solved Save Cockpit Angles not functioning

[SharpeXB]

I assume that save cockpit angles RAlt+Num0 is supposed to save your normal zoom level in the cockpit. This seems to work but after exiting the game the “normal” zoom level returns to this crazy zoomed-in view. 
I see the snapview.lua file that’s created in my Saved Games files and the zoom value I’ve set there. I think the game just overwrites this when it’s restarted. 

Edited December 11, 2022 by SharpeXB

[BIGNEWY]

Hi 

this is unusual, snap views are working for me. 

Please check your axis zoom view is it on maybe?

[Hiob]

Hey @SharpeXB,

in the same directory in savegames is a second file named server.lua.

Check the limits in the following line:

CameraViewAngleLimits

this line contains the min and max FOV levels. If they are way off, it could lead to such problems.
Your desired default FOV should be somewhere in the middle of those values.

 

Another point is. In the main istallation folder for the game within each module there is a "views.lua" which contains basically the same that the snapview in savegames does. I think those are default values for when there is no snapview entry yet.
I had the impression once, that for some reason (can't replicate) the default view resets to those values.

Edit:

I recommend this topic regarding anything views-related:

 

Edited December 13, 2022 by Hiob

[SharpeXB]

52 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Hi 

this is unusual, snap views are working for me. 

Please check your axis zoom view is it on maybe?

Actually I’m assuming now that the game isn’t supposed to save your zoom angle since I figure people would want it different for every aircraft. I notice when you press RAlt+Num0 to save this, the game creates a SnapView.lua in your Saved Games folder. But I don’t see this angle value saved anywhere in it. Maybe this is functioning correctly after all? I have no axis assigned to zoom view. 

38 minutes ago, Hiob said:

Check the limits in the following line:

CameraViewAngleLimits

this line contains the min and max FOV levels. If they are way off, it could lead to such problems.
Your desired default FOV should be somewhere in the middle of those values.

I’ve tried editing a copy of this file in my Saved Games/View folder. But it has no effect on my zoom levels. 

Edited December 13, 2022 by SharpeXB

[Rudel_chw]

17 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

Actually I’m assuming now that the game isn’t supposed to save your zoom angle since I figure people would want it different for every aircraft.

wrong assumption, dcs saves the view within Snapviews.lua but on a separate section for each aircraft, it even has a separate section for each crew member (on multicrew aircrafts ofc).

I use it all the time to customize my views on every new aircraft that I fly, and it does work for me.

[SharpeXB]

41 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

wrong assumption, dcs saves the view within Snapviews.lua but on a separate section for each aircraft, it even has a separate section for each crew member (on multicrew aircrafts ofc).

I use it all the time to customize my views on every new aircraft that I fly, and it does work for me.

Ok I guess it’s not functioning for me then. @MadKreator it sounds like you were having the same problem. 

Edited December 13, 2022 by SharpeXB

[Hiob]

31 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

Ok I guess it’s not functioning for me then. 

It will work for you, once we figure out where the problem is.

What Rudel was trying to ell you is, that the FOV (aka zoom) IS indeed saved with the custom view in the snapview.lua and there is an individual section for each aircraft (and each seat for that matter).

It would be very unusual if it wouldn't work for you - unless there is something wrong that we haven't figured out yet.

What you could do to find the culprit is: Check the numeric value for the "crazy zoomed in view" (ctrl+pause 2x) and search for the aircraft and that value in the snapview.lua or view.lua.

Make sure that trackIR is off when trying to save a custom view (and make sure that custom views is enabled in the settings!)

@SharpeXB Can you post your server.lua and snapview.lua from your savegames folder here and let me know for which aircraft we're looking here. I can take look tonight, when I'm home.

[SharpeXB]

2 minutes ago, Hiob said:

What you could do to find the culprit is: Check the numeric value for the "crazy zoomed in view" (ctrl+pause 2x) and search for the aircraft and that value in the snapview.lua or view.lua.

I don’t see any values in the Snapview.lua that correspond to my saved setting. 

3 minutes ago, Hiob said:

Make sure that trackIR is off

TrackIR is off when setting this. 

[Hiob]

1 minute ago, SharpeXB said:

I don’t see any values in the Snapview.lua that correspond to my saved setting. 

TrackIR is off when setting this. 

For which aircraft are you trying it right now?
Can you figure out the numeric value for the zoom (ctrl+pause)?
Can you check the view.lua in the mods/aircraft folder of the main game please?

[SharpeXB]

23 minutes ago, Hiob said:

For which aircraft are you trying it right now?
Can you figure out the numeric value for the zoom (ctrl+pause)?
Can you check the view.lua in the mods/aircraft folder of the main game please?

I’ll try the A-10CII although they all behave the same way. If I go with the default, no modified files. Num0 produces a view angle of 73.0

if I adjust this to say 111.4 and press RAlt+Num0, and change the zoom, pressing Num0 returns me to 111.4. So far so good. 
Quit DCS and go look at my files. 

