KLR Rico Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 Thanks for finding that link. +1'd it i5-4670K@4.5GHz / 16 GB RAM / SSD / GTX1080 Rift CV1 / G-seat / modded FFB HOTAS
wasyl00 Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) Oculus Rift and DCS World Discussion Boys at reddit did some testing with Elite Dangerous. Below is the gif comparison of magnified part of the screens (pic through the lens). It pretty much confirms the theory the Rift sacrifices a bit FOV for the benefit of clarity and sharpness. http://m.imgur.com/Pcjor02?r Disclaimer: I posted these for the sake of discussion and not to inflate recent tensions in this thread. Lets chill and enjoy VR :) Edited April 10, 2016 by wasyl00 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 10 Pro x64, Asus PG279Q, i7-6700K, Nvidia GTX1080TI, 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD, TM Warthog, Saitek Combat Pro Rudder Pedals, TIR5+Trackclip
DerekSpeare Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 Thx, Wasy! I love that baby in your avatar! Mine are grown...such great days when they are little :) That image is a really good one. It says a lot! Derek "BoxxMann" Speare derekspearedesigns.com 25,000+ Gaming Enthusiasts Trust DSD Components to Perform! i7-11700k 4.9g | RTX3080ti (finally!)| 64gb Ram | 2TB NVME PCIE4| Reverb G1 | CH Pro Throt/Fighterstick Pro | 4 DSD Boxes Falcon XT/AT/3.0/4.0 | LB2 | DCS | LOMAC Been Flight Simming Since 1988! Useful VR settings and tips for DCS HERE
Lobinjaevel Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 How do you guys get DCS to work? I'm trying Open Beta and the "Oculus Home" page just keeps on restarting. I have changed it to "Allow Unknown sources", but I must have missed something else. DCS is normal with auto-detect Rift on, but I't wont boot in VR. I tried to find the answer in the last 20 pages, so sorry if I missed it. Cheers, Robin
wasyl00 Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 Thx, Wasy! I love that baby in your avatar! Mine are grown...such great days when they are little :) Thanks! My son is already infected with sim bug. lol [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 10 Pro x64, Asus PG279Q, i7-6700K, Nvidia GTX1080TI, 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD, TM Warthog, Saitek Combat Pro Rudder Pedals, TIR5+Trackclip
DerekSpeare Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) I'm thinking that developers should work - or could work - on rendering optimization to sharpen text and other objects to make them more visible and clear in VR. It's my hunch that more work can be done to sharpen the text font and that some fonts may be more clear in VR than others. Sure, I'm FOR accuracy, but not at the cost of fidelity when it comes to minor matters like this. How do you guys get DCS to work? I'm trying Open Beta and the "Oculus Home" page just keeps on restarting. I have changed it to "Allow Unknown sources", but I must have missed something else. DCS is normal with auto-detect Rift on, but I't wont boot in VR. I tried to find the answer in the last 20 pages, so sorry if I missed it. Cheers, Robin You need the latest updates to v1.5.3 (beta?) only - v2 is not yet. Make sure your autodetect oculus is checked. dunno. It starts automatically. Thanks! My son is already infected with sim bug. lol My son used to grab the racing wheel I had at the time when he was two, insisting, "drive...drive...drive...DAD...drive!!!" He's sit on my lap and fly, drive and FPS with me. Good times! Edited April 10, 2016 by DerekSpeare Derek "BoxxMann" Speare derekspearedesigns.com 25,000+ Gaming Enthusiasts Trust DSD Components to Perform! i7-11700k 4.9g | RTX3080ti (finally!)| 64gb Ram | 2TB NVME PCIE4| Reverb G1 | CH Pro Throt/Fighterstick Pro | 4 DSD Boxes Falcon XT/AT/3.0/4.0 | LB2 | DCS | LOMAC Been Flight Simming Since 1988! Useful VR settings and tips for DCS HERE
Lobinjaevel Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 You need the latest updates to v1.5.3... Strange, I've got the latest update. I'll try to reinstall stuff then, must've missed something. Thanks for the help anyway!
Markeebo Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 I'm in! Callsign Fisheye :lol: LMAO!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
rjetster1 Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) I leave Oculus Home open while running in DCS... mandatory! Edited April 10, 2016 by rjetster1
DerekSpeare Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 Oculus Home opens automatically when you start any VR program that uses the latest runtimes. You have to leave it open. Closing it closes the VR application. Derek "BoxxMann" Speare derekspearedesigns.com 25,000+ Gaming Enthusiasts Trust DSD Components to Perform! i7-11700k 4.9g | RTX3080ti (finally!)| 64gb Ram | 2TB NVME PCIE4| Reverb G1 | CH Pro Throt/Fighterstick Pro | 4 DSD Boxes Falcon XT/AT/3.0/4.0 | LB2 | DCS | LOMAC Been Flight Simming Since 1988! Useful VR settings and tips for DCS HERE
Chivas Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 I'm obviously a RIFT guy initially but I really appreciate Sentry's posts because he is genuinely invested in VR and helping people get their Vive working properly. For the "particular person" you might consider adding them to your ignore list. "Go to users profile, under user list, choose add to ignore list." There are folks that post in this thread that aren't buying VR and for some reason are just out to troll. I've added every single one to my ignore list and suddenly this thread is a joy to read every day. :) I don't have a problem with Sentry, and he's not the "particular person" I was talking about. I could have put that particular person on ignore, but they he would have gotten away with posting crap that those less familiar with VR might use in their choice of a VR headset. I have no problem with people buying the Vive, as its a very good VR headset. IMHO the Rift is a better choice for flight sims, but I may have to buy a Vive myself depending the max IPD adjustment of these units.
