Hempstead Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) It looks like the new Open Beta is shipping with OpenComposite's .dll. Is this true? Ok... I had OpenXR Toolkit installed... for MSFS only. I never replaced the OpenComposite dll in DCS. But now after updating to the latest DCS OpenBeta. Suddenly, OpenXR Toolkit's prompt showed up asking me to press Ctrl-Down to bring up the menu... sure enough, Ctrl-Down, and OpenXR Toolkit's overlay menu showed up. Or perhaps there is a new OpenXR implementation for Oculus, i.e. does not use the old Oculus API, but uses the new OpenXR API directly for Oculus devices? I don't see this mentioned in the OpenBeta release notes. Edited January 25, 2023 by Hempstead 1
Gripen 4-1 Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 Noticed the same ! SYS: II Asus X670E-F || Ryzen 9800X3D || Gainward RTX4090 || 2x48 GB Kingston Fury Renegade 6000Mhz || XPG Core Reactor 850 Watt PSU || Kingston Fury 2 TB NVME SSD || WD SN850 1TB NVME SSD || 1 x 500 GB Crucial MX300 SATA SSD || 2 x HDD 3TB || INPUT: II Thrustmaster F-16 & F-18 Stick on Virpil War BRD Bases || WinWing Orion2 F-16EX Viper Throttle Combo || WinWing Orion2 F/A-18 Hornet Throttle Combo (With Finger Lift) || WinWing Takeoff Panel II MFG Crosswind Pedals w. Damper || 3 x Thrustmaster Cougar MFD || Multipurpose UFC || II Wheel Stand Pro II VR: HP Reverb G2
chichowalker Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 After last patch Sim crashes/freeze in main menu. Never let start in steamVR now but previosuly in openXR was fine and now is broken. Unable to fly last patch in VR 3
Gripen 4-1 Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, chichowalker said: After last patch Sim crashes/freeze in main menu. Never let start in steamVR now but previosuly in openXR was fine and now is broken. Unable to fly last patch in VR Same problem here; sometimes crashing in menu, somtimes when loading. But did not get into a "flight" 1 1 SYS: II Asus X670E-F || Ryzen 9800X3D || Gainward RTX4090 || 2x48 GB Kingston Fury Renegade 6000Mhz || XPG Core Reactor 850 Watt PSU || Kingston Fury 2 TB NVME SSD || WD SN850 1TB NVME SSD || 1 x 500 GB Crucial MX300 SATA SSD || 2 x HDD 3TB || INPUT: II Thrustmaster F-16 & F-18 Stick on Virpil War BRD Bases || WinWing Orion2 F-16EX Viper Throttle Combo || WinWing Orion2 F/A-18 Hornet Throttle Combo (With Finger Lift) || WinWing Takeoff Panel II MFG Crosswind Pedals w. Damper || 3 x Thrustmaster Cougar MFD || Multipurpose UFC || II Wheel Stand Pro II VR: HP Reverb G2
parxuk Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) Yep, same here. Fine prior to patch. Now DCS crashes as it gets to the first menu screen. Will run a cleanup and repair and report back. Edited January 25, 2023 by parxuk 2 Intel i7 8700K @ 5Ghz, Aorus Z370 Gaming5, 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3000MHz, Nvidia 3080Ti FE, Samsung 970 NVME, Samsung 512GB EVO SSD x 2, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Rudder Pedals, HP Reverb G2, Windows 11 x64, DCS Modules = FC3, A10c Warthog, F14 Tomcat, F18 Hornet, F16 Viper, Persian Gulf, Syria.
parxuk Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) Cleanup and repair have made no difference. Still crashing. Why do so many patches feel like a step backwards? Edited January 25, 2023 by parxuk 1 1 Intel i7 8700K @ 5Ghz, Aorus Z370 Gaming5, 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3000MHz, Nvidia 3080Ti FE, Samsung 970 NVME, Samsung 512GB EVO SSD x 2, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Rudder Pedals, HP Reverb G2, Windows 11 x64, DCS Modules = FC3, A10c Warthog, F14 Tomcat, F18 Hornet, F16 Viper, Persian Gulf, Syria.
Swamp Fox Loader Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 Same here. DCS not responding at the opening menu screen. 1 i7 12700K, RTX 4090, MSI Z690 Carbon WiFi, 32GB x 2 DDR5 5200Mhz Ram, Windows 11, DCS Stand alone, OpenXR Toolkit, Pimax Crystal, Thrustmaster Viper Stick with RealSimulator FSSB-R3 MK II Ultra Base, Winwing Orion 2 10th Anniversary with F-16EX Throttle Grip, Virpil ACE Interceptor Pedals
oz555 Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 Same here. Have done repair, disabled Open XR Toolkit, all mods. Still crashes at the main menu. Asus Z790 PLUS WIFI D4, 13700K RTX 4090 FE, M2. HP Reverb G2.
