sobek Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Copied from SimHq, if anyone of you has 600$ on edge and is feeling fancy: http://www.realsimulator.com/html/fssb_r3_warthog.html ;) Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Vlerkies Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Wake me up when someone mods the slider that's used for zoom on the throttle, so that its smooth, if they havent already. ;) Thermaltake View 91, Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra, i9 9900K, Corsair H150i Pro, 32Gb Trident Z 3200, Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 2080ti, Corsair AX1200i, Warthog A-10 Hotas, MFG Crosswind pedals, TiR5 Pro, HP Reverb Pro
Manuel Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 I dont see the performance difference at first glance. Anybody else? It is kind of weird because the hotas is a extraordinary product and I don't see the need for preciser sensor. PC: Asus P8Z77-M Mainboard; Intel i5-3570K (4x3,4Ghz) mit Scythe Mugen 3 CPU Kühler; 16Gb Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz; Nvidia GTX570 1280mb; Samsung 830 SSD; Samsung HDD Flight Sim Gear: TM Warthog; Saitek Pro Pedals; TM Cougars on an 19" screen; TrackIR 5 w/ trackclip pro; Logitech G35 headset
cichlidfan Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 I'd go for it if FFB worked correctly in DCS. :( ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
159th_Viper Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 I'd go for it if FFB worked correctly in DCS. :( FSSB has nothing to do with FFB. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
sobek Posted December 29, 2012 Author Posted December 29, 2012 I'd go for it if FFB worked correctly in DCS. :( That is force sensing, not force feedback. The magnitude of the output is dependant on the force you apply, not on deflection of the stick. That is the difference. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
EtherealN Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Cichlidfan, what this thing does is it effectively converts your warthog from a "moving" stick to a stationary, force-sensing, one. That is, you issue cdommands through applying force to the stick, not through the stick actually moving anywhere, For this reason, FFB is pointless. EDIT: Pileup! :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
danilop Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 This is basicaly a €850 (Warthog + FSSB mod) X65f stick with dual stage trigger and slight movement in both axis?
Pilotasso Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 oh yeah, the best of both worlds!!! Too bad I just sent my money away for my savings account. Oh well. :) .
danilop Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Dream come true for Falcon fans, then ... :thumbup:
vCUJOv Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Here we go. Warthog mods starting to appear. :) I remember back in a day something similar came out for Cougar. I was anxious to get it until I've heard this mod is ok for fly by wire planes and not suitable for ww2 or prop planes. Has anyone used fssb with fsx or cod for example?
StoOopiD Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) I'd go for it if FFB worked correctly in DCS. :( its works good, u should buy it Edited December 30, 2012 by StoOopiD [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Crosshair VIII hero wifi, 3800x w/ Enermax 360 AIO cooler (push-pull), 32gigs DDR4 Ripjaws 3600, Win 10 home on a Plextor PCI-E x4 3gb/s HD, EVGA 2070 Super FTW3 ultra+, Soundblaster Z Rift S, M$FFB2, CH Pro throttle, Saitek pedals BS2, A10C, P51D, SPITFIRE, FC3, Uh-1H, F86, Mi-8MTV2, SA342, MIG21-bis, AV8BNA, F14, F16, FA-18C, SUPERCARRIER
Vlerkies Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Here we go. Warthog mods starting to appear. :) I remember back in a day something similar came out for Cougar. I was anxious to get it until I've heard this mod is ok for fly by wire planes and not suitable for ww2 or prop planes. Has anyone used fssb with fsx or cod for example? I modded my Cougar but with the U2NXT hal sensor mod. A massive improvement on the original hotas without a doubt. I still prefer the feel the cougar stick has now over the hog. The warthogs center is just to rigid for my liking. Just my opinion. I'm only flying A10 now so I use the hog for its plug and play ability. Cougar gathering dust. The Falcon guys were big fans of these FSSB type mods. Thermaltake View 91, Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra, i9 9900K, Corsair H150i Pro, 32Gb Trident Z 3200, Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 2080ti, Corsair AX1200i, Warthog A-10 Hotas, MFG Crosswind pedals, TiR5 Pro, HP Reverb Pro
Habu_69 Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 New Force Sensor Mod for TM Warthog HOTAS Rrealsimulator announces a force sensing mod (FSSB) for TM Warthog. http://www.realsimulator.com/html/fssb_r3_warthog.html
badger66 Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 450 euro , they can stuff that right where the sun dont shine !!!
