Mirage F1AZ

[VictorDavion]

I’m assuming they left out the saaf mirage F1AZ because it is unique only to the SAAF and I believe most of the systems are still classified making it difficult to include correct? I know the CZ is basically the same as the CE. Would be nice to have the AZ. 

[Snacko 2-1]

They chose the a/c they did because they are a Spanish company and have the most access to the Spanish airframes and pilots.  

 

They have not ruled out other variants if they can get the resources to make them. I believe an EQ-6 is the next most likely 

[VictorDavion]

I get that they're Spanish and will do those first. The AZ apparently has tons of info widely available and would be easy for them to do though. Also seems to be one of the most requested variants.  

[Top Jockey]

Well, I'll admit stuff like the F1AZ's Helmet Mounted Sight would increase my attention on that bird.

But as I've read on another thread here already, currently the developer isn't planning on making the AZ variant ...

 

edit

... and then, I mixed AZ and CZ variants regarding the HMS.

Edited February 14, 2023 by Top Jockey

[Bananabrai]

On 2/8/2023 at 9:49 PM, Snacko 2-1 said:

I believe an EQ-6 is the next most likely

I thought it was still very unlikely up to lately, but this would awesome.

Did something change? Is there more docs available now?
I think there is an EQ-5 or -6 somewhere in France, maybe that's reason.

Brems already told me a 100 times but I keep forgetting this stuff.

Edited February 14, 2023 by Bananabrai

[Snacko 2-1]

On 2/14/2023 at 9:58 AM, Bananabrai said:

I thought it was still very unlikely up to lately, but this would awesome.

Did something change? Is there more docs available now?
I think there is an EQ-5 or -6 somewhere in France, maybe that's reason.

Brems already told me a 100 times but I keep forgetting this stuff.

 

Yes, there is one in France that they hunted they will look into after the completion of the M. 

[Harlikwin]

2 hours ago, Snacko 2-1 said:

Yes, there is one in France that they hunted they will look into after the completion of the M. 

Thats awesome news, have not heard that.

[Loukuins]

On 2/19/2023 at 4:24 AM, Snacko 2-1 said:

Yes, there is one in France that they hunted they will look into after the completion of the M. 

Really ?! That's great news !

[Stratos]

If thats ture it will be amazing!

[Bremspropeller]

This is the EQ in France:

https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1659703

I had seen a couple of cockpit shots somewhere (some instruments / equipment had been missing there).

Edit: Found it.

http://les-heros-de-bagdad.over-blog.com/2018/03/le-mirage-f1-eq-en-image.html

 

The site is very interesting. If you can read some French, you might want to consider getting the books.

 

 

Edited February 23, 2023 by Bremspropeller

[Delta-canard]

Yup, I only read the first one but it's definitely interesting, I'll try to get the second one. Shame the author seemingly didn't have access to professional editing, it's more less self published. The subject matter deserves better treatment.  Also, the first book ends with the end of he Iran-Iraq war, with hindsight that feels strange... I'd like to know if the people I just read about made it through Desert Storm and the rest.  Anyway, it's great so see the Iraquis as real and competent people, not targets.

Back to the plane, the EQ6 would definitely be great. The F1 could act as a stand-in for the Étendard and the Jaguar

[JDen]

On 2/8/2023 at 3:49 PM, Snacko 2-1 said:

They have not ruled out other variants if they can get the resources to make them. I believe an EQ-6 is the next most likely 

For sure. The EQ-6 would be very well received and popular, even if they added it as a separate module. I would absolutely not mind spending an extra $15 (only if you already have the F1 module of course) to get the F1EQ-6, as it’s an extremely advanced model with a lot of its avionics being very different to those in the Spanish F1s. The radar is different, HUD is different, RWR is different, cockpit is very different, various different weapons, targeting pod, etc.

With all of the added capabilities of the EQ, especially the EQ-6, I would happily pay more for it.

With the 580gal drop tank and more sophisticated weapons, the EQ-6 would be tremendously powerful in a Cold War setting. The more advanced Remora and Sycomor ECM and dispenser pods, Exocet missiles, better radar, better RWR etc., would make it very dangerous! The S530F is already a great missile, but with enhanced SA and HUD, it would be absolutely lethal against other CW jets.

The best part? There’s an F1EQ-6 on display in a French museum, so they wouldn’t have to go to Iran to model it!