Gripen 4-1 Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 Better post here in the VR Bug thread: SYS: II Asus X670E-F || Ryzen 9800X3D || Gainward RTX4090 || 2x48 GB Kingston Fury Renegade 6000Mhz || XPG Core Reactor 850 Watt PSU || Kingston Fury 2 TB NVME SSD || WD SN850 1TB NVME SSD || 1 x 500 GB Crucial MX300 SATA SSD || 2 x HDD 3TB || INPUT: II Thrustmaster F-16 & F-18 Stick on Virpil War BRD Bases || WinWing Orion2 F-16EX Viper Throttle Combo || WinWing Orion2 F/A-18 Hornet Throttle Combo (With Finger Lift) || WinWing Takeoff Panel II MFG Crosswind Pedals w. Damper || 3 x Thrustmaster Cougar MFD || Multipurpose UFC || II Wheel Stand Pro II VR: HP Reverb G2
parxuk Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) Rightly or wrongly I have opened the OpenXR toolkit and selected the option "Disable the OpenXR toolkit" and DCS is no longer crashing. Was this the wrong thing to do though???? Spoke to soon. Actually got a bit further and began loading a mission, then crashed. FFS Edited January 25, 2023 by parxuk 1 Intel i7 8700K @ 5Ghz, Aorus Z370 Gaming5, 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3000MHz, Nvidia 3080Ti FE, Samsung 970 NVME, Samsung 512GB EVO SSD x 2, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Rudder Pedals, HP Reverb G2, Windows 11 x64, DCS Modules = FC3, A10c Warthog, F14 Tomcat, F18 Hornet, F16 Viper, Persian Gulf, Syria.
imaxx Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 Same here, freeze in Menue in VR. Works without VR. DCS open BETA and G2 with openXR, but also SteamVR freeezes i7-8700K / 32GB RAM @3000 / 1TB M.2 SSD / Asus RTX 2080 Ti OC VR- Gamer: Valve Index Flight Gear: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog / Thrustmaster TPR / 3x Thrustmaster MFD / Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Gripen 4-1 Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, parxuk said: Rightly or wrongly I have opened the OpenXR toolkit and selected the option "Disable the OpenXR toolkit" and DCS is no longer crashing. Was this the wrong thing to do though???? Jackpot! You are right! "Disable the OpenXR toolkit" also works for me! SYS: II Asus X670E-F || Ryzen 9800X3D || Gainward RTX4090 || 2x48 GB Kingston Fury Renegade 6000Mhz || XPG Core Reactor 850 Watt PSU || Kingston Fury 2 TB NVME SSD || WD SN850 1TB NVME SSD || 1 x 500 GB Crucial MX300 SATA SSD || 2 x HDD 3TB || INPUT: II Thrustmaster F-16 & F-18 Stick on Virpil War BRD Bases || WinWing Orion2 F-16EX Viper Throttle Combo || WinWing Orion2 F/A-18 Hornet Throttle Combo (With Finger Lift) || WinWing Takeoff Panel II MFG Crosswind Pedals w. Damper || 3 x Thrustmaster Cougar MFD || Multipurpose UFC || II Wheel Stand Pro II VR: HP Reverb G2
Sile Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 vor 1 Minute schrieb Gripen 4-1: Jackpot! You are right! "Disable the OpenXR toolkit" also works for me! Doesn't work for me unfortunately. Still crashing / freezing in menu.
Vanguardski Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 It works with toolkit disabled, which is neat, but the toolkit adds lots of things that make this whole experience manageable, so until some sort of fix or statement is released i'll pass.
oz555 Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 Still crashes for me with toolkit disabled. Asus Z790 PLUS WIFI D4, 13700K RTX 4090 FE, M2. HP Reverb G2.
Sile Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 Ok. seems like it freezes when motion reprojection in openXR Tools is set to Always on. not the toolkit. the tools from the store. (Bearbeitet) 1
Baldrick33 Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) Works for me with the toolkit running (v 1.2.3) but it sees DCS as a new app so all settings are reset to default. Edit - spoke to soon, froze on loading mission Edited January 25, 2023 by Baldrick33 AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat
gelbevierzehn Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, oz555 said: Still crashes for me with toolkit disabled. You have to enable the steamVR runtime in the SteamVR developer settings. 2 minutes ago, Baldrick33 said: Works for me with the toolkit running (v 1.2.3) but it sees DCS as a new app so all settings are reset to default. Thanks, will try that also...
Sile Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) For those with crashes. Disable the openXR toolkit. AND Don't set motion reprojection in Openxr-Tools for Windows Mixed Reality to "always on". (not toolkit - the app from the store) Set it to "off" or "auto". Edited January 25, 2023 by Sile 1 2
some1 Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 You can also force SteamVR back for troubleshooting. Start SteamVR->settings->Developer->click "set steamVR as OpenXR runtime" and restart the game. 2 1 Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
Gadreel Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Sile said: Ok. seems like it freezes when motion reprojection in openXR Tools is set to Always on. not the toolkit. the tools from the store. (Bearbeitet) That helped!!! I had Motion reprojection set to "always on" in Open-XR-Tools (the windows store app) and used OpennXR Toolkit to switch it on and off. Switching motion reprojection to "off" in OpenXR-Tool seems to solve the problem. Game did not crsh on startup and I could start a Mission. I have a Reverb G2 and use OpenXR and OpenXR-Toolkit. Edited January 25, 2023 by Gadreel
Vanguardski Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) Ill recap what I did to get it somehow running for now: -In toolkit, enable ONLY "DCS WORLD". Disable Opencomposite_DCS. -Enable safe mode -Launch DCS and using the default toolkit hotkeys find the "reset to defaults" option and click it -Close game, disable safe mode, launch. So far so good for me. I tested the toolkits functionality with some glass tints and smoothing and so far, it works. Hope it helps! Edited January 25, 2023 by Vanguardski
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