reported CPU runs +20° hotter in idle after update to 2.9.16.10523.

[666]

2 minutes ago, FZG_Immel said:

forget about my sign. this was before my intel CPU died 1 year ago. I am now running the Intel safe BIOS and settings, since they clearly have issuee with gen13/14 CPUs

All good mate, I just wanted to cover those things and heres this from the Intel site showing that 100c, although not ideal is its advertised thermal limit. You obviously know what you are doing. Good luck getting this sorted!null

[draconus]

1 hour ago, Art-J said:

Your campaign progress is stored in Saved Games location (not at home ATM, so can't check in which file exactly), so if you install correct version this time, I believe you should get your progress back again.

The campaigns' progress and all the player's stats are saved in \saved games\dcs\missioneditor\logbook.lua file.

[FZG_Immel]

29 minutes ago, 666 said:

All good mate, I just wanted to cover those things and heres this from the Intel site showing that 100c, although not ideal is its advertised thermal limit. You obviously know what you are doing. Good luck getting this sorted!null

thank you for the heads up anyway!

[Morrowind]

4 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

Ive asked the team to look into it, it seems to be an AMD thing. I am using INTEL so can not test it personally. 

Can anyone check AMD efficiency mode, by default it should be on but some disable it. Let me know if you had it disabled. 

thanks 

 

 

I am using an AMD 5800X with ECO mode enabled and have the increased temps issue and increased load at home menu.

[Lange_666]

1 hour ago, FZG_Immel said:

I have no log to report, as I have no crash myself. just very high temps

Yes you do, DCS creates a new dcs.log each time you run the sim. No need to have it crashed for a log report.

Edited Friday at 11:38 AM by Lange_666

[BluesRocket]

Is this just AMD? My Intel system rocks with the update, seems faster and smoother, frankly. I was overjoyed after several hours play in 2D (haven't yet jumped into VR). Alienware fans appeared to run silently the whole time. But will monitor later today.

Edited Friday at 12:46 PM by BluesRocket

[Gierasimov]

1 hour ago, BluesRocket said:

Is this just AMD? My system rocks with the update, seems faster and smoother, frankly. I was overjoyed after several hours play in 2D (haven't yet jumped into VR). Alienware fans appeared to run silently the whole time. But will monitor later today.

I think it is affecting mostly AMD(?), BigNewy said he does not get the same issue as reported here, you and I are also not getting it. Actually my temperatures are even lower than in other games, or benchmarks - I ran the stress and temps were along the 76 degrees C mostly under stress load. in DCS I am seeing 65 - 68 degrees C, I am an old fashioned Noctua air cooler guy. 

Most importantly the issue is replicated and report made to the team, let's hope it's the case of a quick hotfix. 

Edited Friday at 12:55 PM by Gierasimov

[Morrowind]

25 minutes ago, BluesRocket said:

Is this just AMD? My system rocks with the update, seems faster and smoother, frankly. I was overjoyed after several hours play in 2D (haven't yet jumped into VR). Alienware fans appeared to run silently the whole time. But will monitor later today.

No it's also affecting a user with intel here in this discussion who posted temps on first page.

[Morrowind]

7 hours ago, Dmsea1 said:

oh no - i installed that revert file and it went to some backwards update from 2024 - I lost the launcher and lost my campaigns

I downloaded the file, inserted into Root folder, ran it, and it erased my campaigns and dragged me back into 2024.  

As it says in the post you downloaded from you have to modify the file to the version number of the game you want to go back to. I presume you wanted to go back to DCS2.9.15.9599.1 not DCS2.9.5.55918 that the file you downloaded is at in the name of the file.

 

Edit the File in Notepad to your desired version

Edited Friday at 01:22 PM by Morrowind
Instructions

[Mamakin]

Hi.

I have just take a look at the temperature to see if I have the CPU temp. issue. I don't have the pre-patch values but to me looks normal...? HP G2

[Lange_666]

If you don't have pre-patch values, how can you compare?
Also, what's the temp when in idle in the main menu (in 2D, not in VR).
Pre-patch, the temp should be quite a bit lower in the main menu than the temps in the latest patch.
The fan noise should come down to normal levels after the initial load, it doesn't do that in 2.9.16 like it did in previous versions.

Edited Friday at 03:24 PM by Lange_666

[Dmsea1]

3 hours ago, Morrowind said:

As it says in the post you downloaded from you have to modify the file to the version number of the game you want to go back to. I presume you wanted to go back to DCS2.9.15.9599.1 not DCS2.9.5.55918 that the file you downloaded is at in the name of the file.

 

Edit the File in Notepad to your desired version

Thanks for the response.  This is exactly what I did - I edited it to the most recent version - and it still somehow reverted to the older version.   Not sure what I did wrong.  

5 hours ago, Art-J said:

That's why he specifically wrote about "modifying for your desired version". You have to edit the file and type in exact DCS version number you need (in this case the one which we were on till Tuesday), not just blindly launch whatever you find on the internet.

There's still hope, though. Your campaign progress is stored in Saved Games location (not at home ATM, so can't check in which file exactly), so if you install correct version this time, I believe you should get your progress back again.

Thanks for the response.   I did go in and edit the file to the version just before this last one and followed the instructions - but I must have missed a step as it still reverted to the older version.  Not sure what happened.  I will give it another shot.  

[ghostmail1999]

The temperature issue seems to affect not only AMD but also Intel CPUs. My AIO Intel i7 13700 KF and Nvidia RTX 4800 64GB Fury DDR 6000 systems are also 20 degrees warmer than before the new update. I rolled back and confirmed that version 2.9.16.10523 is faulty.

