fixed Landing gear collapses after repair

[BlackBaron46]

Had some strange landing gear related issues this evening. Even after we repaired all three aircraft twice, and landing gear lights cycled/went out on take off, it still won't retract/repair.

We even had one aircraft repair himself after he was hit by flak, but the resulting fall after the repair function lifted him into and dropped him broke his gear.

See photos.

Edited June 4, 2023 by BlackBaron46

[tazzharm]

hello all. 

couple of us was on a WW2 server and flying our P47 and P51.  we ended up taking some damage and upon landing requested a repair.  everything went ok till the plane was lowered and the landing gear failed.  we did try more then once and had to get new planes .

I posted this on the discord of the server and was told this is a dcs bug and to contact dcs .... so here I am .

thanks

Glenn.

[Flappie]

Hi. The P-47 issue was reported earlier.

I canot reproduce this issue in a P-51. If you can reproduce this in a short SP track, please attach it in the P-51 bug section.

P-47 repair failed.trk P-51 repair OK.trk P-51 repair OK2.trk

Edited June 13, 2023 by Flappie

[tazzharm]

hello all.

well I had posted this in non P47 area and thought I'd post it here .

upon landing after either getting a few holes in plane and or poor landing and damaging the plane .. pilot error lol

I and others would request repair.   the plane would life as it should and get repaired.   then upon being lowered the gear would get damaged.

this would happen 2 or 3 times in a row then we would have to select new slot and new plane.

any thoughts

thanks

Glenn.

[MikeRomeoSierra1974]

I am finding the same issue and it basically means requesting repair is pointless as you get a broken landing gear which in all probability is a worse fault than the one you wanted repaired. Hope they fix this soon but until then the repair function is next to useless. It seems as if the process of plonking the aircraft back down after repair causes the damage to the undercarriage struts

[tazzharm]

hey all

we had this problem as I already posted it however.....  buddy and I tried a new server in normandy map and after I left he tried a repair and it actually worked as it should.....previous we were on a channel map server with no repair available as it would repair the plane then upon lower it broke landing gear as your pic above shows.

could this be a dcs map bug?

thanks

[tazzharm]

after reading post on same topic. it may be a server map issue as buddy was able to repair on Normandy map and this one we on was channel map

[Tshark]

Flying buddy and I have had the same problem.  We were flying a mission in the Normandy 2 map at Saint Pierre Du Mont.  In P-47s, the repair drops us onto the surface damaging the gear.  Using Spitfires in the same mission the repair works as normal and sets us down gently.  This is consistent both in multi-player and single player.

server-20230626-123727.trk

Edited June 27, 2023 by Tshark

[Cool-Hand]

I can also confirm this report as well online and offline on the Normandy 2.0 map specifically. I can get repair to work correctly on the Channel map sometimes. Seems pretty consistent  to have the gear damaged on Normandy 2.0.

[Brigg]

yeah repair in the 47 is a 50/50 situation at the moment. like the others have said unlike the other modules after repair you get placed back on the ground gently, in the jug it drops you like a sack of potatoes which in turn damages the gear. even if the initial repair wasn't for the gear

Edited July 16, 2023 by Brigg

[jimbar42]

Confirmed this also occurs on the Marianas map. Started with one damaged landing gear and after repair I had two. Those guys working the crane need some training.

[Slippa]

I had the gear smashed on repair too. Will try other maps but it’s happened a couple of times already on Normandy2.

[Mtcicon]

i would also like to submit my experience as well. this is on the normandy 2 map as well as the marianas and caucases maps. all repairs were done with no ordinance and medium fuel load. i also tried as well with no fuel in order to hopefully not overtravel the suspension on the gear. the only time i was able to get the repair finished without damaging the gear was on a carrier headed into the wind as fast as possible. my opinion is that the aircraft is being dropped too hard after repair. this needs to be corrected either by strengthening the gear (which is a little sensitive) or by lowering the drop height. 

 

[Tzigy]

Same here.

[Reflected]

I noticed this too

[shalev054]

Found a temporary solution. 

Empty all fuel and ammo (yeah, i know, its annoying...) so it would be lighter.

this way it won't break your gear.

[Cool-Hand]

Awesome thanks for the tip! Never thought about the weight being the issue. It's a really annoying bug.

[palerider37]

Everyone I know has this bug, where can I find that ED is tracking this issue?  here?  

[Firebugs]

Aye, this has been the case since a series of updates on the landing gear earlier this year.  First change I remember was a little bouncy and explodey, then it was changed again to be less bouncy but the gear is much more easily damaged, most notably upon repair when dropping down after repairs are finished. 

 

As was mentioned above this can be somewhat mitigated (most/some of the time) by completely emptying ammo and fuel load before attempting repair.  However, this option is not available if the aircraft is leaking fluids (ground crew won't re-arm), in which case you're screwed.  I haven't tested different maps, but Normandy 2.0 (only map I routinely fly this aircraft on) is pretty much a guarantee it will happen with fuel on board. 

[Cool-Hand]

Bug is still present it seems in the latest open beta release. Still damaging the landing gear on repair.

[Firebugs]

In all variants of the P-47 on all maps that I've tested, the landing gear is damaged when the plane is lowered down after repair.

 

The only way to sometimes avoid this issue is to completely empty the plane of fuel and ammo (obviously this doesn't work if you have any oil/fuel leaks because the ground crew won't touch you until you're repaired).  This adds several minutes of unloading then re-loading to get a repair.  

 

Earlier this year there were a series of changes to the landing gear (bouncy, then explodey, now it breaks upon repair), and this plane has been like this for months now.  Some attention to this issue would be greatly appreciated by everyone that flies the P-47.

 

V/R

Firebugs

Edited December 3, 2023 by Firebugs

[Slippa]

Didn’t realise this was still happening. I had it along with others months ago but haven’t seen it for a while.

Hope for a fix too then.

[Flappie]

This was reported earlier. I've just bumped the internal report.

[Slippa]

Nice one Flappie .

[Buzzer1977]

The landing gear collapses after repair.
Zipped track file added.
Might be related to: 

 

P47RepairBug.zip