C:\Users\Myname\Saved Games\DCS\Config\View

there is now saved a file SnapViews.lua

Opening this reveals

SnapViews["A-10C_2"] = {
[1] = {-- player slot 1
    [1] = {--LWin + Num0 : Snap View 0
        viewAngle        = 65.000000,--FOV
        hAngle            = 0.000000,
        vAngle            = -26.000000,
        x_trans            = -0.050000,
        y_trans            = 0.000000,
        z_trans            = 0.000000,
        rollAngle        = 0.000000,
        cockpit_version    = 1,
    },
    [2] = {--LWin + Num1 : Snap View 1
        viewAngle        = 50.000000,--FOV
        hAngle            = 0.000000,
        vAngle            = -90.000000,
        x_trans            = 0.282000,
        y_trans            = -0.100000,
        z_trans            = -0.250000,
        rollAngle        = 0.000000,
        cockpit_version    = 1,
    },
    [3] = {--LWin + Num2 : Snap View 2
        viewAngle        = 31.000000,--FOV
        hAngle            = 0.000000,
        vAngle            = -90.000000,
        x_trans            = 0.494000,
        y_trans            = -0.055000,
        z_trans            = 0.250000,
        rollAngle        = 0.000000,
        cockpit_version    = 1,
    },
    [4] = {--LWin + Num3 : Snap View 3
        viewAngle        = 55.000000,--FOV
        hAngle            = 0.000000,
        vAngle            = -90.000000,
        x_trans            = 0.261000,
        y_trans            = -0.065000,
        z_trans            = 0.250000,
        rollAngle        = 0.000000,
        cockpit_version    = 1,
    },
    [5] = {--LWin + Num4 : Snap View 4
        viewAngle        = 35.000000,--FOV
        hAngle            = 0.000000,
        vAngle            = -10.000000,
        x_trans            = 0.238000,
        y_trans            = -0.281000,
        z_trans            = -0.231000,
        rollAngle        = 0.000000,
        cockpit_version    = 1,
    },
    [6] = {--LWin + Num5 : Snap View 5
        viewAngle        = 52.000000,--FOV
        hAngle            = 0.000000,
        vAngle            = -9.500000,
        x_trans            = 0.323000,
        y_trans            = -0.053000,
        z_trans            = 0.000000,
        rollAngle        = 0.000000,
        cockpit_version    = 1,
    },
    [7] = {--LWin + Num6 : Snap View 6
        viewAngle        = 35.000000,--FOV
        hAngle            = 0.000000,
        vAngle            = -10.000000,
        x_trans            = 0.238000,
        y_trans            = -0.281000,
        z_trans            = 0.231000,
        rollAngle        = 0.000000,
        cockpit_version    = 1,
    },
    [8] = {--LWin + Num7 : Snap View 7
        viewAngle        = 68.628296,--FOV
        hAngle            = 68.292320,
        vAngle            = -11.477349,
        x_trans            = 0.000000,
        y_trans            = 0.000000,
        z_trans            = 0.000000,
        rollAngle        = 0.000000,
        cockpit_version    = 1,
    },
    [9] = {--LWin + Num8 : Snap View 8
        viewAngle        = 68.628296,--FOV
        hAngle            = 0.000000,
        vAngle            = 30.227919,
        x_trans            = 0.000000,
        y_trans            = 0.000000,
        z_trans            = 0.000000,
        rollAngle        = 0.000000,
        cockpit_version    = 1,
    },
    [10] = {--LWin + Num9 : Snap View 9
        viewAngle        = 68.628296,--FOV
        hAngle            = -67.172974,
        vAngle            = -11.477349,
        x_trans            = 0.000000,
        y_trans            = 0.000000,
        z_trans            = 0.000000,
        rollAngle        = 0.000000,
        cockpit_version    = 1,
    },
    [11] = {--look at left  mirror
        viewAngle        = 73.000000,--FOV
        hAngle            = 5.888000,
        vAngle            = -2.468000,
        x_trans            = 0.238000,
        y_trans            = 0.100000,
        z_trans            = -0.114000,
        rollAngle        = -22.000000,
        cockpit_version    = 1,
    },
    [12] = {--look at right mirror
        viewAngle        = 73.000000,--FOV
        hAngle            = -5.888000,
        vAngle            = -2.468000,
        x_trans            = 0.238000,
        y_trans            = 0.100000,
        z_trans            = 0.114000,
        rollAngle        = 22.000000,
        cockpit_version    = 1,
    },
    [13] = {--default view
        viewAngle        = 111.384400,--FOV
        hAngle            = 0.000000,
        vAngle            = -19.000000,
        x_trans            = 0.150000,
        y_trans            = 0.000000,
        z_trans            = 0.000000,
        rollAngle        = 0.000000,
        cockpit_version    = 1,
    },
    [14] = {--default view - VR
        viewAngle        = 73.000000,--FOV
        hAngle            = 0.000000,
        vAngle            = -19.000000,
        x_trans            = 0.150000,
        y_trans            = 0.000000,
        z_trans            = 0.000000,
        rollAngle        = 0.000000,
        cockpit_version    = 1,
    },
},
}

 

aha there's my number

Edited December 13, 2022 by SharpeXB

[Hiob]

Just now, SharpeXB said:

I’ll try the A-10CII although they all behave the same way. If I go with the default, no modified files. Num0 produces a view angle of 73.0

if I adjust this to say 111.4 and press RAlt+Num0, and change the zoom, pressing Num0 returns me to 111.4. So far so good. 
Quit DCS and go look at my files. 

