reported Metric/Imperial options

[celestHawk]

Hello, 

quick question as I'm looking for that feature/setting for a while. 

So how in God's name do I use this in other planes or it is newly implemented for that module only - i.e. I would like to use knots and feets for all planes in cockpit?

Reference video: 

 

[razo+r]

It's not implemented in all aircraft.

[celestHawk]

7 minutes ago, razo+r said:

It's not implemented in all aircraft.

Is there an list with planes it is implemented? A setting to look for in order to determent if it is? Thank you!

Edited September 14 by celestHawk

[razo+r]

17 minutes ago, celestHawk said:

Is there an list with planes it is implemented?

Not that I know of.

17 minutes ago, celestHawk said:

A setting to look for in order to determent if it is? Thank you!

It's either the avionic language or the unit setting in the gameplay settings, I don't remember. According to the manual, the unit setting should only affect the outside measurements, but maybe worth a shot to try too.. Some may also have specific metric or imperial cockpit liveries in the special settings. For some you can download such a livery.

[TheBiggerBass]

vor 3 Stunden schrieb razo+r:

It's not implemented in all aircraft.

A good opportunity to familiarize yourself with the metric system 

[YoYo]

Generally, you should fly the MiG-29 with the metric system for obvious reasons. Even the planes used by the GDR were Soviet-style. This means that if someone changes metric to imperial and the cockpit to English, it's a form of fake (for example, even Iranian MiG-29s had Cyrillic characters in their cockpits). It's like having to fly an F-16 in the metric system because I know it better. I propose 3 rules:

1/ keep it real

2/ learn and develop

3/ be ambitious

Edited September 14 by YoYo

[celestHawk]

19 hours ago, YoYo said:

Generally, you should fly the MiG-29 with the metric system for obvious reasons. Even the planes used by the GDR were Soviet-style. This means that if someone changes metric to imperial and the cockpit to English, it's a form of fake (for example, even Iranian MiG-29s had Cyrillic characters in their cockpits). It's like having to fly an F-16 in the metric system because I know it better. I propose 3 rules:

1/ keep it real

2/ learn and develop

3/ be ambitious

Generally you should keep your propositions and suggestions to yourself ESPECIALY when the question is related to a feature of the commercial product and not a mod!

I genuinely asked a question related to a product showed in a presentation, adding the reason I'm looking for to know!

P.S. Iranians have also F-14's with western cockpits and Chinese doesn't use any Cyrillic or western writings in theirs J/JF cockpits  

19 hours ago, TheBiggerBass said:

A good opportunity to familiarize yourself with the metric system 

 Fair enough,

however I'm a native user of metric system and related to flying I'm more than comfortable with Imperial measurements as I started with western products and have a great deal of confusion when sit in a eastern cockpit. 

[celestHawk]

22 hours ago, razo+r said:

Not that I know of.

It's either the avionic language or the unit setting in the gameplay settings, I don't remember. According to the manual, the unit setting should only affect the outside measurements, but maybe worth a shot to try too.. Some may also have specific metric or imperial cockpit liveries in the special settings. For some you can download such a livery.

Thank you for the suggestions. Changing liveries is one thing and despite the community efforts to make translations of them it doesn't relate to the instruments  same deal with the provided by ED i.e. Cockpits of Su-27/J-11. 

Ah well, I'll wait for the official release and do more research on the topic!

[Akiazusa]

I don't think changing unit to Imperial is too unrealistic for mig29 as everything is the IRL GAF mig-29 manual is in Imperial unit.

I don't remember any other aircraft in DCS has this feature since it's a new feature for dcs.

u can change unit from Metric to Imperial in L39 if u set avionics language setting to English 

Some aircraft have limited ability to change unit,like A-10C using IFFCC manual u can change distant unit to Metric to better coordinate with army I guss,but everything else is still in Imperial regardless the setting. ka50 u can switch everything on ABRIS(which is like a more advanced NS430) to different unit,but unit for steam gauges and HUD will keep in Metric.

Also IIRC for FC3 version of Mig29, Mig29A and S are using Metric but Mig29G is using Imperial,but u have to switch aircraft to get that unit change.

(JF has a English cockpits since it's designed for export)

Edited September 15 by Akiazusa

[YoYo]

1 hour ago, celestHawk said:

.... when the question is related to a feature of the commercial product and not a mod!

Hi. It doesn't matter if it's a paid add-on or a mod. If you want to maintain realism and move forward, use the metric system. Of course, that's your decision, which makes no sense to me for the simple reasons already described.

