Announcing Flaming Cliffs 2.0

[asparagin]

Are you certain? :D

 

Heisenberg spells 10 letters, so I would say it is far beyond to be a quantum word, which has about 6.626×10−34 letters. So..yes I'm pretty sure..:D

[159th_Viper]

Are you certain? :D

 

:megalol:

 

Excellent Play on Words!

[Lucas_From_Hell]

It's HEISENBERG for crying out loud.

And the correct formulation would be: The more probes you take the more vague your answer will be.

 

Once you "probed" (have information) about the system, you can never (not a matter of statistics) get the "straight" answer. ;)

 

Asparagin, but here's the thing: I guess Pilotasso learned it in Portuguese, and then translated into English. I'm also guessing he learned this some time ago, and age/beer/flight-simulators are famous for rendering your memory useless :D

 

And at last, at least in Brazil, some teachers (not all) usually mispronounce foreign names, specially the most complicated ones, so if you mix language, memory busters and teachers with little knowledge of other languages, you're likely to mispell it :music_whistling:.

 

EDIT: Just adding, it's comparable to the sacrilege poor French language suffers from Englishmen and specially Americans.

[Lucas_From_Hell]

Now on-topic, a question about MEInit and non-flyable aircraft.

 

Is it true that, with SFM implemented for all aircraft, we'll be able to fly non-flyable aircraft with the correct behaviour, using the same old MEInit trick?

 

Might bring modding to a new level.

[Arrowhead]

It's early 2010 now!! :pilotfly:

[CyBerkut]

Asparagin, but here's the thing: I guess Pilotasso learned it in Portuguese, and then translated into English. I'm also guessing he learned this some time ago, and age/beer/flight-simulators are famous for rendering your memory useless :D

 

That sounds more like the Heineken uncertainty principle... ;)

[4csNIp]

It's early 2010 now!! :pilotfly:

:music_whistling:

[Wags]

It's early 2010 now!! :pilotfly:

 

Indeed it is and we still plan./hope to release it early this year once it is thoroughly debugged. We will NOT release a know buggy version of FC 2.0.

[Griffin]

Will there be any updates to Su-25 like cannon recoil, aiming sight logic etc. according to the new info and documentation? Referring to the Su-25 pilot thread on Russian side where he (KUSLIN2) has pointed out several differences in real life and FC Su-25?

[EvilBivol-1]

No. There will be some changes/updates, but not as extensive as those.

[Griffin]

Ok, thank you.

[EtherealN]

Griffin, join me in hoping to one day receive a DCS:Frogfoot from Santa. :)

[Boberro]

Will there be any updates to Su-25 like cannon recoil, aiming sight logic etc. according to the new info and documentation? Referring to the Su-25 pilot thread on Russian side where he (KUSLIN2) has pointed out several differences in real life and FC Su-25?

 

Would you like to be so kind and gimme link where are compared both Su25s?

[Boberro]

Griffin, join me in hoping to one day receive a DCS:Frogfoot from Santa. :)

 

It's not a hope. It's our future. :D

[Distiler]

Will a compatibility patch for DCS:Ka-50 be launched the same day (or around)?

[HiJack]

This is the best post ever :D I hawe been waiting for this upgrade. I hope the DCS-A10 will be compatible in the same online environement when it hits us! Cant wait to fly with "live" Ka-50's on the map :D

 

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[Griffin]

Would you like to be so kind and gimme link where are compared both Su25s?

Here:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=39687

 

But, it's not in one post or even on one page, it's all spread out throughout the 180+ pages of the thread.

 

A few of examples:

Cannon recoil; the pilot described it as something like sitting in a metal box that is being hit by a huge hammer at 3000 RPM. It was used as the last weapon when there were no other weapons to use. The recoil sometimes put some avionics out of order and even some buttons could fall off in the cockpit.

Shooting the cannon can be seen at around 1:35 in this video, you only see a couple of seconds as the camera jumps out of place and shuts down:

 

 

The aiming sight reflector had two positions; shooting (up) (rockets, cannon, missiles) and bombing (down). It's supposed to be adjusted manually by the pilot according to the attack. It's not possible to see the pipper if the reflector is in the wrong position.

 

Then there was something about the aiming sight functioning when you are shooting guided missiles. IIRC when you push the trigger to launch the missile, the pipper won't stay in the spot you designated it to but you need to keep it there by maneuvering the aircraft.

 

And also something about laser cooling.

 

Not too biggies. There was no full information about it available when LOMAC was made. We'll see it in DCS: Toad then. :D

 

Сделают, сделают(когда нибудь);)Разработчикии говорили что Су25 и СУ27 скорее всего будут.Да, и с эти прицелом-это достаточно грозный самолёт.

 

They will make, they will (someday) ;). Developers said that Su-25 and Su-27 will likely come. Even with current aiming sight the aircraft is dangerous enough.

Edited January 2, 2010 by Griffin

[GhostDog]

Asparagin, but here's the thing: I guess Pilotasso learned it in Portuguese, and then translated into English. I'm also guessing he learned this some time ago, and age/beer/flight-simulators are famous for rendering your memory useless :D

 

And at last, at least in Brazil, some teachers (not all) usually mispronounce foreign names, specially the most complicated ones, so if you mix language, memory busters and teachers with little knowledge of other languages, you're likely to mispell it :music_whistling:.

 

EDIT: Just adding, it's comparable to the sacrilege poor French language suffers from Englishmen and specially Americans.

 

Hey! Je ressemble á cette remarque :lol:

[GhostDog]

Will a compatibility patch for DCS:Ka-50 be launched the same day (or around)?

 

From the FAQ:

 

Q: Will Flaming Cliffs 2.0 use the same "engine" as Black Shark?

A: It would be more accurate to say that both Flaming Cliffs 2.0 and Black Shark use the same generation of The Fighter Collection Simulation Engine (TFCSE). This was done not only to improve the Flaming Cliffs series in many key areas, but to also allow multi-player compatibility between the two brand series

[Silent Warrior]

Hm... I don't suppose we can get working invulnerability for the Su-25/T with this update as well? I'm having... survivability issues. (Maybe even in-mission toggle?)

[GhostDog]

A big question just came to mind: assuming you have enough bandwidth, how many clients can a combined BS/FC multiplayer session handle?

[104th_Crunch]

Well, a FC server can handle a good 60 players if everyone had a good ping and PC. It will depend a lot on the mission size as well I think. As much as you may see a player lag sometimes, BS and FC have some very good multiplayer code.

[Erdem]

Will there be improved avionics for Su-27, F-15 and such? Or is it just copy-paste from FC?

[159th_Viper]

Will there be improved avionics for Su-27, F-15 and such? Or is it just copy-paste from FC?

 

 

 

Flaming Cliffs 2.0 Upgrade FAQ

 

 

Q: Will all Flaming Cliffs 2.0 flyable aircraft now have the Advance Flight Model (AFM) system?

 

A: The Su-25 and Su-25T most certainly will and will have some performance tweaks. The other aircraft will have the Standard Flight Model (SFM) but will see more realistic performance in regards to such items as climb rates, acceleration, and top speeds.

 

;)

[AustinN360]

Is this true or a horrible mis leading: http://games.gamepressure.com/game_info.asp?ID=14288