Mule Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Just changed my pc a bit and re formatted. Downloaded the latest version of A10C. There was no obvious option to install a 64 bit version so im just amusing it has. Am i right ? or do i need to do anything? Fighter Pilot Podcast.
andysim Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 yes when you install DCS-a10c select the 32bit version. Confusingly the 32bit means 64bit windows
KillaALF Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Do you have a 64bit OS? If yes, then you don't have to do anything, the 64bit version is installed by default. If you have a 32bit OS you also don't have to do anything as only the 32bit version will be installed. The only time you have to do anything is if you want to have the 32bit version installed on an 64bit OS - then you have to tick a box when prompted during the installation.
Mule Posted May 8, 2011 Author Posted May 8, 2011 Do you have a 64bit OS? If yes, then you don't have to do anything, the 64bit version is installed by default. If you have a 32bit OS you also don't have to do anything as only the 32bit version will be installed. The only time you have to do anything is if you want to have the 32bit version installed on an 64bit OS - then you have to tick a box when prompted during the installation. Thanks :thumbup: just out of interest why would you want to install a 32bit version on a 64bit OS? Fighter Pilot Podcast.
MTFDarkEagle Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 I believe freetrack doesn't support 64bit, but other than that, I can't think of any reason. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Scratchy Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 I'd wager you don't want to. I did by mistake the 1st time I installed and ended up confused as to which EXE to run. I'm better now. :) The 64 bit goes into the Program Files directory; not the Program Files(x86) directory. Yes, this was another mistake I made the 1st install. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Intel i7-8700K @4.9Ghz | 32Gb memory DDR4 | Evga GTX 1080ti | Saitek Eclipse keyboard | Logitech Mx518 | CH Fighterstick, Pro Throttle/Pedales | TIr5 | Win10 x64 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
NoJoe Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 yes when you install DCS-a10c select the 32bit version. Confusingly the 32bit means 64bit windows It actually installs 64 bit by default. Selecting the 32 bit option tells the installer to install the 32 bit executables in addition to the 64 bit exes. --NoJoe
Cibit Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 I'd wager you don't want to. I did by mistake the 1st time I installed and ended up confused as to which EXE to run. I'm better now. :) The 64 bit goes into the Program Files directory; not the Program Files(x86) directory. Yes, this was another mistake I made the 1st install. Scratchy I dont know if this is fixed but during beta's we where advised not to put it into default Program files folder but create a folder directly to the root of the drive E.G "S:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS A-10C" i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB
MTFDarkEagle Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Not necessarilly the root of the drive, but any other folder than program files. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Scratchy Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Interesting... I've not had any issues. Perhaps this was a beta issue only? I'm loving it :pilotfly: I generally get 'done' with a sim after a few dozen hours. With A-10, there's no end in sight. I'm even thinking for selling some blood so I can get a HOTAS WH. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Intel i7-8700K @4.9Ghz | 32Gb memory DDR4 | Evga GTX 1080ti | Saitek Eclipse keyboard | Logitech Mx518 | CH Fighterstick, Pro Throttle/Pedales | TIr5 | Win10 x64 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Sinky Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Scratchy I dont know if this is fixed but during beta's we where advised not to put it into default Program files folder but create a folder directly to the root of the drive E.G "S:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS A-10C" Only time I've seen that cause a problem is if your trying to add it as a non-steam game and your using UAC then it will only work outside of program files. Next time I reinstall I'll be placing it like you explained though. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ASUS M4A785D-M Pro | XFX 650W XXX | AMD Phenom II X4 B55 Black Edition 3.2ghz | 4GB Corsair XMS2 DHX 800mhz | XFX HD 5770 1GB @ 850/1200 | Windows 7 64bit | Logitech G35 | Logitech Mx518 | TrackIR 4 My TrackIR Profile ( Speed 1.2 / Smooth 30 ) - Right click & save as.
