5 hours mission played yesterday

[Bruce_D]

I’ve created a mission where you have to invade the city of Tbilisi and conquer the airport. The sides are Russia (invader and playable – Red Side) and Georgia (defenders – Blue Side).

 

 

For the Red side I’ve put 87 ground vehicles (13 trucks with ammunition, 4 T-80U, 4 T-72, 4 BMP-3, 4 BRT-80, 3 Shilka, 1 Tunguska, 12 Artilleries using 6 Msta and 6 Akastia, 1 BRDM-2, 1 Command truck and the rest was soldiers with AK and RPGs). There were 2 groups of 2 Ka-50 armed with canon pods and Vikhr. I’ve put a Su-34 armed with guided bombs to attack buildings at the city.

 

 

The Blue side had 104 vehicles (4 SAMs, a lot of BMPs, BRT-80, AAAs, artilleries and MBT of the both types that Georgia has, soldiers with AK and RPGs and Watch Towers at the airport), a pair of MI-24V armed with rockets and 1 Predator Flying high to watch my position. Almost all vehicles are moving around the city during all the time of the mission (5 hours of movement).

 

 

All the vehicles and air planes are on the Highest AI level.

The mission started at 23:30:00 and finished at 04:38:00 with my victory. I’ve lost 8 vehicles and 4 helicopters (1 was shot down and the others 3 ran out of fuel because of a possible bug that I’m going to report at the end of this text). The blue side lost 103 vehicles and 1 plane.

 

 

Resume:

 

 

When the Su-34 was bombing the buildings I could see on map most of the enemies so I used the artilleries to destroy the SAMs, AAAs and artilleries. After the SU-34 left the area I started to use the BRDM-2 to JTAC. I’ve found the enemies using the binoculars and turning on the laser to write down the coordinates and passing them to the artilleries. It was very funny and took a lot of time because the BRDM-2 was not invisible or immortal, so I maneuvered the car prevented been detected.

 

 

I drove at the top of the hills outside the city 9,000 to 5,000 meters away from the targets. Sometimes I was attacked and had to reallocate the BRDM-2, but I manage to JTAC all the enemies’ artilleries, AAAs and SAMs.

The first Ka-50 group started at 00:00:00. They’ve found 2 groups of T-55 and a group of BMP-2. They destroyed 2 T-55 and damaged 1 BMP-2 and 1 T-55. They’ve used all the ammo and were guns only when one BMP-2 shoot down one Ka-50.

 

 

The second pair took off at 02:30:00 and they destroyed 2 BMPs and 1 soldier.

 

 

Invading the city was difficult; it was a short range fight. I’ve lost one BRT-80 by an RPG fire from a group of soldiers behind a building that the AI discovered after the RPG attack.

 

 

I’ve lost 3 BMPs and 2 T-80s by a group of 4 T-55s. My other two loses happened at the end of the mission (about five minutes before I conquer the airport); I’ve lost 1 Tunguska for a Watch Tower and the BRDM-2 was destroyed by a T-72.

 

 

With the soldiers I’ve killed a group of 20 enemies with AKs and RPGs using a pincer movement with two groups of 10 in a pincer movement behind a building. I’ve had no loses.

 

 

Possible Bugs:

 

 

Took a lot of time for the Su-34 to bomb all the six targets. It made lots of turns before firing one bomb.

 

 

The Ka-50 spend a lot of time to aim and attack, and they missed more than 90% of theirs Vikhr. When they managed to destroy or damage 1 enemy of the group, the tanks stopped and a message appeared on the top left of the screen saying something like “Can’t attack, Impossible to use the weapon on the enemy”. They could only be signed to attack again when the enemy started to move. First I thought that the buildings where the problem, but the same thing happened in an opened and plain field outside the city. When this happens, with you try to designate on the map a target to the helicopters instead of appear a green cross on the enemy appeared a red cross and the message. It happened on a group of T-72 that where stopped in the middle of the airport.

