Cali Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) I'm pretty sure it's 10 minutes, not 15. UP TO 10 minutes. ;) I use to work on the F-16 and that system for 12 years, I remember what the TO says, what's your source? I said around 15 minutes so it could be less or more, that's if it uses the fuel, now if we talk about bleed air....that's a different story. Edited September 3, 2011 by Cali i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I use to work on the F-16 and that system for 12 years, I remember what the TO says, what's your source? I said around 15 minutes so it could be less or more, that's if it uses the fuel, now if we talk about bleed air....that's a different story. F-16C BLK 50 -1 (Sect 1 Pg 68 ) states that operating on Hydrazine only the system's operating time is around 10 mins. No doubt engine bleed air would greatly increase that time, but if you have an engine failure you won't have bleed air. Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) F-16C BLK 50 -1 (Sect 1 Pg 68 ) states that operating on Hydrazine only the system's operating time is around 10 mins. No doubt engine bleed air would greatly increase that time, but if you have an engine failure you won't have bleed air. I worked on Blk 25/40/42, yep your right that TO stats around 10 minutes, but I have heard longer then that. I would have to call back and see what our TO says about it, the GS and maybe FI. Edited September 3, 2011 by Cali i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPTIDE Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 When you're swinging in the wind you'd be crying 'I shoulda joined the navy. At least they have 2 engines.' 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPTIDE Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Some random images from screenshots folder :D Is that transport on fire? LMAO. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 When you're swinging in the wind you'd be crying 'I shoulda joined the navy. At least they have 2 engines.' ....and twin engine jets are perfectly fine....keep telling yourself that. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPTIDE Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 ....and twin engine jets are perfectly fine....keep telling yourself that. F-16 + birdstrike = fail F-15 + birdstrike = Damn, I'll be late for the game. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 F-16 + birdstrike = fail F-15 + birdstrike = Damn, I'll be late for the game. Not true, depends on where the bird hits. Both jets could go down with one well timed bird hit. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPTIDE Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Not true, depends on where the bird hits. Both jets could go down with one well timed bird hit. It is true. We're talking about the sim. The DCS world. Put a single engine F-16 in there and birdstrike = fail. All the time. All day. Everyday. No one wants to crash and loose a jet after a birdstrike in the sim. They WILL with DCS: F-16. They WILL crash when a simple manpad knocks out one engine or a little bit of 23mm... IN DCS A-10C or FC2.0, loosing an engine means I'll be late for the game. Just like I said. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron886 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Not true, depends on where the bird hits. Both jets could go down with one well timed bird hit. Wait... don't stop now! Do explain how one bird can FOD or disable both engines! (Keeping in mind the engines are typically the most flight-critical portion of the airframe that a bird could ruin.) There IS a reason why many jets employ multiple engines when they could do the same job with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPTIDE Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 UNless of course he's referring to the Quantum mechanical aspect of it where there is an infinitesimally small chance that the same bird could enter the two inlets at the same time. :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Wait... don't stop now! Do explain how one bird can FOD or disable both engines! (Keeping in mind the engines are typically the most flight-critical portion of the airframe that a bird could ruin.) There IS a reason why many jets employ multiple engines when they could do the same job with one. I'm not talking about the engine.... i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron886 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Maybe the canopy? (And the HUD combiner glass that's usually designed to shrug off a birdstrike?) :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Usually....is the key word. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 It is true. We're talking about the sim. The DCS world. Put a single engine F-16 in there and birdstrike = fail. All the time. All day. Everyday. No one wants to crash and loose a jet after a birdstrike in the sim. They WILL with DCS: F-16. They WILL crash when a simple manpad knocks out one engine or a little bit of 23mm... Somebody call the Wambulance... 1 i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_X Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 i modified the nose of my f-16, by some blueprints i made myself, and those are accurate. about the precise3dmodelling f-16 i still believe is not accurate. i can prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combatace Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 UNless of course he's referring to the Quantum mechanical aspect of it where there is an infinitesimally small chance that the same bird could enter the two inlets at the same time. :D Or the bird strikes the tip nose of F-15 or any twin engine jet splits into two and each half enters one engine. Hmmmm now thats a possibility to think. To support my models please donate to paypal ID: hp.2084@gmail.com https://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/hero2084?referral=hero2084 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HungaroJET Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Nice SSs Official Texture Master :thumbup: :smilewink: Atop the midnight tarmac, a metal beast awaits. To be flown below the radar, to bring the enemy his fate. HAVE A BANDIT DAY ! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "When I'm working on a problem, I never think about beauty. I think only how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong." - R. Buckminster Fuller (1895 - 1983), American Architect, Author, Designer, Inventor, and Futurist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flаnker Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Vipers and Falcons everywhere :cry: I dont understand why E.D. is not coming up with a new F-16.EDM model. :shocking: They (or presice3dmodelling guys ? ) made a new E-2D model ( which looks like same in DCS & in P3DM.com) but the "most famous fighter":F-16 still missing from the DCS-new-EDM-model inventory ! BTW: 3D modellers of E.D. ~= 3D modellers of P3DM.com ? ? ? :unsure: F-16 By ED;) Мои авиафото Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Was going to post that pic myself, thanks Flanker. As you can see, ED's F-16 is very accurate already. ;) i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 trying out a mission [ WIP ] might change it to night time... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
power5 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 When you're swinging in the wind you'd be crying 'I shoulda joined the navy. At least they have 2 engines.' But then you would be flying a damn F18. :badmood: :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Aaron i7 2600k@4.4ghz, GTX1060-6gb, 16gb DDR3, T16000m, Track IR5 BS2-A10C-UH1-FC3-M2000-F18C-A4E-F14B-BF109 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
power5 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 What happened to your paint scheme? Your wreckage is silver but you went down as a green A10. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Aaron i7 2600k@4.4ghz, GTX1060-6gb, 16gb DDR3, T16000m, Track IR5 BS2-A10C-UH1-FC3-M2000-F18C-A4E-F14B-BF109 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRG-Vampire Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 F-16 By ED;) Eternal question: WHEN ? I can't see wingtip pylon (any pylons) - so it looks like just a nice Hi-Res drawing to me, not a serious 3D model :( just like these: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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