Any real Hog drivers here?

[Callsign.Vega]

I think most pilots get tired of simulators. Todays military pilots spend so much time in simulators it kind of get's to you. I train new flight school students in the UH-60 Blackhawk and we spend a ton of time in 5-million dollar full motion simulators. That don't fly like the real thing.

[Lt.Seahawk]

Yeah I got some more but Im afraid of all this classified stuff :smilewink:

[Avilator]

Okay, here's one that probably isn't classified. I'm building a model of the HUD area. Can anyone take pictures that show the pattern of the side braces and the angle at which the glareshield drops from the top of the panel?

[StageFright]

My cousin in-law is a Hog pilot, though I have never met him and he is on his second or third tour in the desert, I hope to get his opinion if he visits. I'm a F-22 crew chief at Langley for the Virginia Air Guard and I did get a ride in a F-16C block 30 once, that was a blast but I still need to get my HUD tape on DVD. Its nice to work on jets, then hop in the seat at home and blow stuff up. Couple pictures below, one of me (standing) in front of 4082 (my jet) that we did for an air national guard calender, the motivational part was added later but one of our outstanding active duty counterparts. And the other is my jet painted up like a blue nose bastard of Bodney. There making a diecast model of it in the near future (my name included as the Dedicated Crew Chief :thumbup:) If anyone is interested in getting one just PM me and ill send you the link.

[SimFreak]

Due to security reasons, not many can say what they do...a hug pilot is especially on that list.

 

Picture of me almost a year ago...

[Headspace]

Due to security reasons, not many can say what they do...a hug pilot is especially on that list.

You know, I don't really buy that. In fact, if you take a look at some of the websites and groups run by former members of the special forces community (I believe one of them is called "stolen valor," or something along those lines), they say that one of the primary indicators that someone's posing as someone they aren't is that they say they "can't discuss" who they are/what they do/etc. That's not to say that OPSEC related details of specific events, times, places, facts, and so forth aren't sometimes secret, but a person's job? The A-10's existence isn't classified. Someone here feel free to correct me, but I've never heard of anyone being prohibited from discussing what their MOS *is*.

 

I think the reality is something along the lines of what they say about real life (and the military especially) making a lot of stuff that might seem like it would be fun, not fun. My 2c.

 

Plus a simulator just doesn't have the ability to duplicate that crushing level of fatigue you get from flying *a lot*, especially when you've not done it in awhile. If only.

[Deadman]

Bing

[vrv]

Fighter Pilots? OPSEC? Hahaha sure

[SKULLBANGER]

re: jctrnacty

 

OK Ok question for skullbanger :-)

 

I just wanna know if the startup sequence in DCS is 10 % or 50% or 90% realistic ?

 

And what about the weapons checklists if you compare them to real life counterpart?

 

 

The items are correct but they are out of sequence when compared to our check-lists. Its pretty close though.

[StageFright]

The only time a fighter pilot ever actually lies about being a fighter pilot is when there trying to pick up on chics because they never believe them. Most of the time they say there cops or some crap and then when they actually go out on a date they tell them the trust....and then they get laid....:bounce:

[hassata]

Fighter Pilots? OPSEC? Hahaha sure

 

:D

[gear_monkey]

I think most pilots get tired of simulators. Todays military pilots spend so much time in simulators it kind of get's to you. I train new flight school students in the UH-60 Blackhawk and we spend a ton of time in 5-million dollar full motion simulators. That don't fly like the real thing.

 

most people.....pc simmers.....don't realize this very thing.

 

I spent over 7 years as an instructor pilot at an airline teaching in Level D (most realistic) simulators. These sims always cost more than the actual aircraft and yet they still can only come so close to the real thing.

 

If I had a penny for everytime I have said, "This isn't how the actual airplane works/feels" or had an aircrew turn around and say, "Does the real airplane do this?" I'd be a rich man.

 

When I was big into Falcon4 several years ago, I let a real f-16 pilot fly it on my pc and while he said the systems were really close, the overall flight model and "feel" of the simulator didn't impress him.

 

Of course the falcon community scewered me for bringing that up...

