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[mwd2]

Only one airfield for Iran is planned?

[Draken35]

Somebody had to do it!

Overall I'm happy with the map. Looks really good in VR and performance over Bagdad is very decent.  This map has a lot of potential. Good job !

[YoYo]

Another interesting fact is that this map uses something like "bump mapping" on the ground too. We no longer have a flat surface, but there are additional bulging elements here, which greatly diversifies the environment. It really looks great! 

Again, not very good quality screenies (taken with VR), but you can clearly see what's going on.

Combined with the new "Haze" (if someone complains about the visibility of the horizon ) it looks really good!

Edited December 11, 2024 by YoYo

[DD_fruitbat]

1 hour ago, Draken35 said:

Somebody had to do it!

Overall I'm happy with the map. Looks really good in VR and performance over Bagdad is very decent.  This map has a lot of potential. Good job !

You sir, are a man of good taste....

Really liking what little I have seen so far, the terrain mesh its amazing imo.

Edited December 12, 2024 by DD_fruitbat

[aztec01]

6 hours ago, NineLine said:

Yes, we will never get mad if a customer wants to wait until its complete, if we waited until its complete the waiting time would most likely be the same. Many people like to join us on the development road, its a choice and can be a bumpy journey. 

Lately, I have been waiting , for any number of reasons, but I had a deal with Fox2 Productions.  I promised ED I would by the map if they told me what that epic theme music was.  Ten minutes later, I was buying the map!  Thanks F2.  Most expensive song I ever bought. 

The map?  A bit constrained, but I knew that on purchase.  Love the detail, less impressed with the breadth, looking forward to the additions particularly some blue bases, HINT: Al Udeid.   You are including Al Udeid?......Right?

[Iron Sights]

Map looks good and I love the terrain textures. It can only get better, so I think it will be one of the best maps, when it’s finished.

[MadKreator]

So far, I’m liking it. Definitely better  than Afghanistan at this point.  Some bland areas and some really gorgeous areas. But I’m so happy theres not hard edged high def “stickers” slapped all over. Much better on the blending techniques. My only gripe aside from the usual down low textures is it seems like the scenery (trees and buildings) LOD’s are very close. Need to be pushed out like 3 to 5x. Visibility on extreme and scenery and forest sliders all the way up and it feels more like everything is at minimum. Maybe they’re currently reduced for performance testing?  Other than that I feel like this is how an Early Access map should be. It’s not perfect,  but for sure it’s off to a very good start. Happy with this purchase.

[Peterik]

3 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

Really liking what little I have seen so far, the terrain mesh its amazing imo.

Thanks for the Vid.

Map looks great. This and Syria are the best dessert maps in my opinion.

[Kondor77]

6 hours ago, mwd2 said:

Only one airfield for Iran is planned?

I really hope this isn't the case. 

[Goetsch]

Anyway Afghan and Iraq maps I've been dreaming of since day 1 since I started playing this game, hopefully subsequent updates will make them look even better!

[MsKatze]

Do you know that the current price on Steam is $69.99?

Edited December 12, 2024 by MsKatze

[Ala12Rv-Tundra]

9 minutes ago, MsKatze said:

Do you know that the current price on Steam is $69.99?

yes they do, as stated on Steam forums.

4 hours ago, aztec01 said:

The map?  A bit constrained, but I knew that on purchase.  Love the detail, less impressed with the breadth, looking forward to the additions particularly some blue bases, HINT: Al Udeid.   You are including Al Udeid?......Right?

Yes Al Udeid will be included, check FAQ for further info

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/365676-dcs-iraq-release-faq/#comment-5567401

[N0XID]

As far as I can see, the price on Steam hasn't changed...

So sorry, don't be angry ED... but I'm not paying another 70€ seventy EURO what a sum (even a AAA game sometimes costs less) for this card.

Has there ever been a discussion about the pricing policy of the maps? I'm ready for it, because the prices for the maps are way too high. Way too high! With every additional map, the community, which is shrinking rather than growing, is split even further. See Afghanistan... I now know more people who don't have this map than own it, the same will happen with Iraq!

The maps are clearly too expensive.

 

Edited December 12, 2024 by N0XID

[BIGNEWY]

24 minutes ago, N0XID said:

As far as I can see, the price on Steam hasn't changed...

So sorry, don't be angry ED... but I'm not paying another 70€ seventy EURO what a sum (even a AAA game sometimes costs less) for this card.

Has there ever been a discussion about the pricing policy of the maps? I'm ready for it, because the prices for the maps are way too high. Way too high! With every additional map, the community, which is shrinking rather than growing, is split even further. See Afghanistan... I now know more people who don't have this map than own it, the same will happen with Iraq!

The maps are clearly too expensive.

 

Sorry for the price issues on steam, we are working to get them fixed as soon as possible. 

The maps are priced fairly in our opinion, we give discount for early access and also eventually are part of the normal sale. 

The work the teams are doing cost money, we are a business and those costs have to be covered.

thank you  

[bfr]

35 minutes ago, N0XID said:

As far as I can see, the price on Steam hasn't changed...

So sorry, don't be angry ED... but I'm not paying another 70€ seventy EURO what a sum (even a AAA game sometimes costs less) for this card.

