | Syria | Flaming Cliff 3 | P-51D Mustang | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | Fw-109 A-8 | A-10C II Tank Killer | F/A-18C Hornet | F-14B Tomcat | F-16C Viper | F-15E Strike Eagle | M2000C | Ka-50 BlackShark III | Mi-24P Hind | AH-64D Apache | SuperCarrier
XCNuse Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, 5ephir0th said: Cmon, i already told on the first line of the topic... And it doesnt happen to all cause it only happens if you have terrain objects shadow on off for the bug seeing the shadow through the object or if you set as flat, that works exactly same as default (i already explained too) Chill out man; there's several other people in this thread already that have said they have the same issue and they didn't share any potential relevant information. That comment was not directed at you OP.
Steel Jaw Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, 5ephir0th said: It surprise me how a so obvious bug like this, that happen on VR and 2D wasnt found before the launch of the update Not surprised at all because they’ve never had enough internal testers and I for one as a DCS flier since 1995 have volunteered my time repeatedly over the years. 2 "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, Red Dragon 7800XT/16GB, monitor: GIGABYTE M32QC 32" (31.5" Viewable) QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 165Hz.
Flappie Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 The issue has been identified and a fix is in the making. 5 7 ---
Hiob Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Flappie said: The issue has been identified and a fix is in the making. Do you know if it fixes shadows rendering only or does it improve performance as well? "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?"
5ephir0th Posted October 28, 2022 Author Posted October 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Flappie said: The issue has been identified and a fix is in the making. Great to hear that Flappie, thanks! NZXT H9 Flow Black | Intel Core i5 13600KF OCed P5.6 E4.4 | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX | G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5-6000 32GB C30 OCed 6600 C32 | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition | Western Digital SN770 2TB | Gigabyte GP-UD1000GM PG5 ATX 3.0 1000W | SteelSeries Apex 7 | Razer Viper Mini | SteelSeries Artics Nova 7 | LG OLED42C2 | Xiaomi P1 55" Virpil T-50 CM2 Base + Thrustmaster Warthog Stick | WinWing Orion 2 F16EX Viper Throttle | WinWing ICP | 3 x Thrustmaster MFD | Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals | Oculus Quest 2 DCS World | Persian Gulf | Syria | Flaming Cliff 3 | P-51D Mustang | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | Fw-109 A-8 | A-10C II Tank Killer | F/A-18C Hornet | F-14B Tomcat | F-16C Viper | F-15E Strike Eagle | M2000C | Ka-50 BlackShark III | Mi-24P Hind | AH-64D Apache | SuperCarrier
ebabil Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 same here, planes look floating and shadows are penetrating everything 1 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
odanusbyt Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 4 hours ago, XCNuse said: Dumb question to anyone this is happening to; did you ensure FXO/Metashaders folders were cleared out? There are reports it isn't happening to everyone which seems like there's some sort of weird culprit in here. So after ensure FXO/Metashaders folders were cleared out that issue doesnt exist on your pc?
tomcat_driver Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 12 hours ago, Steel Jaw said: Not surprised at all because they’ve never had enough internal testers and I for one as a DCS flier since 1995 have volunteered my time repeatedly over the years. Do you play on Open beta? If so, well, there you have it, Tester. 3
cygnet778 Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 +1 Unable to enforce flat shadows, plus an awful lot of aliasing is happening when shadows are rendered over building in major cities I also noticed some long range focus change 1 i9-9900K GeForce RTX2080Ti 3.6Ghz stock boost to 5.0GHz, 64Gb RAM Kingston DDR4, DCS on SSD Kingston SA10008480G, LG monitor 144Hz 34" curved, TrackIR 5 TM Warthog HOTAS, TM TPR Pendular Rudder
XCNuse Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) Finally had a chance to update (flight group forced me). I am one of the people not experiencing this bug. Shadows do however appear very different (SUPER detailed compared to what they were). They are however disappearing at a pretty short (if I were to guess 100ish ft) range. Images for comparisons. Nvidia Control Panel is all defaults other than an adjusted max FPS (hence the no vsync) As always I ensure FXO and metashaders are deleted (this time they oddly did not), and then rip through the encyclopedia and ME to cache all of the maps and vehicles. EVGA 3070 XC3 on 522.25 null null Edited October 29, 2022 by XCNuse
Glide Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) With Terrain Shadows set to Default, I notice some strangeness around the shadow of the canopy. The fuzzy shadow of the canopy on the ground in the first image seems to be happening to the tail section shadow as well. In the second images, the shadows on the vertical services seem ok. Edited October 29, 2022 by Glide
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