[ratherbegliding]

Hey, I can't comment on what it's like to fly a jet but why do RL fighter pilot's NOT play pc sims?

 

I was a RL glider pilot but stopped when I had kids. A few years ago I loaded up FSX with add on scenery for a place I actually flew at with a payware glider very similar to my old bird.

 

The sounds in the cockpit were great. I had TrackIR so it was reasonably immersive. BUT . . . . . . it was like I was only getting maybe 20% of the real experience.

:(

 

After about an hour I stopped playing.

 

I imagine it's the same for RL fighter pilots.

 

RBG

[deltatango]

Pretty sure 'Alice' is a member of this (and many other) forum. :pirate:

 

http://www.research.msstate.edu/information/pdfs/cyber_security.pdf

 

Please - Enjoy DCS. Watch what you post about yourself.

 

 

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[hassata]

And by Alice, they really mean Bao Yu :D. Sadly, that little write up is probably being taught to promising young men and women in an introductory course out in the woods or desert somewhere.

 

Edit: The write-up also left out the 8-Ball and prostitute session, home video no extra charge.

Edited October 24, 2010 by hassata

[StrongHarm]

Pretty sure 'Alice' is a member of this (and many other) forum. :pirate:

 

http://www.research.msstate.edu/information/pdfs/cyber_security.pdf

 

Please - Enjoy DCS. Watch what you post about yourself.

 

 

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Everyone +1 this man for providing a much needed reminder.. deleted my post.

[Callsign.Vega]

most people.....pc simmers.....don't realize this very thing.

 

I spent over 7 years as an instructor pilot at an airline teaching in Level D (most realistic) simulators. These sims always cost more than the actual aircraft and yet they still can only come so close to the real thing.

 

If I had a penny for everytime I have said, "This isn't how the actual airplane works/feels" or had an aircrew turn around and say, "Does the real airplane do this?" I'd be a rich man.

 

When I was big into Falcon4 several years ago, I let a real f-16 pilot fly it on my pc and while he said the systems were really close, the overall flight model and "feel" of the simulator didn't impress him.

 

Of course the falcon community scewered me for bringing that up...

 

As I have thousands of hours in the UH-60, Kiowa and Bell 206, I wouldn't actually want to fly any of those in a simulator. I do like to change it up and sim on the fixed wing side once and a while though.

 

I've had KA-50 on my computer now for a couple of years and never really played it. I fly real helicopters every day and I guess it would be more of the same. :joystick: I do look forward to getting my Warthog HOTAS and really trying out the A-10C.

 

It is kinda cool that the A-10C and the UH-60 actually have some radios and avionics in common, makes learning the A-10C that much easier!

[kylania]

Pretty sure 'Alice' is a member of this (and many other) forum. :pirate:

 

The only reason that worked on Chris was because he went to a convention instead of staying home playing DCS: A-10C! :)

[J3ff]

To me, using a simulator for the real pilots, you could practice some maneuvers up to an extent without any re-percussion I would think? I am sure there are quite a few things you are not allowed to do when flying a real one, but simulator you can do anything you want when your at home with A-10C.

[Lt.Seahawk]

Fighter Pilots? OPSEC? Hahaha sure

 

Keep on laughing but pilots sometimes have a OPSEC status, when they are deployed in a warzone for example.

[Avilator]

Okay, here's one that probably isn't classified. I'm building a model of the HUD area. Can anyone take pictures that show the pattern of the side braces and the angle at which the glareshield drops from the top of the panel?

Anyone?

[leafer]

Hello, Alice! :D

[Kaiza]

LOL! :megalol:

[Paco]

I'm an ex Navy pilot and have over 7000 hrs of flight time. I fly flight sims all the time but realize they are not the same thing. Some pilots will never touch a PC sim and others (like me) it's a hobby.

 

Just my two cents.

[Deadman]

I have done the same thing your doing asking for information on all kind of forms. I have never received any information except for one time from another builder. I finally bought some high priced manuals off of the net there just is not a site or people willing to freely share information on the hog or its thirty year old frame.Its just the way it is:smilewink:

 

 

 

Anyone?