Military Assets for DCS by Currenthill

[CarbonFox]

Talking on air defenses to consider down the line. The Buk M2/M2E (SA-17 'Grizzly) and Buk M3 (SA-27 'Gollum').

[Miki011]

I noticed Pantsir sam doesn't work anymore. All missiles explode just after launch.

[Gogi12]

42 minutes ago, CarbonFox said:

Talking on air defenses to consider down the line. The Buk M2/M2E (SA-17 'Grizzly) and Buk M3 (SA-27 'Gollum').

This is needed in the game. Also Aspide SAM was destroyed today in Ukraine, it would be also good addition in the DCS. Possibly also Iranian RAAD SAM based on BUK.

Edited July 23, 2023 by Gogi12

[currenthill]

5 hours ago, Roanpri said:

Hey CH, thanks for all your amazing mods!  will we ever get an independent SM-3 Model with correct staging etc? also will we ever get a THAAD system?

Thanks! Well, I can only do so much with the tools DCS provides. But I will probably implement a SM-3 model in the future.

52 minutes ago, CarbonFox said:

Talking on air defenses to consider down the line. The Buk M2/M2E (SA-17 'Grizzly) and Buk M3 (SA-27 'Gollum').

I'm planning to make the M3.

45 minutes ago, Miki011 said:

I noticed Pantsir sam doesn't work anymore. All missiles explode just after launch.

I just tried them with no issues.

10 minutes ago, Gogi12 said:

This is needed in the game. Also Aspide SAM was destroyed today in Ukraine, it would be also good addition in the DCS. Possibly also Iranian RAAD SAM based on BUK.

 

Thanks for the suggestions.

[Miki011]

1 hour ago, currenthill said:

Thanks! Well, I can only do so much with the tools DCS provides. But I will probably implement a SM-3 model in the future.

I'm planning to make the M3.

I just tried them with no issues.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Any chance to know how could that happen? What i meant is it works fine as ai but when i try to use it it locks fine but when i launch it maybe works for a little bit and then explodes like it lost lock which didn't happen. Weirdly it also happens with s300 pack Pantsir sm.

[bennyboy9800]

5 hours ago, CarbonFox said:

Talking on air defenses to consider down the line. The Buk M2/M2E (SA-17 'Grizzly) and Buk M3 (SA-27 'Gollum').

The Buk M1-2 with the 9M317 is available with the HighDigitSam mod: 

 

[Gradjevinac]

9 hours ago, Miki011 said:

Any chance to know how could that happen? What i meant is it works fine as ai but when i try to use it it locks fine but when i launch it maybe works for a little bit and then explodes like it lost lock which didn't happen. Weirdly it also happens with s300 pack Pantsir sm.

All mods are just AI mods. It's not intended to be used in Combined Arms driven by players. So all mods Pantsir, Tor and others work great when you let AI control them.

[currenthill]

I've been busy updating the Swedish military assets, all 37 of them. I'm almost done and will begin releasing the updated versions shortly. 

[Abburo]

Hope this Swedish update will not impact the Mantis configuration which requires the SMA suffix ... ?

[currenthill]

14 minutes ago, Abburo said:

Hope this Swedish update will not impact the Mantis configuration which requires the SMA suffix ... ?

I haven't changed any GT.Name id's, so should be fine. 

[Miki011]

6 hours ago, Gradjevinac said:

All mods are just AI mods. It's not intended to be used in Combined Arms driven by players. So all mods Pantsir, Tor and others work great when you let AI control them.

Ok but in the past you could use all 3 versions of Pantsir just like sa15/19 combined arms. Well you can still do it but missiles explode on launch it's not like ch sa15 mod where you can only drive them.

[currenthill]

18 minutes ago, Miki011 said:

Ok but in the past you could use all 3 versions of Pantsir just like sa15/19 combined arms. Well you can still do it but missiles explode on launch it's not like ch sa15 mod where you can only drive them.

In regards to controlling missiles in my assets. I have explained this many times in the forum thread (I will add an entry in the FAQ).

It's not that I don't know how to add the Combined Arms features of radars and missile control. The issue is that if you use them, all advanced features are removed. You basically make all SAMs the same. 

I have yet to find a way to implement different seeker head types or the correct number of missile channels when using the CA control feature. And I primarily make my assets for AI use so I will always prioritize the real life characteristics before human control. If I can implement human control without sacrificing real life characteristics and features - I will do it. That's why most guns are human controllable.

