Next DCS (US) Fixed Wing Aircraft Wish List

[mintsauce]

But if they weren't flyable in DCS, they wouldn't be available now, would they? :)

 

That's not quite what I meant (although I think you know that).

 

They wouldn't be available in the sim, but they're out there in the real world, and that would beat me up every time I flew the sim.

 

It would be like driving a banged-up old Ford while everyone around you is driving a Ferrari.

 

Maybe I just need some education and convincing on the C's capabilities. At the moment it just seems like the weaker, smaller brother of the E/F, which doesn't make me feel good about it.

 

edit - so, I read page 225 where ED confirmed that the next aircraft would be a fixed-wing US jet. Guess it's probably going to be the F16, which is no bad thing at all :)

Edited May 12, 2011 by mintsauce

[HerrKaputt]

If it is indeed the F-16 it'll be the first DCS module I might consider buying even if it doesn't have a dynamic campaign.

 

NOTE: Don't flame me, I say "consider buying" because I'm not swimming in money, not to diminish ED's products.

[GGTharos]

No, it doesn't have to be the latest and greatest.

 

I would be delighted with DCS F16, AH64 or F/A18.

 

However, if ED do decide to go with the Apache, then it has to be the Longbow. What's the point in going with anything else? You'll just feel like you're flying an inferior aircraft if it's not a Longbow.

 

Same goes for the F/A18 - it HAS to be the Super Hornet. They're better in every possible way, even down to looks. I couldn't stand to fly a C when I know that the E and F are available.

[159th_Falcon]

I couldn't stand to fly a C when I know that the E and F are available.

The only thing that's available is what ED (or other developer) gives us.

Not that i would mind a super hornet though...

[Shinigami]

Well it seem that the next is F-18, carrier ops to???

 

In the programming point of view if they make a F-18 carrier ops is very possible to get a Mig-29K cause the programing is the same for a Mig or and F the only things thats change is the fly model. SO I'm very happy Mig-29K for FC2 though they don't make it realistic for NOW.

[BKLronin]

if they make a F-18 carrier ops is very possible to get a Mig-29K cause the programing is the same for a Mig

 

That doens´t have much to do with the way ED is choosing theire modules unfortunately.

[Speed]

I couldn't stand to fly a C when I know that the E and F are available.

 

F/A-18C is an awesome jet, it's still and use and will be for some time I believe. Remember, a C model should be able to employ Harpoons, LGBs, SLAMs, HARMs, and Mavericks I believe (do correct if wrong). I don't understand your attitude, though we all have irrational feelings. After all, the Super Hornet is just a piece of crap compared to the F-22 and soon-to-be F-35. How comes you'd be happy with a Super Hornet when the F-22 is "available"?

[Jona33]

Since it's probably going to be a F-16 or 18 next I'll take the F-18. Any variant.

 

EDIT I'm not sure the F-35 is going to be that soon.

[mintsauce]

F/A-18C is an awesome jet, it's still and use and will be for some time I believe. Remember, a C model should be able to employ Harpoons, LGBs, SLAMs, HARMs, and Mavericks I believe (do correct if wrong). I don't understand your attitude, though we all have irrational feelings. After all, the Super Hornet is just a piece of crap compared to the F-22 and soon-to-be F-35. How comes you'd be happy with a Super Hornet when the F-22 is "available"?

 

That's fine, you don't understand my opinion. Maybe I can try explaining again.

 

All I'm saying is, if you're going to do an F/A18 sim, you might as well do the Super Hornet, otherwise people are going to feel short changed. It's like doing an F15 sim and only including the F15C when everyone wants to fly the F15E Strike Eagle.

 

I'm not talking about other jets, that's a different kettle of fish. I honestly don't care which aircraft ED choose, as long as they include the latest and best variant of it. What can I say, I like to have the best of everything.

[Nate--IRL--]

That's fine, you don't understand my opinion. Maybe I can try explaining again.

 

All I'm saying is, if you're going to do an F/A18 sim, you might as well do the Super Hornet, otherwise people are going to feel short changed. It's like doing an F15 sim and only including the F15C when everyone wants to fly the F15E Strike Eagle.

 

I'm not talking about other jets, that's a different kettle of fish. I honestly don't care which aircraft ED choose, as long as they include the latest and best variant of it. What can I say, I like to have the best of everything.

 

Ah but the problem is getting the information required to model the aircraft properly, the newer the aircraft - the more necessary information is classified.

