Would you seems pay for commercial add ons?

[BKLronin]

I just read a thread about the possibillity of a dynamic campaign generator. It seems that this would be a huge effort to program it and making it commercial could make this possible in any way.

 

What do you think about. I seriously would pay up to 20 eur for one.

[achoice]

I just read a thread about the possibillity of a dynamic campaign generator. It seems that this would be a huge effort to program it and making it commercial could make this possible in any way.

 

What do you think about. I seriously would pay up to 20 eur for one.

 

Me2. Cool idea - community organizes to collect cash to pay for some add on that DCS does not have time/money for. Or perhaps fund a DCS-resource for a limited time.

[Sabre-TLA]

Make the contributions via Paypal and I'm in. LockOnFiles does this and I don't mind contributing to worthwhile causes that support my gaming habit.

[Lucas_From_Hell]

I would pay more for a future DCS title that comes with a DCG included, but I wouldn't pay for it alone.

[isoul]

Personally I would like to have some realistic scenarios before even thinking of a Dynamic Campaign. This is what people have to understand first.

 

When I see people saying that they loved a mission where you fly for 5 minutes to reach target area, you fire a dozen Vikhrs and go for a rearm in-order to return and kill the rest of the targets and accomplish mission, I understand that automated software like a Dynamic Campaign system can't be satisfying for both me and them!

[Duke49th]

I just read a thread about the possibillity of a dynamic campaign generator. It seems that this would be a huge effort to program it and making it commercial could make this possible in any way.

 

What do you think about. I seriously would pay up to 20 eur for one.

 

I offer (min.) 50Ђ. -- Seriously! No Joke.:smilewink:

[herr_LaSk]

If it was a commersial product developed by a professional, third party development team, I would definitely spend money on it, though I'm not so sure about a fan created dynamic campaign mod. Would love to see some sort of third party industry grow up around the DCS series just like the one for Microsoft Flight Simulator.

[Lucas_From_Hell]

Would love to see some sort of third party industry grow up around the DCS series just like the one for Microsoft Flight Simulator.

 

:fear:

 

isoul just put it perfectly about a DCG. It is nice indeed, but there are things way more important and that we need first before even thinking of such feature.

 

I don't think it's really useful, anyway. It will start repeating itself after some time, probably. And missions would be the same old boring stuff: Go-Shoot-Land, over and over again... We need some diversity :)

[SUBS17]

Payware addon aircraft and a DC would be good for DCS although you would need alot of help from ED to make a payware DC addon good. Some features that would make it worthwhile would include:

Dynamic weather

Improved radio coms

MP compatibility and compatibility to fly for both sides on the map

Removal of the client option in the editor - make all aircraft thats flyable available.

There also needs to be changes to DCS GUI as well such as removal of 2 exe for MP and SP, options available ingame. Another good idea is a phased battle type option which is what my Squadron uses in Clan Wars. This is where the GUI in Falcon is very good you base Squadrons on the map and targets and each side can plan its next strike in the scenario so more than one mission can be flown in a battle and each phase can be edited or changed between flights. It basically keeps going until the aircraft available is 0 or the Tactical Engagements goals are met.:thumbup:

[Kurtz]

I think most ppl that are interested in multiplay would pay for a 3rd party dynamic campaign engine the likes of EECH.

 

Another point worth noting is that DCS lacks an immersion factor because there is no live radio comms. For example in LB2 there was no dynamic campaign but there was usually if I remember correctly up to 4 choices when joining a mission. Regardless of which mission you selected the others would also progress and offer live comms feed. I use the "radio chatter" mod to compensate for this a little, but its not ideal.

 

With the current systems and custom missions to date generally all helicopters tend to have the same objective, and generally its an attrition mission involving static targets.

 

So im all for dynamic campaigns with a constant comms feed or radio chatter.

[shu77]

I would pay for it if it were professionally supported.

Look at Aeyes pits for falcon, thats a quality product. Ditto lockonfiles. As opposed to Fighter Ops.... :(

[Deigs]

I would pay for it.

