Reworked Cockpit Views with proper Neck

[cichlidfan]

Is this in a mission you downloaded, or on a server?

[Fakum]

ok, so I spent alot of time today reading through all this (Thanks PeterP for the Mod!) I am not clear on 1 thing, is the 1st page actually updated so the 1st post is the actual instructions that are current for the 127 version? I read variances along the way, but I got confused as to whether to follow the thread thru again or is it safe to install per post#1 for Ver 127? Thanks

 

Just nudging, thanks

[uboats]

1.2.8 is going to be released where 25t & 33 6dof are included.

please update this to support new 6dof of 25t & 33

[MTFDarkEagle]

1.2.8 is going to be released where 25t & 33 6dof are included.

please update this to support new 6dof of 25t & 33

 

Hu?? :huh:

[Devrim]

I think "Hu??" means that "Don't worry UBoats, it will work with v1.2.8 as expected." :D

[Home Fries]

Just make sure you change your TrackIR Z axis from FOV zoom to camera forward/backward and you won't have any problems with the transition.

[uboats]

Just make sure you change your TrackIR Z axis from FOV zoom to camera forward/backward and you won't have any problems with the transition.

 

got it

 

but if you tried it in su33 6dof preview in 1.2.7, you will find that the eye may not be in a proper position that when u look back, ur sight always through the seat

[Shadow KT]

I think I might be doing something wrong

 

[Fakum]

ok, so I spent alot of time today reading through all this (Thanks PeterP for the Mod!) I am not clear on 1 thing, is the 1st page actually updated so the 1st post is the actual instructions that are current for the 127 version? I read variances along the way, but I got confused as to whether to follow the thread thru again or is it safe to install per post#1 for Ver 127? Thanks

 

Im just looking for a confirmation on the installation procedure please,,,Thanks,

[C6_Hellfrog]

installed two days ago on fresh 127 install of DCS and working OK with BS2 and H1

[Fakum]

did you install from post 1 instructions ONLY,, or by the variations listed through out this thread? Thanks

[Home Fries]

Im just looking for a confirmation on the installation procedure please,,,Thanks,

Procedure is actually simpler now since you don't have to really do any editing. Just copy server.lua and the included snapviews.lua to their folders in Saved Games\DCS and you're good to go.

I think I might be doing something wrong

 

If the problem isn't the TrackIR Z axis (set to camera forward/back instead of zoom), and doesn't unzoom after pressing ENTER on the numeric keypad (to center zoom), then make sure you have PeterP's snapviews.lua included (feel free to back up your own first).

 

BTW, even if you don't have a Cougar, I have Snap Views for this mod included in my Cougar profile (see my signature).

[Fakum]

Thanks!

[RazorbackNL]

Hi Peter,

 

I have installed your latest "Proper Neck for DCS 1.2.6 - 1.2" into OpenBeta 1.2.8.

 

All seems allright for the P-51D and the UH-1H. I have manually included the new TF-51D, which also works now. The Huey has a problem though.

 

When you sit in the co-pilot seat, the view is not correct. I have included some screenshots of the situation. Maybe you are already working on the 1.2.8 version but I just wanted to let you know :thumbup:

 

Thank you for a great mod.

 

Razorback

Edited April 7, 2014 by Razorback[NL]

[dok_rp]

Thank you so much PeterP.

 

This solves the problem with the Bizarre view restrictions when flying DCS A10C and TrackIR.

 

Thank you very much for your implementation!!! :smartass:

[RazorbackNL]

;2035999']Hi Peter,

 

I have installed your latest "Proper Neck for DCS 1.2.6 - 1.2" into OpenBeta 1.2.8.

 

All seems allright for the P-51D and the UH-1H. I have manually included the new TF-51D, which also works now. The Huey has a problem though.

 

When you sit in the co-pilot seat, the view is not correct. I have included some screenshots of the situation. Maybe you are already working on the 1.2.8 version but I just wanted to let you know :thumbup:

 

Thank you for a great mod.

 

Razorback

 

 

Isn't anybody else facing this co-pilot view behaviour? I know it doesn't have anything to do with the SnapView.lua. Even when I use PeterP's snapviews, the situation is still the same. I have dug into the Server.lua, but I can't seem to figure out what is going on.

[Shaman]

I am not using this mod yet.

I have a question to its developer.

 

I still need to reduce TIR axis to 64% travel (yaw, pitch, roll i don't use) in DCS axis settings to get 1:1 translation from TIR drivers and stop in-game head of having faster turn angle than what is given on TIR profile, and lock head from turning past 180.