[pepin1234]

@currenthill HighDigitsSams mod package have a TR mastil radar for Sa-20A that not give Launch warnings to any RWR, but lock warning only (the right way) and I believe work only with that particular units when is in the SAM group. Probably that unit Lua can help you for some realistic SAM behavior.

the other option should be implemented and ED keep ignoring that is the option to launch a SAM missile without target lock and get a lock when missile is on the air. 
 

by the way I can’t play in first person with the Pantsir and Tor of CH package 

@currenthill if you try make a hybrid of Tunguska and radar Guided missiles I’m pretty sure you can get what real simulation need for SAMs

Edited July 24, 2023 by pepin1234

[currenthill]

11 minutes ago, pepin1234 said:

@currenthill HighDigitsSams mod package have a TR mastil radar for Sa-20A that not give Launch warnings to any RWR, but lock warning only (the right way) and I believe work only with that particular units when is in the SAM group. Probably that unit Lua can help you for some realistic SAM behavior.

the other option should be implemented and ED keep ignoring that is the option to launch a SAM missile without target lock and get a lock when missile is on the air. 
 

by the way I can’t play in first person with the Pantsir and Tor of CH package 

@currenthill if you try make a hybrid of Tunguska and radar Guided missiles I’m pretty sure you can get what real simulation need for SAMs

 

I think you misunderstood. It's not that I don't understand the different parameters to configure radars or weapons. You can't just use the term "realistic SAM behavior", it's too generic. Most of the HDS SAMs are TVM based (hence the behavior you mentioned), which is a lot different from beam riding, SACLOS, IR, SARH or ARH based systems. All of these types and combinations are realistic in their own way. But I wouldn't say no to have ED implement more parameters and features, for example LOAL. Or a combination of different seekers which is what almost all new weapons have.

[ruddy122]

Curious, creating Anti-Ship missions.  How many Harpoons or GBU-10/24 will sink the new Type 22 boat?

[Oban]

1 hour ago, ruddy122 said:

Curious, creating Anti-Ship missions.  How many Harpoons or GBU-10/24 will sink the new Type 22 boat?

Good lucking getting through the layered defences

[bennyboy9800]

14 minutes ago, Oban said:

Good lucking getting through the layered defences

*Has only 1 layer of mechanically unreliable CIWS* 

[bennyboy9800]

8 hours ago, ruddy122 said:

Curious, creating Anti-Ship missions.  How many Harpoons or GBU-10/24 will sink the new Type 22 boat?

2-3 Harpoons should destroy it without much difficulty, since the CIWS isn't very good. 1 GBU10/24 should be enough to knock it out as well, since the CIWS can't even target them. 

Edited July 25, 2023 by bennyboy9800

[ruddy122]

Thanks that was what I was Looking for

[Oban]

44 minutes ago, bennyboy9800 said:

*Has only 1 layer of mechanically unreliable CIWS* 

Ah the Chinese Type 22, yeah I was thinking the Type 22 frigate for some reason my bad !!

[DeaFenZiV]

Is there a guide on how to use the Shahed and scripting AI to use naval vessels? I've noticed in Ship v Ship the AI don't use any SM's to target naval vessels, they only use harpoons and the gun.

[currenthill]

Swedish Military Assets update

The Swedish military assets needed an update. I have made some standardization changes like changed to the [CH] prefix, I've also added tags to easier find assets in the Mission Editor. I fixed a lot of smaller issues and changed weapons performance. I've also changed the textures for some of the assets. 

The only assets missing are the Swedish Infantry which I'm still working on. If you remember they kept crashing DCS at random. I believe I have found the issue with the DCS crashing, but it also meant I have to redo most animations, which is a pain because I don't know of a way to use IK limb solvers with Max and DCS export, so I have to animate every part and its motion individually. 

I still have some work to do with the one-pager overviews on the site, for the updated Swedish assets. But all the release notes are there and the download links should work. I also decided to break up the large Swedish Military Asset pack, because a lot of people were having download issues because of its size. I now have standardized on the smaller individual asset downloads, like all the my other assets. I only pack them together when there are good reasons, like a complete SAM system (LvS 103, MIM-104 or S-350), different version of the same asset (Tor and Pantsir) or mobile and stationary versions of the same asset (RBS 70 and RBS 70 on HX truck).

Don't forget to remove the old Swedish Military Asset pack before using this update - you also need to remove the old RBS 57 asset since it is now integrated in the Swedish Infantry asset.