 

(edit: ...well, not ALL of it)

[Krippz]

I spent some piggy bank money on FSX so yes I would pay for commercial add ons lol.

[muamshai]

sure, if done professionally

[EtherealN]

There also needs to be changes to DCS GUI as well such as removal of 2 exe for MP and SP, options available ingame.

 

Both SP and MP use the same exe - dcs.exe. Launcher.exe is what it's name implies and is not necessary for single-player. (If you want you could technically make your own launcher - like DCSMax has the capability.)

 

On the other points you have made, you need to note that a DC is not necessarily the same as a persistent world (like EECH has, f.ex). Nothing stops a mission generator from making realistic changes to weather (and times) between missions generated.

 

But yes, if you want a persistent world dynamic campaign, that would require big changes to the engine. A dynamic campaign itself can be done right now though, if someone has the time and resources - the drawback though would be that you'd have to use a separate launcher.

[SUBS17]

Both SP and MP use the same exe - dcs.exe. Launcher.exe is what it's name implies and is not necessary for single-player. (If you want you could technically make your own launcher - like DCSMax has the capability.)

 

 

Its quite stupid to have to exit MP and start SP just to make a change in the options menu and thats part of my point. DCS Black Shark is a good sim but ED needs to change this stuff to make it better.

[Lucas_From_Hell]

SUBS17, what settings do you need to change so often to make this a big problem?

 

I haven't touched the options menu in more than two weeks, for example. I don't think this is worth changing, but it's only my opinion, of course :)

[isoul]

Its quite stupid to have to exit MP and start SP just to make a change in the options menu and thats part of my point. DCS Black Shark is a good sim but ED needs to change this stuff to make it better.

 

Its odd to me you think DCS is a good game but the lack of a more compact GUI design is its black spot. I could make a list with many things that needs to be fixed, redesigned or added before even getting close to think of the GUI and menus!

[GuntiNDDS]

I could see me paying for something like that, yes. But then I am not sure if its really possible to create a quality addon like that just through the lua scripting.

 

How would it connect to the game-UI and stuff like that..?

[Martillo1]

Ahhh, EECH... persistence....

 

I just want to be able to save my mision at any time, and reload it. ¿Is it so difficult?

[SUBS17]

SUBS17, what settings do you need to change so often to make this a big problem?

 

I haven't touched the options menu in more than two weeks, for example. I don't think this is worth changing, but it's only my opinion, of course :)

 

Theres plenty mainly graphic settings or the need to be able to change button assignments on the Hotas. To be honest the GUI needs work hopefully they'll do something about it in future compare it to FSX or F4AF both give you access to control options and there is no requirement for two shortcuts.

[SUBS17]

Its odd to me you think DCS is a good game but the lack of a more compact GUI design is its black spot. I could make a list with many things that needs to be fixed, redesigned or added before even getting close to think of the GUI and menus!

 

Hopefully a future version will allow control of graphics and controller options ingame like FSX. On a positive note the MP is far better than FSX ever could be.:thumbup:

[Grimes]

On a positive note the MP is far better than FSX ever could be.:thumbup:

 

Only cause we get to shoot stuff.

 

 

I would rather have the capability given to the community to make and add our own stuff. (not just terrain) but if a separate game company offered to make a module I would have no trouble supporting them in their endeavor. A little competition never hurt anyone.

[SUBS17]

I was refering to Gamespy on FSX which I have alot of problems with its MP stability is the worst I've seen.:doh:

[EtherealN]

Its quite stupid to have to exit MP and start SP just to make a change in the options menu and thats part of my point. DCS Black Shark is a good sim but ED needs to change this stuff to make it better.

 

Aside from the fact that keeping the routines for that stuff would mean additional resources kept in memory and clocking CPU time that both could have been spent simulating things. ;)

 

Features always comes at a price, and you will typically only have to change those settings once or twice through the life of the product on your computer, so why waste your computer's resources on things that you will only have to tinker with once or twice?