Dejjvid Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 450€ FML!!! I'm glad my stick still deliver :) i7 8700K | GTX 1080 Ti | 32GB RAM | 500GB M.2 SSD | TIR5 w/ Trackclip Pro | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Pro Flight Rudder [sigpic]http://www.132virtualwing.org[/sigpic]
Madone Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 lol badger :lol: Strike Posture Set CAS Center of Excellence Intel Core i5 4690k @4,6Ghz, Gigabyte GTX 970 OC, Gigabyte Z97-X, 16GB G Skill Sniper @2400, Samsung 860/850 EVO , Win 10 64 bits, Dual monitors 27"@144"Opentrack + TM Warthog + Saitek pro flight combat
Eddie Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 If we ever get DCS:Viper, it'll be on my shopping list for sure. The old FSSB mod for the Cougar was fantastic. That is of course if TM don't make another HOTAS.
Gunnergolly Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) I might have to look into the R3, after two years of use my Warthog centering and feel is awful now (striped it down and found out that the pressure ring is perishing). I know the FSSB R3 MOD will probably work (feel) great with the the DCS fixed wings, but im curious as to how it will work with the DCS KA-50 trimming. I also play ROF and i think using something like the FSSB for a first world war sim would feel really weird. I'm wondering how the FSSB R3's feel will translate to non fast mover aircraft and helicopters ?. The Warthog is a good stick but in many ways i dislike using the heavy centering(and my now sloppy) Warthog with the fast jets...... The A-10C feels ok with the standard Warthog but the BMS F-16 would definitely be improved with the FSSB mod..... trouble is i fly a lot of KA-50. Hopefully it's just a case of retraining muscle memory... but it would be nice to eliminate the Warthog's centering problems once and for all Edited January 17, 2013 by Gunnergolly Win 11 Home 64Bit, i7-13700K@5.2Ghz Water Cooled, 32 Gb RAM, PNY RTX4090, Pimax Crystal, Quest Pro, Realsimulator FSSB R3 ULTRA, Virpil/Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS combo, MFG Crosswind Pedals.
Manuel Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Maybe find some repair parts? You mean the spring element that centers the Stick? I might have to look into the R3, after two years of use my Warthog centering and feel is awful now (striped it down and found out that the pressure ring is perishing). PC: Asus P8Z77-M Mainboard; Intel i5-3570K (4x3,4Ghz) mit Scythe Mugen 3 CPU Kühler; 16Gb Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz; Nvidia GTX570 1280mb; Samsung 830 SSD; Samsung HDD Flight Sim Gear: TM Warthog; Saitek Pro Pedals; TM Cougars on an 19" screen; TrackIR 5 w/ trackclip pro; Logitech G35 headset
Gunnergolly Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Maybe find some repair parts? You mean the spring element that centers the Stick? No it's the thin anti buffer disk that fits on the underside of the pressure plate, i already have the part sourced from Thrustmaster (SPARE PART NUMBER: 201301150023). In the meantime i've repositioned the disk so i'll hopefully get a little extra time out of it until it's replacment arrives However i'm really looking for a long term alternative solution and the FSSB R3 could be it, unfortunately it's not a cheap option either. However i like ROF and play the KA-50 most of the time, i've been digging around and a lot of people dont like the force sensing stick's for WW1 and WW2 style flight sims..... On the other hand the fly by wire BMS people love them, personally i don't like the standard Warthog whilst playing BMS... I'll just have to think about it find out for myself if i decide to make the FSSB R3 financial plunge :smilewink:.................... and work some overtime to pay for it:( Win 11 Home 64Bit, i7-13700K@5.2Ghz Water Cooled, 32 Gb RAM, PNY RTX4090, Pimax Crystal, Quest Pro, Realsimulator FSSB R3 ULTRA, Virpil/Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS combo, MFG Crosswind Pedals.
recoilfx Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 FYI, The new pressure ring can be ordered from Thrustmaster for $25 shipped... Also, a replacement button cost about the same... Yeah, that's expensive... You can fly without the ring though, it's there to make the center softer....
Gunnergolly Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Yeah it's expensive, UK price with shipping and VAT added on top would come to £500 ($795) !!!. Maybe one day, however in the meantime i've ordered a replacement pressure ring... Win 11 Home 64Bit, i7-13700K@5.2Ghz Water Cooled, 32 Gb RAM, PNY RTX4090, Pimax Crystal, Quest Pro, Realsimulator FSSB R3 ULTRA, Virpil/Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS combo, MFG Crosswind Pedals.
*Rage* Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 I had the FSSB R1 and it was awesome. Bookmarked. For future consideration. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22
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