Edited Friday at 05:34 PM by ghostmail1999

[mrsylvestre]

Same here on AMD 5800x3d. As I run aggressive cooling settings, I am not too concerned about the CPU temperature (still low enough) but the fans are working a lot more than with the previous version. Average core use Average active core count reported by Hardware Monitor while playing DCS was about 2 (out of 8 cores) before the update, now it is 6. Sadly, if there is a performance improvement (not that I noticed any), it is not up to the same ratio. Interestingly, high CPU use is not restricted to gameplay, it is also present in UI screens.

Reverting back to previous version until this is fixed.

(Edit: HWMonitor terminology)

Edited Friday at 04:56 PM by mrsylvestre

[Dmsea1]

2 hours ago, Mamakin said:

Hi.

I have just take a look at the temperature to see if I have the CPU temp. issue. I don't have the pre-patch values but to me looks normal...? HP G2

I track Temps regularly - I have a new machine and have a liquid cooled CPU - Ryzen 7 - 7700X-  Temps jumped 20 c - at idle - main menu.   

[Dmsea1]

6 hours ago, draconus said:

The campaigns' progress and all the player's stats are saved in \saved games\dcs\missioneditor\logbook.lua file.

Thank you.  I am new to the community, so a lot to learn with the program and how it works.   It is definitely a bit of a Learning curve.   

8 hours ago, Art-J said:

That's why he specifically wrote about "modifying for your desired version". You have to edit the file and type in exact DCS version number you need (in this case the one which we were on till Tuesday), not just blindly launch whatever you find on the internet.

There's still hope, though. Your campaign progress is stored in Saved Games location (not at home ATM, so can't check in which file exactly), so if you install correct version this time, I believe you should get your progress back again.

Doing this now, thanks again.  

5 hours ago, Morrowind said:

As it says in the post you downloaded from you have to modify the file to the version number of the game you want to go back to. I presume you wanted to go back to DCS2.9.15.9599.1 not DCS2.9.5.55918 that the file you downloaded is at in the name of the file.

 

Edit the File in Notepad to your desired version

Updating now, this was a huge help.  I changed the title of the file, didn’t do the most important step - change in notepad.  Got 2 hours to go and we should be back! Thanks again. 

[Lange_666]

2 hours ago, Dmsea1 said:

Thanks for the response.  This is exactly what I did - I edited it to the most recent version - and it still somehow reverted to the older version.   Not sure what I did wrong.  

Thanks for the response.   I did go in and edit the file to the version just before this last one and followed the instructions - but I must have missed a step as it still reverted to the older version.  Not sure what happened.  I will give it another shot.  

Consider this utility to do what you want to do (and a lot more).

 

[Oberst Struppi]

9800X3D with 360mm AIO. Since .10523 increased temperature by at least 10°.
Its not just on the client side i guess. Even our dedicated server shows increased CPU load.

[mrsylvestre]

To revert to the previous version, just type

.\bin\DCS_updater.exe update 2.9.15.9599.1@release

in a command prompt (or powershell) from the main DCS World folder. And be patient, as the download will take about as long as for the update. Please note: not applicable to the Steam version.

[FZG_Immel]

after 90min on contention Cold War server tonight..

All cores where throttled at least once.

 

dcs.log

Edited Friday at 08:34 PM by FZG_Immel

[ghostmail1999]

Just now in single player, after 15 minutes of playing the Afghanistan map, it's just a flipbook. The CPU cores are around 80 degrees. The multiplayer servers should downgrade so that we can play again with the stable version 2.9.15.9599.1 - May 5, 2025.

[inZane]

9800X3D here and not seeing much higher temps in DCS than any other DX11/12 game I have. This screenshot is just from DCS running and the Max temps are on the right. 74c for a processor isnt that far from normal function. rest of my PC in in my sig. 
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[rob10]

17 minutes ago, ghostmail1999 said:

Just now in single player, after 15 minutes of playing the Afghanistan map, it's just a flipbook. The CPU cores are around 80 degrees. The multiplayer servers should downgrade so that we can play again with the stable version 2.9.15.9599.1 - May 5, 2025.

That sucks, but it's an issue for SOME users but I would argue not the majority.  Why should everyone else have to downgrade (I have really crappy download speeds so that pretty much puts me out for a day)?  It's been acknowledged and reproduced on their end, so hopefully ED can hotfix this quickly for those having the issue.

[inZane]

20 minutes ago, ghostmail1999 said:

Just now in single player, after 15 minutes of playing the Afghanistan map, it's just a flipbook. The CPU cores are around 80 degrees. The multiplayer servers should downgrade so that we can play again with the stable version 2.9.15.9599.1 - May 5, 2025.

Each owner of the server would have to be the ones to make that decision, not ED. As for cores around 80c will depend on a number of things. What is your CPU? What is your idle (pre-DCS launch) temps, your temps in menu. Are you air cooled, AIO, custom water? Depening on some of those factors will determine your temps. Also, what is a temp of another DX11/12 game that you have that will push your system/graphics?

[TheBiggerBass]

vor 16 Stunden schrieb BIGNEWY:

Ive asked the team to look into it, it seems to be an AMD thing. I am using INTEL so can not test it personally. 

Can anyone check AMD efficiency mode, by default it should be on but some disable it. Let me know if you had it disabled. 

thanks 

 

 

It's not an AMD only issue. Got the same after updating to 2.9.16.10523 running on an i9-14900K.

However, I suggest to look for GPU load 1st. The CPU does not show more load, but the GPU load has drastically increased (from <5% to approx. 40% in idle on my system).

Edited Friday at 11:09 PM by TheBiggerBass