Hawker Tempest/Typhoon

[zcrazyx]

With the current plane set the Brits are notably lacking high speed aircraft relative to the US and Germany. 

 

Either of these aircraft would be an interesting and fitting addition to the line up due to the intricacies of the aircraft, though with no flying examples it would be tough to model. 

Arguably one of the most interesting parts of these aircraft are the Napier Sabre engines that are used, producing a fair amount more power then the rival engines, the merlin and the daimler engines. 

They were known for their low down speeds, brutal operating routines and quirks, such as being so fast they would rip their own controls off, their engines would catch fire if overprimed. 

The typhoon would fulfil the 1941-1943 period, and the tempest would fulfill the 1944-1945 role.

In addition it would be formidable due to being able to be armed with cannons, rockets and bombs.

 

 

[Lythronax]

Relevant: Audio of Typhoons attacking dummy (?) targets, showcasing the curious, scrambled exhaust note and high revving propeller of the Napier Sabre.

[Mogster]

They are supposed to had a very distinctive sound. Quite useful for its effect on enemy morale if nothing else.
 

In the late stages of the Arnhem battle Urquhart mentions enemy artillery fire being suspended just by the sound of Typhoons in the distance. 

[Megalax]

On 10/26/2023 at 8:26 AM, Mogster said:

In the late stages of the Arnhem battle Urquhart mentions enemy artillery fire being suspended just by the sound of Typhoons in the distance. 

I remember hearing audio of an American commander saying he felt for the Germans whenever he heard Hawker Typhoons coming. Is this the same person?

[Mogster]

1 hour ago, Megalax said:

I remember hearing audio of an American commander saying he felt for the Germans whenever he heard Hawker Typhoons coming. Is this the same person?

No this was Major General “Roy” Urquart of British 1st Airborne. It’s in his book I think. 

[zcrazyx]

As far as i remember the noise of the napier is more of a buzzing sound, like a nest of angry hornets. There's a video somewhere of one going after a V1.

closest i can find is this though. 

 

[Tzigy]

i would pay$$$$$$ for DCS versions, might even consider partying with one kidney...

[Fred901]

A Hawker Typhoon and a Tempest would be excellent for DCS !  Typhoon RB396 is being restored with the aim of flying it before the 80th anniversary of the Normandy landings.  There is also a Tempest MkV under restoration.

To begin with, a Typhoon would go very well with the Normandy 2.0 map.  In fact, it's really missing in DCS!  I know it's a plane with a fairly complex engine to reproduce but it would be great!

Edited January 2, 2024 by Fred901

[Slippa]

On 11/1/2023 at 8:44 PM, Tzigy said:

i would pay$$$$$$ for DCS versions, might even consider partying with one kidney...

I’ve already been partying with my kidneys over the festive season. I know what you mean though.

i’d love a Typhoon too. I knew someone that was a Sqn Ldr on Typhoons. A gorgeous fella that came unstuck after flying one into frag he’d just created attacking a train. The boiler blew and he was lucky to get out of it. POW for the rest of the duration. Another fella I met a few times flew Tempests, I still want the Typhoon out of the two, or both? .

[lonegun]

Typhoon for the 80th anniversary would be great 

[Gunfreak]

I would love a Typhoon.

Thar other ww2 thing has it. But the ground attack in the sim is atrocious. Sounds and graphics just removes any interest in ground attack role there.

[Fred901]

Bernard Gardiner, a former "Tiffy" pilot during the Second World War. He is a member of the Hawker Typhoon Preservation Group. He is 102 years old this year !

https://hawkertyphoon.com/

Edited January 13, 2024 by Fred901

[Mogster]

Tempest II not V unfortunately so has the Centaurus up front. Really gives an idea of how large an aircraft the Typhoon/Tempests were. Fabulous aircraft, hopefully it’ll make an appearance on the 2024 UK airshow scene.

Problem with the Typhoon/Tempest V will be the Sabre. Merlin or Centaurus are much more of a known quantity, especially the Merlin. Just having a Sabre engined Hawker as a ground runner would be a start.

Edited January 16, 2024 by Mogster

[pburnage]

Fantastic, I did not know they had finally flown the Tempest II.  Tempest V is still in progress I guess. Same aircraft with same flying characteristics, only the power plant is different. The Centaurus is a bit more powerful but a lot quieter, more reliable, smoother than the Sabre II. I hope to fly a Tempest in DCS one day,I developped one for CFS2 in the old days. Nowhere near as complex as DCS though....

[DD_Fenrir]

3 hours ago, pburnage said:

Same aircraft with same flying characteristics, only the power plant is different.

Be wary of making that assumption; different engine can result in different mounting and that can result in CoG shift which can impact handling significantly. It can also result in a different thrust line, plus distance of the prop from the CoG altering the way gyroscopic forces act in relation to it.

Also the way the airflow - including the propwash - interacts with the nose can have unpredictable effects with airflow down the fuselage, over the wing roots and how it eventually interacts with the tail, horizontal and vertical. 

Sometimes changing an engine type on an aircraft has negligible effect; at other times handling characteristics have even been improved.

But sometimes they've been considerably affected for the worse.

 

Edited February 5, 2024 by DD_Fenrir

[Mogster]

Some ground running recently.

 

[Mogster]

Great videos with Weeks and Richard Grace from UK Air Leasing discussing Weeks Tempest V restoration. Air Leasing were responsible for the Tempest II above and it seems Air leasing are going to work on Weeks Tempest V. It is mostly the aircraft that Grace’s father owned previously. Seems this might actually happen…

 

 

 

 

[Brigg]

Yeah a Tiffy would be awesome 

[Slippa]

Come on, let’s have it pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaassse

[dcn]

God please give us more Axis aircraft...

[DD_Fenrir]

18 hours ago, dcn said:

God please give us more Axis aircraft...

Er... maybe you misread the post title. Feel free to create a new thread outlining your particular wishes there.

[lonegun]

We need this aircraft 

[Talisman_VR]

Tempest V would be great!  

Happy landings,

Talisman

Edited July 19, 2024 by Talisman_VR

[TKhaos]

One of my favourite aircraft, I would be happy with a Tempest, Hurricane and Lancaster to go alongside my Spitfire

[Slippa]

Him!