Has there ever been a discussion about the pricing policy of the maps? I'm ready for it, because the prices for the maps are way too high. Way too high! With every additional map, the community, which is shrinking rather than growing, is split even further. See Afghanistan... I now know more people who don't have this map than own it, the same will happen with Iraq!

The maps are clearly too expensive.

 

It almost certainly shouldn't be $70, that appears to be a Steam-specific issue as its $56.99 direct and was about $7 less again if you bought it prior to launch.

And no one says you have to buy every single map, just like you don't have to buy every single plane (I passed on buying Afghanistan but bought Iraq as I think it'll the more popular for user created content in time).

Limited initial impressions (i've only spent about an hour flying around so far) are fairly good. The mountain area is stunning (possibly the best in any map i've played so far) although I admit I wasn't blown away overflying Baghdad (not terrible, not great).

 

EDIT: Is there a list anywhere of currently implemented POIs on the map and their rough locations?

Edited December 12, 2024 by bfr

[N0XID]

vor 2 Minuten schrieb Schlingel mit Kringel:

That entitlement when people act like it is kind of a human right everybody must be able to afford all and every DCS module Genuinely amazed what goes around in some folks heads nowadays.

70 bucks btw are about two evenings out drinking or having dinner at a restaurant, resulting in roughly a dozen hours of "entertainment". Rarely hear complains about this. Now do this cost/hour calculation with a map or module that has a high replayability (which most AAA do not have btw).

Hm i spend since 2021 around 1200€... So, i can pay all the stuff. That´s not the problem. But i can see a lot more who are no longer prepared to pay these prices. Because there are more and more people who do without it and opinions are growing that the prices are too high. And the willingness to buy new cards would be higher if the prices were halved.

Take a look online and see how many players are on Afghanistan? Or Kola? Or SA....

[BIGNEWY]

steam price for full Iraq is wrong, the team are trying to get it changed, but steam dont work quickly. 

 

[CRUD]

Just on a personal note, in late 2004, I used to drive from Mosul up to Dahuk and back every week from mid November and a little into January 2005.  I remember it being much more desert like.  I also remember seeing the snow line in the mountains aroudn Dahuk getting lower and lower every week too.  There wasn't nearly the scrub plants I see on this map on that route. I know that Mosul isn't done yet (the airfield and FOB Maraez aren't in yet and not real sure if FOB Freedom, where I was, looked like that either) though so maybe it's that. 

Edited December 12, 2024 by CRUD

[BIGNEWY]

Just now, CRUD said:

Just on a personal note, in late 2004, I used to drive from Mosul up to Dahuk every week.  I remember it being much more desert like.  There wasn't nearly the scrub plants I see on this map on that route. I know that Mosul isn't done yet (the airfield and FOB Maraez aren't in yet and not real sure if FOB Freedom, where I was, looked like that either) though so maybe it's that. 

If you have reference photos feel free to PM me, 

thanks 

[CRUD]

4 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

If you have reference photos feel free to PM me, 

thanks 

Yeah, nah, not memories I wanted to keep.  Hated that place.  Dahuk was nice though.  I'll ask some of the guys though.  If fact, while the map was downloading I was getting a serious anxiety attack.

 

 

Edited December 12, 2024 by CRUD

[Ala12Rv-Tundra]

4 minutes ago, CRUD said:

Yeah, nah, not memories I wanted to keep.  Hated that place.  Dahuk was nice though.  I'll ask some of the guys though.  If fact, while the map was downloading I was getting a serious anxiety attack.

 

 

Health first sir. I hope you are doing better.

[Ala12Rv-Tundra]

17 minutes ago, N0XID said:

Hm i spend since 2021 around 1200€... So, i can pay all the stuff. That´s not the problem. But i can see a lot more who are no longer prepared to pay these prices. Because there are more and more people who do without it and opinions are growing that the prices are too high. And the willingness to buy new cards would be higher if the prices were halved.

Take a look online and see how many players are on Afghanistan? Or Kola? Or SA....

If a player believes a map is too expensive, it would be great DCS could provide the option to fly on free maps, different areas of course, one lets say with high mountains, and the other mostly ocean with islands, even online, even with other players using different modules without having to buy everything. I guess that would be a popular option for online like you said. But one only can wish huh.

[N0XID]

vor 4 Minuten schrieb Ala12Rv-Tundra:

If a player believes a map is too expensive, it would be great DCS could provide the option to fly on free maps, different areas of course, one lets say with high mountains, and the other mostly ocean with islands, even online, even with other players using different modules without having to buy everything. I guess that would be a popular option for online like you said. But one only can wish huh.

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next please

[BIGNEWY]

We have two free maps with a third on the way. 

Please dont derail this thread with pricing discussion, keep it for Iraq feedback. 

Thank you 

[richskinns]

9 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

We have two free maps with a third on the way. 

Please dont derail this thread with pricing discussion, keep it for Iraq feedback. 

Thank you 

Wow.  Very nice 

Spent 1 hour flying over Bagdad in the Kiowa tonight 

Detail in buildings and scenes and variety of structures is nothing short of spectacular 

still needs a good deal optimisation from a performance perspective but very impressive even on first launch.  This is going to be one of EDs best maps in time 

gkad I bought it 

 

 

my humble opinion