DimSim Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) DCS planes no longer reset the correct cockpit FOV when pressing View 'Zoom Normal' Before: (Repro steps and previous behavior) 1) Start in cockpit, observe zoom level typically 100-100deg 2) Press Reset Zoom button, observe zoom now the normal default, typically 75-90deg Now: (Repro steps and current behavior) 1) Start in cockpit, observe zoom level typically 100-100deg 2) Press Zoom Normal button, observe zoom now the normal default, no change Work around: 3) Press LWin + num0 to view Snap1 view (Any snap view will work) 4) Press Zoom Normal button observe zoom now shows the correct default zoom This is not new to v2.9 specific, happened in recent v2.8 for some time. I don't know how long since I've been away from DCS for a while. Now with v2.9 you can press ESC -> Options -> System and read 'Current field of view'. Compare that with C:\Users\[name]\Saved Games\DCS\Config\View\SnapViews.lua And the Default slot for the aircraft you are flying. Only after the 'work around' will you see the correct value. Deleting the SnapViews.lua does not change behavior. Issue does not appear to relate to any custom views. DCS v2.9.0.460801 Edited October 20, 2023 by DimSim Titling as duplicate but not deleting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 This bug started on August Openbeta update, and its already reported: hopefully it will be fixed soon 1 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimSim Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Thanks @Rudel_chw I did a couple of forum searches first but didn't find that post. I did expect it should be reported as it's a big annoyance and I'm sure many people play more often than I. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 21, 2023 ED Team Share Posted October 21, 2023 threads merged 1 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bingbean Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I am really surprised how low number of players use the "Zoom normal" command and this bug don't have high priority to be fixed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, bingbean said: I am really surprised how low number of players use the "Zoom normal" command and this bug don't have high priority to be fixed. That's probably because the DCS User manual does not explain neither the Snap-View Use, nor the View Zoom facility, so most users learn about this only by word of mouth with fellow players. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac5 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Very disappointing. The issue is still present in the HUGE update DCS 2.9.0.46801. 2 Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3000 Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Monitor ASUS PA 329 32" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 4 TB Windows 10 - 64 V. 2004 CH Pro combatstick, throttle and pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havner Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 On 8/17/2023 at 12:03 AM, bwRavencl said: Very annoying bug... I hope this gets hot-fixed asap... I found the following workaround: Press 'Right Ctrl + NUM 0' twice This doesn't work for me in 2.9. Num Enter doesn't restore proper FOV afterwards. It seems that a value around 20 degrees is added to the set one. What does work is switching seats in multi seat aircrafts. I don't have a workaround for single seaters though. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, Havner said: This doesn't work for me in 2.9 Strange, works on my dcs rig For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havner Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said: Strange, works on my dcs rig Tested in F-16. I get the effect of the command (persistent HUD close up on first press, back to normal on second), so the command gets triggered. But NumEnter does not revert back to proper FOV afterwards. I'll check on more modules later on. EDIT: Heh, indeed. I've tried ~5 more modules and it worked on every single one. But doesn't on F-16. Go figure Edited October 23, 2023 by Havner 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac5 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Problem still present after the 2.9 hotfix 2.9.0.47168 Open Beta! Very disappointing.... In my end the workaround works with all the planes, including the F-16. On some planes, especially the A-10 II, no matter what mission, the view goes AUTOMATICALLY* to the default cockpit zoom / view. No need for pushing buttons or ctrl + num0 2x workarounds, *AS BY THE WAY IT SHOULD BE... This proves that something like this is "possible"... Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3000 Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Monitor ASUS PA 329 32" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 4 TB Windows 10 - 64 V. 2004 CH Pro combatstick, throttle and pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclaimer Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Can we get this basic bug fixed please! I have the EXACT same problem as everyone else on here. Occurs on 1920x1080 native (it occurs on all resolutions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiob Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Yeah, still problems. Somehow the game doesn't read the values from the snapview.lua correctly. Or in my case, it seems that it adds a fix value to the FOV from the snapview.lua. I'd love to have that fixed, too. "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiden Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Hello good! The truth is that this bug is quite strange. I have had it since the previous update to 2.9 but since this one, it has been solved in all modules. Before it didn't work in any of them. I came to think that it could be due to a W11 update, but as I say, since 2.9 it has been solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiob Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Raiden said: since 2.9 it has been solved. not here. "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Raiden said: since 2.9 it has been solved. I still have the bug on the F-15E, but on the Viggen it works fine. Really a strange bug. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiob Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said: I still have the bug on the F-15E, but on the Viggen it works fine. Really a strange bug. I haven't checked for all my modules, but for those that I use regulary currently, the in-game FOV is always ~20 greater than what I set in the snapview.lua (which I manipulate manually most of the time). "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac5 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Raiden said: Hello good! The truth is that this bug is quite strange. I have had it since the previous update to 2.9 but since this one, it has been solved in all modules. Before it didn't work in any of them. I came to think that it could be due to a W11 update, but as I say, since 2.9 it has been solved. Not here.... Problem still very much present after the 2.9 hotfix 2.9.0.47168 Open Beta. Windows 10. Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair DDR4-3000 Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Monitor ASUS - Oled PG42UQ 41.5" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 4 TB Windows 10 - 64 CH Pro combatstick, throttle and pedals Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3000 Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Monitor ASUS PA 329 32" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 4 TB Windows 10 - 64 V. 2004 CH Pro combatstick, throttle and pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boerdi Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Bug still present with current OB 2.9.0.47168 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMBluecher Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Bug still present with 16 November OB patch. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimSim Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 @BIGNEWYAny chance you could check that this reported bug has not been forgotten? Or perhaps report on its current status? Thankfully there is a work around, but it is a nuisance for many players and seems like it should not be a big deal to fix. (I'm referring to the 'Zoom Normal' not have expected effect until one of the work around views is instigated first. There may be other separate issues.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMBluecher Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 20 hours ago, DimSim said: @BIGNEWYAny chance you could check that this reported bug has not been forgotten? Or perhaps report on its current status? Thankfully there is a work around, but it is a nuisance for many players and seems like it should not be a big deal to fix. (I'm referring to the 'Zoom Normal' not have expected effect until one of the work around views is instigated first. There may be other separate issues.) To add to this, I cannot reset my default view angles unless I'm in an aircraft that has multiple seats--I can do it only by swapping from one seat to another and then back to the original seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, FMBluecher said: To add to this, I cannot reset my default view angles unless I'm in an aircraft that has multiple seats--I can do it only by swapping from one seat to another and then back to the original seat. I do it on a single-seater like the Viggen: Press Right Ctrl + Num 0, twice, and then NumPad Enter to get Zoom to normal. 1 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMBluecher Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 20 hours ago, Rudel_chw said: I do it on a single-seater like the Viggen: Press Right Ctrl + Num 0, twice, and then NumPad Enter to get Zoom to normal. Thanks--and sorry, I didn't write what I meant very clearly! Yes, I've been using that workaround, and that does reset the view to normal zoom. The issue is that I can't change what my default view is even after using that workaround (normally bound to RAlt+Num0). That's the thing that only works when I switch to a different seat and back again (if there's one available to switch to). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMBluecher Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 On 11/19/2023 at 11:25 AM, FMBluecher said: Thanks--and sorry, I didn't write what I meant very clearly! Yes, I've been using that workaround, and that does reset the view to normal zoom. The issue is that I can't change what my default view is even after using that workaround (normally bound to RAlt+Num0). That's the thing that only works when I switch to a different seat and back again (if there's one available to switch to). As of now, both issues are fixed, at least for me! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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