On 2/23/2023 at 5:37 AM, Bremspropeller said:

This is the EQ in France:

https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1659703

I had seen a couple of cockpit shots somewhere (some instruments / equipment had been missing there).

Edit: Found it.

http://les-heros-de-bagdad.over-blog.com/2018/03/le-mirage-f1-eq-en-image.html

 

The site is very interesting. If you can read some French, you might want to consider getting the books.

 

 

 

There‘s an F1EQ-6 in the Aquitaine Air Conservatory as well! Here’s a photo of the less munted cockpit belonging to the Aquitaine EQ-6:

 

Edited October 2, 2023 by JDen

[JDen]

On 2/23/2023 at 5:37 AM, Bremspropeller said:

This is the EQ in France:

https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1659703

I had seen a couple of cockpit shots somewhere (some instruments / equipment had been missing there).

Edit: Found it.

http://les-heros-de-bagdad.over-blog.com/2018/03/le-mirage-f1-eq-en-image.html

 

The site is very interesting. If you can read some French, you might want to consider getting the books.

 

 

 

Also, in that link of the EQ’s cockpit, that’s from a BQ, so I’m not sure how similar it is to the EQ-6. It’s probably more akin to the EQ-2, maybe the EQ-4.

[Loukuins]

1 hour ago, JDen said:

Also, in that link of the EQ’s cockpit, that’s from a BQ, so I’m not sure how similar it is to the EQ-6. It’s probably more akin to the EQ-2, maybe the EQ-4.

No it's not a EQ-2 or EQ-4, it would have a doppler PCN and it doesn't, it has the PCN 47, also the RWR is from EQ-6 only EQ-6 got Sherlock in the 80s, also non EU IFF and the TV was only on EQ-5 and 6

[JDen]

4 hours ago, Loukuins said:

No it's not a EQ-2 or EQ-4

“…more akin to…” I said. I didn’t say it IS an EQ-2 or -4. It’s a BQ. And I was referring to the link to the pictures of the very munted cockpit, not the intact one I posted.

The one I posted is the EQ-6 from Aquitaine. 

Edited October 2, 2023 by JDen

[Bremspropeller]

One interesting, subtle feature of the AZ and CZ is the bi-conical air-intake cone, which is unique to the SAAF variants.

It resulted in a better pressure-recovery at high Mach and hence better performance.

 

F1CR with the standard inlet cone.

Edited October 3, 2023 by Bremspropeller

[snocc_]

F1AZ and/or EQ-5/6 would be great for DCS, hopefully aerges can continue making F1 variants and packs after our main package is done so we can get closer to the full F1 experience

[WinterH]

I'd pay for another package with EQ5 or 6, as well as one of A types.

[JDen]

5 hours ago, snocc_ said:

F1AZ and/or EQ-5/6 would be great for DCS, hopefully aerges can continue making F1 variants and packs after our main package is done so we can get closer to the full F1 experience

Absolutely! The EQ-6 especially, as there’s one in a French museum, and had the superior Sherlock RWR.

Would you mind going to one of my threads and adding to the conversation there? It’s called “F1EQ Information Community Project”, and I wanted for it to be the go-to place for the DCS: Mirage F1 fans to discuss the F1EQ and show Aerges how many people care about and would like for an F1EQ to come to DCS.

All pictures, documents, or otherwise interesting information is welcomed! 

Edited October 4, 2023 by JDen

[JDen]

5 hours ago, WinterH said:

I'd pay for another package with EQ5 or 6, as well as one of A types.

See above! Would you mind going to my F1EQ thread and adding to the conversation over there? All documents, pictures (real or DCS) of the F1EQ, or otherwise interesting information and conversation is welcome!

 

Edited October 4, 2023 by JDen

[Bremspropeller]

EQ6, AZ and CR/CT would be awesome.

[JDen]

1 hour ago, Bremspropeller said:

EQ6, AZ and CR/CT would be awesome.

EQ-6, AZ, and CT is the dream trio for me! An F1CZ with the head-mounted sight would be cool too. First fighter with a head-mounted sight!

[denissoliveira]

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3332447/
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[davewhite]

The A variant of the F1 was not unique to the SAAF as it was also exported to Libya. Between 1978 & 79 a total of 16 were delivered to Libya as the F1AD model.

[denissoliveira]

21 hours ago, davewhite said:

The A variant of the F1 was not unique to the SAAF as it was also exported to Libya. Between 1978 & 79 a total of 16 were delivered to Libya as the F1AD model.