Lobinjaevel Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 Got it working now, updated my Geforce drivers and restarted again, seemed to do the trick. Incredible improvement in the DK2, time warp makes wonders!
rjetster1 Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) Yep agree!! DK2 works really well in 1.3 ... looks much better! Edited April 10, 2016 by rjetster1
SkateZilla Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 Yeah, on my server box, if I close Oculus Store while running an App it causes all sorts of App Crashes.. lol. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
aaron886 Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 Some great content in this thread, thank you guys for scouring the internet so I don't have to! As previously posted, this is very illuminating for sim folks: Pretty critical difference!
Warthog_Farmer Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 I'd take that gif with a pinch of salt personally. I take photos through the CV1 lens and it looks loads better on the phone screen after its finished with it. I can have the phone take both of those photos off the CV1 if I wanted to... I'd like to try a Vive as I still believe the rift is deliberately softened in the middle of the lens to reduce SDE (which is pretty critical for simmers).Luckily DCS is still playable with it but could have been even better! CV1 is pretty good though and I guess Vive is pretty good too. Just buy whatever one you want and help VR development! I can't wait to see where the tech goes!
SkateZilla Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) Here's the Nitty, Ran DCS on Server Box, since my gaming rig is not available at the moment. The "Resolution" Problem alot of people like to point out, effects everyone, w/ or w/o Rift and TrackIR, (except maybe 40 Inch 4K HDTV users). With DCS + Track IR (or NUMPAD Movement), I can look at panel, but I Still needed to Zoom in a lil to read some switches, Running at 1440p 24' Screen With DCS + Rift, I can Look at Panels and Read most of the text, and still need to lean in a lil to read some, then again I know most of the A-10C's switches without reading labels anyway. So It's about the Same, Clarity Wise, but differs in how you react to smaller labels, The MAIN Difference is, w/ Track IR you can still Zoom, w/ Rift you have to actually move your head. IMHO it feels more natural this way. and I Like it a lot better than turning my head left, while looking out the right side of my eyes, and FoV Zooming in and out etc. So You're trading off Overcranked Ratio Tracking w/ Zoom In and Zoom Out on a 2D Image, With 1:1 head Tracking/Movement and 3D Depth of Field. IMHO, I likely wont go back to Eyefinity anytime soon. Edited April 10, 2016 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
KLR Rico Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) I may have to buy a Vive myself depending the max IPD adjustment of these units. Sorry, I remember you asking about that a while back... The CV1's lens spacing mode shows the IPD setting as you adjust the slider. On mine, the range shows up as 58 to 69mm. Hope that helps. PS- Playing around with the slider, I find my setting is 64, but within +/- 3 mm of that is still comfortable. Edited April 10, 2016 by KLR Rico i5-4670K@4.5GHz / 16 GB RAM / SSD / GTX1080 Rift CV1 / G-seat / modded FFB HOTAS
Frusheen Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 Gazelle video with DK2 will be posted by Polychop shortly. __________________________________________________Win 10 64bit | i7 7700k delid @ 5.1gHz | 32Gb 3466mhz TridentZ memory | Asus ROG Apex motherboard | Asus ROG Strix 1080Ti overclocked Komodosim Cyclic | C-tek anti torque pedals and collective | Warthog stick and throttle | Oculus Rift CV1 | KW-908 Jetseat | Buttkicker with Simshaker for Aviators RiftFlyer VR G-Seat project: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2733051#post2733051
super2277 Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 Here shows the Oculus and HTC Vive in elite dangerous and the SDE effect on reddit
_Acoustic_ Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 Here shows the Oculus and HTC Vive in elite dangerous and the SDE effect on reddit Thanks Super, that was a really informative, non bias review. Glad to hear both seem to be great. :thumbup:
super2277 Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 No problem :) btw: i was the guy who flew in formation with the F15 with M200 and Mig21 on the server 30 minutes ago :P 1
mars Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 Can't Get DCS working with Oculus 1.3.1... Hi Guys, I have tried it all: - Newest drivers for graphics card (970) - Newest Oculus software (1.3.1) - I have "auto detect Rift" checked in the sim - I also have aero interfact turned off - Steam 1.5 version of DCS - I have tried both "openbeta" and standard versions pCars and P3D both work flawlessly but when I launch DCS from Steam it launches to the monitor every time. One thought - I had the open beta version of DCS installed and when I change to the non-open beta version steam does not download anything - is it possible that, even though Steam says it has dropped the openbeta, that it is still running the openbeta exe? Any Ideas? I can't wait to see ATW at work in DCS - it works so well in p3d! Thanks, Mars
SkateZilla Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 Hi Guys, I have tried it all: - Newest drivers for graphics card (970) - Newest Oculus software (1.3.1) - I have "auto detect Rift" checked in the sim - I also have aero interfact turned off - Steam 1.5 version of DCS - I have tried both "openbeta" and standard versions pCars and P3D both work flawlessly but when I launch DCS from Steam it launches to the monitor every time. One thought - I had the open beta version of DCS installed and when I change to the non-open beta version steam does not download anything - is it possible that, even though Steam says it has dropped the openbeta, that it is still running the openbeta exe? Any Ideas? I can't wait to see ATW at work in DCS - it works so well in p3d! Thanks, Mars Right now Stable and Open Beta are the same Version. Make sure you have the Oculus software set to allow external Applications. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
mars Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 Thanks Skatezilla, I do have oculus set to allow external applications... still no-joy Mars
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