Normandy 2.0 FAQ **Updated**

[KoN]

3 hours ago, Hiob said:

It is, but I have one serious issue with it.

When you look into the sun, you see the bright sight of the trees, and when you look away from the sun, you see the dark side of the trees. Shouldn’t it be the other way round?

I can’t unsee it and it gives me the creeps. 

 

Fly backwards or upside down. That might fix it

[Hiob]

15 minutes ago, KoN said:

Fly backwards or upside down. That might fix it

Only when I touch my nose with my elbow….

[Peregrino]

I would like to know, if this sentence in the FAQ, is still working "For a limited time, players that own DCS: Normandy 1944 or DCS: The Channel are eligible to purchase or upgrade to DCS: Normandy 2.0 for a discounted rate".

Almost surely I'm going to spend some money in June in DCS WW2 (a pair of planes, Normandy 2.0, WW2 Assets and a pair of Campaigns for these planes). But the campaings of the planes i'd like to buy (P47 and Mosquito) both need The Channel Map. If that point of the FAQ that i quoted before, were still working then, it will be easier for me.

Thanks in advance!

[Art-J]

11 hours ago, Johnny Dioxin said:

I just spotted yesterday, that the Mossie requires the Channel map for some training missions as well - so it also needs it for the campaign?

That really sux. I bought Normandy - both versions, but not Channel for various reasons (such as not seeing the point of buying two very similar areas and seeing lots of negativity around the Channel map when it was released). I suppose the disappointment is negated somewhat by the fact that I bought the Mossie at sale price, but still - last WWII module for me, and I'll triple check the terrains used in modules released in future - which also means no pre-release or EA purchasing, as the training and campaigns are rarely available at that point in a module's cycle anyway.

 

There's only one Mosquito training mission for Channel map and it's pretty much a copy of Caucasus one (rockets deployment) down to the same types of targets so don't worry, you're not missing anything really.

As for the campaign, I don't quite follow your logic. Normandy 2 didn't exist when Reflected created his Mossie campaign, plus, with both maps not overlapping, there are locations and targets on the Channel which are not present on N2, so he probably would've chosen Channel anyway. It's just a different map, EA has nothing to do with it.

Still, why not giving the Channel a try with 2-weeks free trial? True, It's a tiny map indeed, but vastly superior to Normandy in visual department in my opinion, more accurate and arguably better performing of the two. Maybe not worth getting for the full price, but with a discount? I'd say it is. Got it finally during a sale last year and I actually prefer it to N2. I believe there are still more Reflected's campaigns for Channel than for N2 (for the time being at least) and that in itself makes if worth getting during one of the promo sales if price drop is right.

[Art-J]

I just fail to see why you're bringing it all up in Ugra Media section of the forum, a company which has nothing to do with missions or campaigns creation. Also, are you referring to strictly "training" missions (as per DCS nomenclature), or "training", "instant" and single ones together? I'm talking about former only.

Since we're off-topic anyway, I get your point about insufficient number of training missions in EA phase (albeit that's usually caused by lack of certain system implemented initially, for example no rockets at P-47 release), but the rest doesn't seem to apply. Training missions for all aircraft in DCS ecosystem are by default provided primarily for stock Caucasus map, so unless you unistalled it, they'll be there allright. RAZBAM putting some extra SA map training missions on top is and will most likely remain an exception, as it's the only 3rd party out there which makes both aircraft and maps. That aforementioned Mossie rocket mission for Channel, which doesn't teach anything new compared to Caucasus one, is an exception as well, you don't need it or the map, as, frankly, it's redundant.

If no Caucasus  training missions for aircraft were provided at all, then yes that would be a problem, but has it ever happened in DCS? I, just like you, only own a couple of modules I'm interested in and haven't followed others that closely. Still, it's an issue not related to map creators themselves, as missions are not their business anyway.

You're here long enough to know that campaigns being released together with new aircraft or a map have been a thing of the past for years now, let alone free ones. "Instant" and single missions are falling out of favour as well. Pity, but that's the way it is. That applies to both ED and 3rd party modules. Maps get released as empty sandboxes nowadays and it's up to community or campaign creators to make some content for them, payware or free. Fortunately, the likes of Reflected and Baltic Dragon take care of the payware part with good products  relatively quickly.

I'm not forcing you to buy Channel map, I'm just saying there's more content for it available ('cause it's older) for the time being and if there's not enough content available for N2, that's beacuse there's simply not enough interest in it, or it's considered not fleshed-out enough yet (Reflected told us he waits for it to mature more before making more campaigns for it). So, you'll have to wait for community to fill the gaps or create some missions for it yourself. 

In either case I agree that checking out what SP content is available for a plane or a map before purchase is a valid tactic, just don't expect much.

Edited May 15, 2024 by Art-J

[Peregrino]

Offtopic apart, I still would like to know, if this sentence in the FAQ, is still working today "For a limited time, players that own DCS: Normandy 1944 or DCS: The Channel are eligible to purchase or upgrade to DCS: Normandy 2.0 for a discounted rate". Even for new buyers, of The Channel Map. Thanks!

 

[Peregrino]

En 15/5/2024 a las 12:08, Peregrino dijo:

Offtopic apart, I still would like to know, if this sentence in the FAQ, is still working today "For a limited time, players that own DCS: Normandy 1944 or DCS: The Channel are eligible to purchase or upgrade to DCS: Normandy 2.0 for a discounted rate". Even for new buyers, of The Channel Map. Thanks!

 

Fortunately, it still works!

[CRUD]

Please add the Moulin Rouge.  Mercy Buckets

[Jokkr]

OK, all of a sudden Normandy 2.0 is not working. It doesn't even show in the list of available terrain maps in mission nor campaigns'

Path. Owned both Channel map and Normandy 1.0. Upgraded to 2.0 by the special offer. 

All DLC's Normandy terrains show up as owned in steam library.

They did work, but quit during a recent upgrade, timing uncertain as I've been playing Phantom multiplayer for past few months

Tried refreshing the game with file refresh.

any Suggestions

 

Note I bought all terrains from Steam. They do not show up using license check on this site

 

jokkr

Edited December 26, 2024 by Jokkr
clarify

[paco2002]

5 hours ago, Jokkr said:

OK, all of a sudden Normandy 2.0 is not working. It doesn't even show in the list of available terrain maps in mission nor campaigns'

Path. Owned both Channel map and Normandy 1.0. Upgraded to 2.0 by the special offer. 

All DLC's Normandy terrains show up as owned in steam library.

They did work, but quit during a recent upgrade, timing uncertain as I've been playing Phantom multiplayer for past few months

Tried refreshing the game with file refresh.

any Suggestions

 

Note I bought all terrains from Steam. They do not show up using license check on this site

 

jokkr

Please contact support, that is weird