 

Does 'proper neck mod' fixes this, and mentioned work-around is not necessary for proper TIR+DCS+neckmod operation?

It is something I always wished to see fixed in game but devs never responded to my bug report.

 

We are step away from full VR goggles for DCS and all these head issues have to be fixed pronto.

Edited April 13, 2014 by Shaman

[eFirehawk]

Has anybody tried the mod with the new SU-33 and SU-25T cockpits? When looking backwards there's no 'head over the shoulder effect' and the haed goes inside the pilot's headrests in both cases. In the SU-27 it works fine. I believe it happens because it was simply made to allow free head movement inside the previous 'locked up' 2D cockpits. Does anybody know how to fix this?

 

This mod is an absolute must-have, just can't live without it anymore :)

[PL_Harpoon]

;2035999']Hi Peter,

 

I have installed your latest "Proper Neck for DCS 1.2.6 - 1.2" into OpenBeta 1.2.8.

 

All seems allright for the P-51D and the UH-1H. I have manually included the new TF-51D, which also works now. The Huey has a problem though.

 

When you sit in the co-pilot seat, the view is not correct. I have included some screenshots of the situation. Maybe you are already working on the 1.2.8 version but I just wanted to let you know :thumbup:

 

Thank you for a great mod.

 

Razorback

I had the same issue, but didn't found any solution.

[RazorbackNL]

@PL_Harpoon

 

The only temporary solution which I have is to exclude the UH-1H section from the server.lua file. That way you have the standard view from DCS while still having the Proper Neck view for the rest of the aircraft.

Btw: I also noticed the Mi-8 is having the same issues in the copilot view as the Huey.

[Shaman]

PeterP, you are absolutely my hero!

Years of annoyances are gone!

 

Followed instructions to the letter,

I have tweaked my TIR profile, and saturation of TIR YAW (from 100 to 44) and PITCH (to 66) axes within DCS configuration to make sure in-game view is 1:1 what TIR test window shows me.

 

The feeling of being there in the cockpit has absolutely been increased 10 times!

Now I am ready to incorporate VR googles like Rift, before it was absolutely impossible with broken eyepoint and unrealistic HUD (when turning head etc).

 

You have nailed it man and reignited my will to fly even more DCS! I have just logged many hours with this mod, I can't fly without it!

[_Dredd]

PeterP, you are absolutely my hero!

Years of annoyances are gone!

 

Followed instructions to the letter,

I have tweaked my TIR profile, and saturation of TIR YAW (from 100 to 44) and PITCH (to 66) axes within DCS configuration to make sure in-game view is 1:1 what TIR test window shows me.

 

The feeling of being there in the cockpit has absolutely been increased 10 times!

Now I am ready to incorporate VR googles like Rift, before it was absolutely impossible with broken eyepoint and unrealistic HUD (when turning head etc).

 

You have nailed it man and reignited my will to fly even more DCS! I have just logged many hours with this mod, I can't fly without it!

 

Hey shaman, can you attach your TIR profile, for us to check out?

[Shaman]

Hey shaman, can you attach your TIR profile, for us to check out?

 

Hi _Dredd,

note you must change your TRACKIR_YAW saturation Y axis configuration from 100 to 44, and TRACKIR_PITCH to 64 for my profile (and most profiles, due to some DCSW incompatibility with TIR drivers axis when counting degrees).

Hope you can dig it :)

Once you do it and you load my profile, what TIR test screen shows you from pilot's point of view you shall see inside DCS cockpit, and you can compare TIR test window side by side with game running in window mode.

 

Bellow attached TIR profile for above 1:1 setting and neck-mod. It incorporates little dead zone along 0-Z translation axis (fwd/back) plus curvature before reaching value of 1, this after many trials, to make sure it absolutely recognizes you are strapped to your seat and to eliminate any "play" along this axis when your back is rested :)

 

Flight tested with Su-27S and A-10C for many hours.

 

PS. TIR global settings: Speed 1, Smooth 40.

DCS-neckmod.rar

Edited April 26, 2014 by Shaman

[_Dredd]

Thanks buddy, I changed all axis to 50, pitch to 64.. working great! I feel like I have a working neck now, and you have to work your head(view). Feels more strapped in :)

 

Rep inbound.

Edited April 26, 2014 by _Dredd

[Shaman]

Thanks buddy, I changed all axis to 50, pitch to 64.. working great! I feel like I have a working neck now, Rep inbound.

 

Happy this helps, I have edited post above, but since you're already set:thumbup: