New MiG-29A/C/UB models

[Sawamura]

Holy moly. Awsome model. Cant wait for more! :thumbup:

[Pouka]

Very nice indeed!! :thumbup:

[Vekkinho]

Good looking! Keep it up and report updates more often!

[DetroitDieseL]

Awesome attention to detail- might I ask where you got all the reference material to get that detailed? primeportal or are you only working with imageplains?

Edited April 3, 2011 by DetroitDieseL

[59th_Krieger]

Awesome attention to detail- might I ask where you got all the reference material to get that detailed? primeportal or are you only working with imageplains?

 

Google my friend:D

[RED9R1pper]

Holy Hell....She's Gorgeous!

 

What program are you using and what form of modelling approach are you using to create the fuselage?

 

i.e. i use 3dsmax with meshsmooth.

Edited April 30, 2011 by RED9|R1pper

[john_X]

using 3ds max with meshsmooth is the best way to model in general but,the problem is to know how to use it because is prety difficult. when you create so many details and you use meshsmooth you'll definitely have some shape errors. you see, you have to be smart and create the general shape using meshsmooth and after that you can add details modeled without ms, manually, for example the gear doors i cut them from the general shape and this way you won't see any line of joint. else, and this is my personal opinion, the look will be distorted.

 

@59th Reaper-i wrote all these things because i see the same problem at this model too. well, you have very nice details, and this adds some realism to the model but i've seen some pics before and you have some serious errors at the shape, below between the engines, above at the hunchback, air intakes. the line must be coursive and to me it doesn't seems to be.. yet, i may be wrong. can you put a whire render with the plane, this way we'll see if there's any error in modeling.

[combatace]

using 3ds max with meshsmooth is the best way to model in general but,the problem is to know how to use it because is prety difficult. when you create so many details and you use meshsmooth you'll definitely have some shape errors. you see, you have to be smart and create the general shape using meshsmooth and after that you can add details modeled without ms, manually, for example the gear doors i cut them from the general shape and this way you won't see any line of joint. else, and this is my personal opinion, the look will be distorted.

 

@59th Reaper-i wrote all these things because i see the same problem at this model too. well, you have very nice details, and this adds some realism to the model but i've seen some pics before and you have some serious errors at the shape, below between the engines, above at the hunchback, air intakes. the line must be coursive and to me it doesn't seems to be.. yet, i may be wrong. can you put a whire render with the plane, this way we'll see if there's any error in modeling.

 

Make the original shape with minimal required vertices just to make a basic form while using meshsmooth but at certain point when you will need to convert it to editable poly again so that you can make the final changes.

[59th_Reaper]

 

@59th Reaper-i wrote all these things because i see the same problem at this model too. well, you have very nice details, and this adds some realism to the model but i've seen some pics before and you have some serious errors at the shape, below between the engines, above at the hunchback, air intakes. the line must be coursive and to me it doesn't seems to be.. yet, i may be wrong. can you put a whire render with the plane, this way we'll see if there's any error in modeling.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=961267&postcount=177

[aaron886]

using 3ds max with meshsmooth is the best way to model in general

 

Yeah that's just not true. It's the lazy way to model for applications. It's less accurate, and using it is just asking for an excessively high poly-count, especially when it's not needed.

[john_X]

Yeah that's just not true. It's the lazy way to model for applications. It's less accurate, and using it is just asking for an excessively high poly-count, especially when it's not needed.

 

and i'm sure you don't control it, in other words you don't know its hidden advantages. the truth is there are few persons who really know how to use it just because it's difficult to understand it. it took me a year and a half to find out how to mak it accurate and even now i can't state i'm an expert. the high poly-count has nothing to do with meshsmooth and before you say something about anything you must know what are you talking about. it's not lazy and you must know that all the experts use it, and only the good ones, and for example, look here:

 

http://www.military-meshes.com/forums/

 

do you think all these guys are lazy? i'm sure you can't touch their level in modeling. and of what i know, meshsmooth is the best way to count and control the number of polys, but i won't teach you how.

[Wartski]

Looking forward to the Mig.

[joey45]

After you meshsmooth you clean/clear up all the unwanted added xtras.

[aaron886]

do you think all these guys are lazy? i'm sure you can't touch their level in modeling. and of what i know, meshsmooth is the best way to count and control the number of polys, but i won't teach you how.

 

John, I'm not worried about learning anything about anything from you. :D Yes, I know how to use Meshsmooth. No, I will never use it for a model used in a simulator. The amazing models you're looking at on Military-meshes are for render or movie-work and are made by industry professionals in those fields. Know the difference.

[Luse]

Reminder here,

JohnX is a guy whos had 2 or 3 mods that were done in two weeks. Over a year ago. He hasn't produced one. Congrats on that John.

[john_X]

yes i didfinish them, but for me...i will release them when i'll feel ready to do it, and i worked my models with meshsmooth and all my models are lower than 20000 polys. the thing for releasing my mods is the next one. one year ago i asked for a f-16, blaze's one and no one wanted to give it to me too even i've seen there are many persons who had it. now i have mine.

[Luse]

That's weird considering your Orao, You swore up and down was going to be publicly released. Along with your rework of TOMCATZ Model aswell.

 

I can always find the posts saying this if you need a refresher :thumbup:

[Blaze]

one year ago i asked for a f-16, blaze's one and no one wanted to give it to me too even i've seen there are many persons who had it. now i have mine.

Those "many" people are my teammates bud. ;)

[Vecko]

Looking forward to the Mig.

Sure, just like everyone else in this thread...Since 2009.:music_whistling:

[Sawamura]

"We all are waiting for an outstanding and high detailed model by Krieger. We all trust him, that he will finish a model, that will hit and cross all our expections.

 

Mig-29 by Krieger. High detail in every detail."

Since 2009.:music_whistling:

[Blaze]

There's this thing that always seems to get in the way, it's called "real life". ;)

[59th_Krieger]

Hi all!

Some update from the actualities of project.

[Sawamura]

Nice! :thumbup:

 

Cant wait for more. :)

[Presing]

Can't, wait to be finished.

 

Nice to see that bird full not only parts anymore. Keep with work and hope that will be finish soon.

 

P.S. Speed up guy's PLEASE :D :D :D :D

[Kuky]

That should be such a beaty to take into flight and fly formation with someone... this bird so deserves DCS module :)