Ag 90 AMR (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Changed Ag 90 display name

 Artillerisystem 08 SPG (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added M982 Excalibur guided shell
• Added tag
• Changed Artillerisystem 08 engine sound
• Changed SGR 77 to SGR 77B basebleed for 40 km range
• Changed display name
• Changed minimum and maximum launch range
• Fixed wheels dirt and dust
• Fixed window texture issue

  Bv 410 ATV (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added tag
• Changed display name
• Changed engine sound
• Fixed wheels dirt and dust

   Grkpbv 90 SPM (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added tag
• Changed display name
• Changed engine sound
• Changed textures
• Fixed wheels dirt and dust

 

   Hkp 15B LUH (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Changed display name
• Fixed missing visible damage

 

   Lvkv 9040B SPAAG (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added tag
• Changed PFHE performance characteristics
• Changed display name
• Changed textures
• Fixed wheels dirt and dust
• Removed reloads for APDSFS-T and HE-T
• Removed tracer for PFHE

 

   LvS 103 SAM (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added minimum launch range
• Added tag
• Changed Lavett 103 Rb 103B from 16 to 12 tubes
• Changed PM 103 STR ECM burn through rate
• Changed PM 103 STR range
• Changed Rb 103A performance
• Changed Rb 103B performance
• Changed display name
• Changed engine sound
• Fixed wheels dirt and dust

 

   RBS 15KA LBASM (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added minimum launch range
• Added tag
• Changed display name
• Changed engine sound
• Changed from requiring AWACS to UndE 23 STR instead
• Changed missile sound
• Changed textures
• Fixed wheels dirt and dust

 

   RBS 58 ATGM (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added damage model to RBS 58 missile
• Added tag
• Changed display name
• Changed reload time

 

   RBS 70 VSHORAD (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added minimum launch range
• Added tag
• Changed display name
• Changed engine sound
• Fixed Bolide external view
• Fixed wheels dirt and dust

 

   RBS 90 VSHORAD (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added minimum launch range
• Added tag
• Changed ECM burn through range
• Changed display name
• Changed engine sound
• Fixed Bolide external view
• Fixed wheels dirt and dust

 

   RBS 98 SHORAD (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added minimum launch range
• Added tag
• Changed ECM burn through range
• Changed IRIS-T reflection size
• Changed display name
• Changed minimum launch range
• Fixed IRIS-T external view

 

   Strb 90 FAC (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added animated soldiers
• Added capability to go in rivers
• Added minimum launch range
• Added tag
• Changed Ksp 18 sound
• Changed display name

 

   Strf 9040B IFV (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added tag
• Changed PFHE performance characteristics
• Changed display name
• Changed engine sound
• Changed textures
• Fixed wheels dirt and dust
• Removed tracer for PFHE

 

   Strv 103 MBT (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added tag
• Changed display name
• Fixed wheels dirt and dust

 

   Strv 121 MBT (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added tag
• Changed display name
• Changed engine sound

 

   Strv 122 MBT (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added tag
• Changed display name
• Changed engine sound

 

   Strv 2000 MBT (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added EOS rear and sides
• Added tag
• Changed display name
• Changed engine sound
• Changed textures
• Fixed wheels dirt and dust

 

   UndE 23 STR (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added tag
• Changed display name
• Changed radar minimum reflection performance
• Changed radar to work with RBS 15KA LBASM
• Fixed wheels dirt and dust

 

   Visby Class Corvette (Sweden) version 2.1.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added animated sailors
• Added minimum launch range
• Added tag
• Changed display name
• Fixed exhaust placement on CAMM
• Fixed missing fence net
• Fixed too accurate CAMM performance
• Removed Ksp 58 stations

 

    Volvo 740 IFV (Sweden) version 1.2.0 released!
Changelog Version 1.2.0

• Added tag
• Changed display name
• Fixed wheels dirt and dust

 

 

 

Edited July 27, 2023 by currenthill

[kolpakov_79]

Thank you for breaking the swedish compilation. Very much looking forward to this.

[Ironghost]

Currenthill I used the B-21 stealth against Russian ships with AGM-158C LRASM missiles but they crash into buildings or trees, do I have to attack by sea to not have this problem?

Edited July 25, 2023 by Ironghost

[currenthill]

17 minutes ago, Ironghost said:

Currenthill I used the B-21 stealth against Russian ships with AGM-158C LRASM missiles but they crash into buildings or trees, do I have to attack by sea to not have this problem?

 

 

Yep, the LRASM are antiship missiles, and not terrain following. Use the AGM-158B for ground targets, they are terrain following.