Frostiken Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Anyone installing anything into the C: drive's 'program files' needs to be sent to computer user's re-education camp. Partitions are your FRIEND! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
b101uk Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Anyone installing anything into the C: drive's 'program files' needs to be sent to computer user's re-education camp. Partitions are your FRIEND! Err no, as not all partitions are equal, some are slow as they by default don’t get put at the outside of the platters like primary partitions, this slows things down because if “windows” and the pagefile is in the primary partition and your games/programs are in the secondary inner partitions means the heads have to move further to read data from the “game files” (wile playing) and read and write to the page file (if used) and because the circumference of the tracks is shorter on the inside of the platters and the spin at a set speed the data throughput is lower. (this type of partition is better for file storage as you can always format the primary partition without effect on the secondary) What you should say is make a nominal cost upgrade and buy a second HDD to put your games on and where applicable (IDE) have it on IDE2 as master wile your main drive is on IDE1 as master. ;)
WheelChair Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 Out of curiousity why did the say not to install into the straight program files? Thanx, Wheels PS. You're going to need some of your relative's blood as well to afford it but it is awesome when you get it and use it in A-10C - made for each other! W__
Scratchy Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 Anyone installing anything into the C: drive's 'program files' needs to be sent to computer user's re-education camp. Partitions are your FRIEND! Your opinion is noted. For the record, there is a reason for the different Program Files directories. The following link explains the differences. Not necessarily definitive, but the best single-source explanation I could find. In short, 64 bit programs should be installed under the Program Files directory. Do some installations have trouble with this? Sure. But, ED for one, got it straightened out and it works as it should. So, to say you should never install programs under the Program Files directory or have your head examined is not correct. 1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Intel i7-8700K @4.9Ghz | 32Gb memory DDR4 | Evga GTX 1080ti | Saitek Eclipse keyboard | Logitech Mx518 | CH Fighterstick, Pro Throttle/Pedales | TIr5 | Win10 x64 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
rextar Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 Your opinion is noted. For the record, there is a reason for the different Program Files directories. The following link explains the differences. Not necessarily definitive, but the best single-source explanation I could find. In short, 64 bit programs should be installed under the Program Files directory. Do some installations have trouble with this? Sure. But, ED for one, got it straightened out and it works as it should. So, to say you should never install programs under the Program Files directory or have your head examined is not correct. Above is true,installing to partition is not a problem. Intel i5 3.2 ghz 8 GB crucial ram gtx 660 superclocked 2gb 500watt corsair psu win7 64bit extreme pro track ir5 Turtle beach x12
112th_Rossi Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 There is zero benefit installing to a partition. Nor is there any difference installing to Program files or any other folder.
winz Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 There is a difference in installing into Program Files. Old ED products (FC 2.0, BS) used config files located directly in installation folder. And windows prohibits modification of Program Files by any other user than admin, so you had to run FC 2.0 and BS with adming rights when they were installed in program files. AFAIK DCS A10 uses the documents&settings to store config. The Valley A-10C Version Revanche for FC 3
112th_Rossi Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 Depends on what OS. By default Vista and Windows 7 prohibit modification to the C: drive and Program Files directory. You need to lower your UAC settings in order to modify them. But as a general rule there should be no difference where you install if you're looking for a performance boost, which is how I read it. But yes, you should run the game as Admin. Can't see why you wouldn't anyway. :)
vortex360 Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 Just changed my pc a bit and re formatted. Downloaded the latest version of A10C. There was no obvious option to install a 64 bit version so im just amusing it has. Am i right ? or do i need to do anything? After installation one can tell it is 64 bit because the program folder will be in Program Files, instead of Program Files (x86).
BlackRazor Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 But yes, you should run the game as Admin. Can't see why you wouldn't anyway. :) The question is why would you ? Admin privileges are reserved to programs that need to interact with the OS at a specific level, can't see why games should be run with admin privileges. If you are using admin privileges to run normal software then you can just as simply disable UAC since you are defeating the purpose anyway.
112th_Rossi Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 Hmm no. Even if you're admin on Windows 7 or Vista, UAC is still in effect. Also plenty of PCs only have a single user, which is admin by default. This is why UAC was introduced. While UAC is active (dependent on its level), certain parts of the OS is restricted. This is M$ attempt at keeping the OS clean and tidy. Any modern application written today should be aware of this, which why plenty of games put their config files in the user profile directory. I was referring to DCS A10C, which seems to have issues while not running as admin?
USAF77 Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 Im just wondering but I install my games into a separate C/games folder and not directly into Programs. I had assumed since there is no compatability settings for either 32 or 64 bit the program by default ran at 64 bit. However i do wonder about the slow loading times on such a fast machine. Am I running 64 bit by default ? Thank you. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Lead, Follow, or get out of the way"
Cibit Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 After installation one can tell it is 64 bit because the program folder will be in Program Files, instead of Program Files (x86). Not if you installed it as described in the previous posts. You did read them right:thumbup: i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB
112th_Rossi Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 Im just wondering but I install my games into a separate C/games folder and not directly into Programs. I had assumed since there is no compatability settings for either 32 or 64 bit the program by default ran at 64 bit. However i do wonder about the slow loading times on such a fast machine. Am I running 64 bit by default ? Thank you. Yes. Installation creates two sets of icons if you select 32-bit. One for 64 other for 32.
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