 

Nate

[Tracer2k]

I would be delighted with DCS F16, AH64 or F/A18.

 

However, if ED do decide to go with the Apache, then it has to be the Longbow. What's the point in going with anything else? You'll just feel like you're flying an inferior aircraft if it's not a Longbow.

 

Same goes for the F/A18 - it HAS to be the Super Hornet. They're better in every possible way, even down to looks. I couldn't stand to fly a C when I know that the E and F are available.

 

Longbow is too classified

[Ryback]

Since it's probably going to be a F-16 or 18 next I'll take the F-18. Any variant.

 

EDIT I'm not sure the F-35 is going to be that soon.

 

F-16 is F-18C is ok too.. As long as A/A + A/G is ok .. I wish ED gives a statement soon.. BTW check this:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=516614&postcount=1

 

It's quite a knowledge for the year 2008.. F-18C stopped?:P

[Frostiken]

F/A-18C is an awesome jet, it's still and use and will be for some time I believe. Remember, a C model should be able to employ Harpoons, LGBs, SLAMs, HARMs, and Mavericks I believe (do correct if wrong). I don't understand your attitude, though we all have irrational feelings. After all, the Super Hornet is just a piece of crap compared to the F-22 and soon-to-be F-35. How comes you'd be happy with a Super Hornet when the F-22 is "available"?

 

Probably because the F/A-18C has a laughably tiny fuel and payload capacity.

Edited May 13, 2011 by Frostiken

[Cupra]

F-16C Blk60 would be nice too :D

[Shinigami]

That doens´t have much to do with the way ED is choosing theire modules unfortunately.

 

Well I'm not talking of the next module I'm just talking about an upgrade for.

[HerrKaputt]

F-16 is F-18C is ok too.. As long as A/A + A/G is ok .. I wish ED gives a statement soon.. BTW check this:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=516614&postcount=1

 

It's quite a knowledge for the year 2008.. F-18C stopped?:P

 

Where did that information come from? Sounds like pure speculation... and outdated too (see the date of the posts).

[Jona33]

Know what you mean.

[Shinigami]

you lost me with that

[Ryback]

Where did that information come from? Sounds like pure speculation... and outdated too (see the date of the posts).

 

well i have no idea where it did come from. Of course I know it was outdated that's why i wrote it and made a smile:"It's quite a knowledge for the year 2008.. F-18C stopped?"

Sounds like speculation yes..But not pure..Somehow whoever wrote this, back in 2008 sounds like had a clue.. No?

[Jona33]

Somehow whoever wrote this, back in 2008 sounds like had a clue.. No?

 

That sounded like a conspiracy theory

[GGTharos]

Pure speculation.

 

well i have no idea where it did come from. Of course I know it was outdated that's why i wrote it and made a smile:"It's quite a knowledge for the year 2008.. F-18C stopped?"

Sounds like speculation yes..But not pure..Somehow whoever wrote this, back in 2008 sounds like had a clue.. No?

[c84]

Mig-23MLD

[BKLronin]

Mig-23MLD

 

nope

[Silver_Dragon]

Some interesting aircraft/helos

 

SuperEttendart

 

Raffale M

 

SA316B Aloette 3

 

Mirage F1CR

[Dudikoff]

Yep, that's what us non-reals pilot would think. Not even close. Neither the F-16 or F-18 can fly the F-15E's deep penetration conventional or nuclear mission. The F-15E can't fly the SEAD mission.

 

For the most part, the F-18 is still reasonably unique in the anti-ship mission.

 

IMHO, those differences don't qualify as "not even close" as I did say *roughly* the same (which is a very relative term) and we *are* talking from a PC flight sim perspective which is still a game where missions and taskings usually represent only short ranged tactical missions (e.g. my guess would be that most of the players don't have enough free time to play a 5 hour deep interdiction mission, but would rather have its thrills compressed to one hour at most, etc.).

 

So, I was trying to point put that for an average end-user in current DCS world, flying most of the mission types with the later versions of these jets will end up with a rather similar experience of pushing the same buttons, looking at very similar MFDs and HUDs, using very similar target aquisition procedures, a lot of the same weapons, etc. except that the F/A-18s come with the extra flavour of carrier operations. But, as I said earlier, I still hope it would be an F-15E out of these three as the most charismatic one (due to its being based on a more capable BVR A2A platform from the start and due to its payload advantages).