Btw. Of course, there are exceptions, such Polaris Ghost Squadron as a used plane, but this is a completely different version and, of course, purchased for private (in this case) or training needs.

1 hour ago, celestHawk said:

P.S. Iranians have also F-14's with western cockpits 

After all, the F-14 is an American aircraft (descriptions is another matter); it can't use the metric system. Iran used its own systems, depending on the manufacturer, and as you can see, the guys managed. I can't imagine flying an F-16 with the metric system because it's "so convenient" for me; switching isn't that difficult. Even though it's your decision (what I don't interfere with) trust me and be more ambitious .  I know there were occasions when the Russians were able to produce cockpit descriptions in English for foreign customers like Malaysia or India, but these were very rare. The entire Eastern Bloc (Warsaw Pact) used Cyrillic for their aircraft. Btw. as for China, some types were developed in cooperation (like the J-17) and for export. These planes also have English explanations in the cockpit in real life, which is perfectly fine, so I don't know what example this is. However, you probably know that when you hover your mouse over a button, a "bubble" with English text will appear, even if the textures in the cockpit are Cyrillic.

Edited September 15 by YoYo

[celestHawk]

7 hours ago, YoYo said:

Hi. It doesn't matter if it's a paid add-on or a mod. If you want to maintain realism and move forward, use the metric system. Of course, that's your decision, which makes no sense to me for the simple reasons already described.

Btw. Of course, there are exceptions, such Polaris Ghost Squadron as a used plane, but this is a completely different version and, of course, purchased for private (in this case) or training needs.

After all, the F-14 is an American aircraft (descriptions is another matter); it can't use the metric system. Iran used its own systems, depending on the manufacturer, and as you can see, the guys managed. I can't imagine flying an F-16 with the metric system because it's "so convenient" for me; switching isn't that difficult. Even though it's your decision (what I don't interfere with) trust me and be more ambitious .  I know there were occasions when the Russians were able to produce cockpit descriptions in English for foreign customers like Malaysia or India, but these were very rare. The entire Eastern Bloc (Warsaw Pact) used Cyrillic for their aircraft. Btw. as for China, some types were developed in cooperation (like the J-17) and for export. These planes also have English explanations in the cockpit in real life, which is perfectly fine, so I don't know what example this is. However, you probably know that when you hover your mouse over a button, a "bubble" with English text will appear, even if the textures in the cockpit are Cyrillic.

The hole point of my OP was to make MiG and Su into Imperial measurements and your explanation about Iran, Russia and Chine IS MY POINT that it has nothing with realism but entirely necessity for the current user/pilot/army!   

P.S. Hovering over buttons is programming side of the model not related to cockpit textures  

[Dača]

9 minutes ago, celestHawk said:

The hole point of my OP was to make MiG and Su into Imperial measurements and your explanation about Iran, Russia and Chine IS MY POINT that it has nothing with realism but entirely necessity for the current user/pilot/army!   

P.S. Hovering over buttons is programming side of the model not related to cockpit textures  

MiG-29A (9.12A) was produced during '80s exclusively and only for Warsaw pact east European nations (not Russia, btw). It came only in metric and Russian. I also don't see your point. You will still get English and Imperial units in this module for gaming purposes.

[YoYo]

5 minutes ago, Dača said:

MiG-29A (9.12A) was produced during '80s exclusively and only for Warsaw pact east European nations (not Russia, btw). It came only in metric and Russian. I also don't see your point. You will still get English and Imperial units in this module for gaming purposes.

This.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

43 minutes ago, celestHawk said:

The hole point of my OP was to make MiG and Su into Imperial measurements

IRL? That makes no sense. Metric is SI and used by 96% of the world population, and even the US is (very slowly) converting to metric - finally.

[celestHawk]

11 hours ago, Akiazusa said:

I don't think changing unit to Imperial is too unrealistic for mig29 as everything is the IRL GAF mig-29 manual is in Imperial unit.

I don't remember any other aircraft in DCS has this feature since it's a new feature for dcs.

u can change unit from Metric to Imperial in L39 if u set avionics language setting to English 

Some aircraft have limited ability to change unit,like A-10C using IFFCC manual u can change distant unit to Metric to better coordinate with army I guss,but everything else is still in Imperial regardless the setting. ka50 u can switch everything on ABRIS(which is like a more advanced NS430) to different unit,but unit for steam gauges and HUD will keep in Metric.