There is a setting in DCS that you need to enable in order to be able to save custom views. I don't know the exact wording from the top of my head. I will check later.

Have you checked this?

[SharpeXB]

3 minutes ago, Hiob said:

There is a setting in DCS that you need to enable in order to be able to save custom views. I don't know the exact wording from the top of my head. I will check later.

Have you checked this?

aha! it's probably this

[Hiob]

Yes!

[Rudel_chw]

1 hour ago, Hiob said:

I don't know the exact wording from the top of my head. I will check later.

 

It's this one:

 

 

Its enabled by default, but maybe the user has un-ticked it

[Hiob]

Just now, Rudel_chw said:

 

It's this one:

 

 

Its enabled by default, but maybe the user has un-ticked it

Too slow!  But yes - that it is - thank you!

[SharpeXB]

3 minutes ago, Hiob said:

Too slow!  But yes - that it is - thank you!

Solved! Thanks

[Hiob]

Just now, SharpeXB said:

Solved! Thanks

My pleasure!

[MadKreator]

4 hours ago, SharpeXB said:

Ok I guess it’s not functioning for me then. @MadKreator it sounds like you were having the same problem. 

 

Sounds about right. RAlt+ num0 would always save the adjusted pilot view/ cockpit camera position for me, including that zoom/ fov ( when using rshift+rctrl+ \ or *) to the default view numpad 5… but it never saves the general world view zoom when you first spawn in. Its always zoomed out about as far as it can go. I have the view zoom slow function on a hat switch so its not a huge deal since I do adjust it in and out quite a bit. However it would be nice if it saved it at its most used position that I set. Now, I’m just using the general view zoom slow on that hat, equivalent of just pressing \ or * without any modifiers. That function is in the General section of controls in each aircraft so it may not be something you can save. I will have to dig through the snapview lua(s)and see if I can find that default fov and play around with the values.

[Hiob]

59 minutes ago, MadKreator said:

Sounds about right. RAlt+ num0 would always save the adjusted pilot view/ cockpit camera position for me, including that zoom/ fov ( when using rshift+rctrl+ \ or *) to the default view numpad 5… but it never saves the general world view zoom when you first spawn in. Its always zoomed out about as far as it can go. I have the view zoom slow function on a hat switch so its not a huge deal since I do adjust it in and out quite a bit. However it would be nice if it saved it at its most used position that I set. Now, I’m just using the general view zoom slow on that hat, equivalent of just pressing \ or * without any modifiers. That function is in the General section of controls in each aircraft so it may not be something you can save. I will have to dig through the snapview lua(s)and see if I can find that default fov and play around with the values.

try the option.lua

perhaps the world view zoom is somewhere in there. I don't know - just an idea.

[MadKreator]

So I just now hopped in  dcs and opened  the snapviews.lua and just popped in and out of an instant action mission and manually adjusted the “default view” FOV and got it so it’s at the preferred fov when starting up. Thanks for everyone’s tips! I never thought about going in and setting it myself. I feel like the RAlt-num0 should save that though, even though it doesn’t

8 minutes ago, Hiob said:

try the option.lua

perhaps the world view zoom is somewhere in there. I don't know - just an idea.

I think world view was the wrong term for me to use lol It was in fact just the zoom in/out slow for the “default view” in the general settings tab of each aircraft

Edited December 13, 2022 by MadKreator

[JUICE-AWG]

On 12/10/2022 at 7:32 PM, SharpeXB said:

I assume that save cockpit angles RAlt+Num0 is supposed to save your normal zoom level in the cockpit. This seems to work but after exiting the game the “normal” zoom level returns to this crazy zoomed-in view. 
I see the snapview.lua file that’s created in my Saved Games files and the zoom value I’ve set there. I think the game just overwrites this when it’s restarted. 

 

THIS IS STILL HAPPENING TO ME!

@BIGNEWY Snap Views and Cockpit Angles/Zoom Normal should be separate things.

[Hiob]

28 minutes ago, JUICE-AWG said:

THIS IS STILL HAPPENING TO ME!

@BIGNEWY Snap Views and Cockpit Angles/Zoom Normal should be separate things.

@JUICE-AWG Have you seen/tried this:

 

[SharpeXB]

1 hour ago, JUICE-AWG said:

THIS IS STILL HAPPENING TO ME!

I was able to fix this by simply deleting my snapviews.lua and redoing this with Alt+Num0. There was some advice earlier about running the game as Administrator. Don’t know if that helps or not. You need to have Snap View Saving checked in the Options in order to save and to use these. 

[Flappie]

1 hour ago, SharpeXB said:

There was some advice earlier about running the game as Administrator. Don’t know if that helps or not.

I seriously doubt it. Avoid running a game as Administrator as much as you can.

[Hiob]

That would only help if the rights to access/change the files was restricted to users with admin-rights, but that‘s obviously not the case.