Also IIRC for FC3 version of Mig29, Mig29A and S are using Metric but Mig29G is using Imperial,but u have to switch aircraft to get that unit change.

(JF has a English cockpits since it's designed for export)

...are using Metric but Mig29G is using Imperial...

Only thing I must do now is to change the module to be avail on 'Combined Joint Task Forces' and I'll have Imp's on my hud  

 

P.S. The rest of you with useless opinions...don't waste my time any more, would you?!

Edited September 15 by celestHawk

[NineLine]

On 9/14/2025 at 3:39 AM, YoYo said:

Generally, you should fly the MiG-29 with the metric system for obvious reasons. Even the planes used by the GDR were Soviet-style. This means that if someone changes metric to imperial and the cockpit to English, it's a form of fake (for example, even Iranian MiG-29s had Cyrillic characters in their cockpits). It's like having to fly an F-16 in the metric system because I know it better. I propose 3 rules:

1/ keep it real

2/ learn and develop

3/ be ambitious

Or appreciate the options to make it easier for all to access at a level that is comfortable to them. 

[Dača]

I would really be comfortable with MiG-29 SMT or MiG-35. But I guess not everyone gets what they want.

[celestHawk]

9 hours ago, Dača said:

I would really be comfortable with MiG-29 SMT or MiG-35. But I guess not everyone gets what they want.

comfortable...

I understand that you consider yourself for an entitled person your whole life but nothing in the universe revolves around you! 

Saying that, there is a 'wish' section in the forum where you can express your deepest dreams and wishes and maybe, just maybe some day some of them will become real.

[Dača]

38 minutes ago, celestHawk said:

comfortable...

I understand that you consider yourself for an entitled person your whole life but nothing in the universe revolves around you! 

Saying that, there is a 'wish' section in the forum where you can express your deepest dreams and wishes and maybe, just maybe some day some of them will become real.

Why so frustrated. Go get a life, it would really suit you. No need to come at everyone. There are other more pleasant things in life in case you didn't know.

[sylkhan]

18 hours ago, NineLine said:

Or appreciate the options to make it easier for all to access at a level that is comfortable to them. 

Sure, you should do the same with F-16, F-18 and so on, with metric sytem, because imperial system is so .... well, obsolete, outdated, it would be more confortable for me, but for now i try to avoid all planes with imperial system.

Edited September 16 by sylkhan

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

31 minutes ago, sylkhan said:

imperial system is so .... well, obsolete, outdated

Yup, we used to have measurements like that as well (for example the "el" - which was about 68cm) - it went out of date in the 1800s.

[Ivandrov]

Well, we can already tell that this is going to be at least somewhat the case. The english cockpit that Wags is using is labeled Miles on the HSI at the least. Although the HUD and HSI units look identical.

Edited September 16 by Ivandrov

[TotenDead]

It makes little sense for me why would one from metric world want to use imperial instead of a more convenient system, but why not, I suppose? 

 

Btw, I would really appreciate if ED made the F-16 in metric and in russian

[Amarok_73]

On 9/15/2025 at 7:35 PM, celestHawk said:

P.S. The rest of you with useless opinions...don't waste my time any more, would you?!

I'll give you usefull tip - apply for refund.
You don't seem to be the one compatible with this plane and you already become spiteful, snappy and obviously frustrated before you've even given yourself a chance to get to know the machine properly. There will be no chemistry between you two.
Good luck! 

[celestHawk]

28 minutes ago, Amarok_73 said:

I'll give you usefull tip - apply for refund.
You don't seem to be the one compatible with this plane and you already become spiteful, snappy and obviously frustrated before you've even given yourself a chance to get to know the machine properly. There will be no chemistry between you two.
Good luck! 

Oh, my dear boy, I not only did not payed for that 'soon to be released' module but I'll never pay for a fan based module as MiG-29. In addition I'll add that I was asking for the version from FC  which I bought on sale...with miles :D. 

So.. yeah keep your worthless opinion  

Luck has nothing to do with things I'm looking for...only time  

47 minutes ago, TotenDead said:

It makes little sense for me why would one from metric world want to use imperial instead of a more convenient system, but why not, I suppose? 

 

Btw, I would really appreciate if ED made the F-16 in metric and in russian

I explained 'why' already.

Well, Germans translated MiG-29, Chinese translate Su-27 is only matter of time for Taliban to translate F-16 into Russian