 

 

I’ve send they back to the base (put a waypoint close to the heliport), but they didn’t land an crashed running out of fuel. They don’t land!

 

 

Some places at the city and around it, when you drive on the road the vehicles stays under the ground when you try to reach the top of the slope. After you reach the top the vehicle appears above the ground again.

 

 

 

Nobody detected and attacked the watch towers. That’s why one of them destroyed my Tunguska when it was 50 meters from the watch tower. I’ve entered in first person in a T-80 located and destroyed then. But they didn’t appear on map.

 

 

 

I thing that’s all! Even with these bugs I’ve had a lot of fun.

[jib]

Do you want to upload the mission so I can have a go!

 

Ideas about bugs.

 

The Ka-50 spend a lot of time to aim and attack, and they missed more than 90% of theirs Vikhr. When they managed to destroy or damage 1 enemy of the group, the tanks stopped and a message appeared on the top left of the screen saying something like “Can’t attack, Impossible to use the weapon on the enemy”. They could only be signed to attack again when the enemy started to move. First I thought that the buildings where the problem, but the same thing happened in an opened and plain field outside the city. When this happens, with you try to designate on the map a target to the helicopters instead of appear a green cross on the enemy appeared a red cross and the message. It happened on a group of T-72 that where stopped in the middle of the airport.

 

Was the wind set on high or Dynamic weather system. I know if it is windy Vikhr can become inacruuate but it is usally just for human players.

 

I’ve send they back to the base (put a waypoint close to the heliport), but they didn’t land an crashed running out of fuel. They don’t land!

 

There is no way to make them land yet, but they should RTB when they get low on fuel

 

 

 

Some places at the city and around it, when you drive on the road the vehicles stays under the ground when you try to reach the top of the slope. After you reach the top the vehicle appears above the ground again.

 

yeap the collision mesh doesn't always match the visible terrian.

 

Nobody detected and attacked the watch towers. That’s why one of them destroyed my Tunguska when it was 50 meters from the watch tower. I’ve entered in first person in a T-80 located and destroyed then. But they didn’t appear on map.

 

Towers might not have the right colliosn mesh for AI to "see them"

[Bruce_D]

I'm on a business travel at the moment. On Friday I'll be back and then I'll upload the mission.

[joey45]

The KA-50 is not a night chopper..

[Bruce_D]

The KA-50 is not a night chopper..

 

Why is it not a night chopper?

[Corrigan]

Because it can't see anything.

[159th_Viper]

Illum rockets - couple of those and you see plenty fine :D

[Corrigan]

Something tells me the AI isn't really a illum rocket kinda guy. :P

[joey45]

Why is it not a night chopper?

 

it has no FLIR or night fighting sensors..

[Speed]

Something tells me the AI isn't really a illum rocket kinda guy. :P

 

Back in BS 1.0.1, I investigated the possibility of making a mission where you fired illumination rockets for Su-25As. It worked. Once I put illumination rockets on the targets, the AI engaged them, and continued to engage as long as I kept the targets lit up. So it's a workable concept.

 

Similarly, you should also be able to set one group of AI to drop illumination bombs, while another group does the actual engagement. That said, it's been a while since 1.0.1, and while the general direction of DCS is forward towards more features and more advanced behavior, it can always go backwards in a selected area.

[Nate--IRL--]

Something tells me the AI isn't really a illum rocket kinda guy. :P

 

The AIs Visibility of targets is very much influenced by conditions. Illumination rockets do have an effect, as does pitch darkness.

 

Nate

[karambiatos]

it has no FLIR or night fighting sensors..

one must use the force...

 

 

the shkval gamma knob helps too

[Corrigan]

The AIs Visibility of targets is very much influenced by conditions. Illumination rockets do have an effect, as does pitch darkness.

 

Nate

 

You ain't kidding :D

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=102723

[Bruce_D]

Does the KA-50 has illumination rockets or do I have to input another flight to do that?

[Suchacz]

Does the KA-50 has illumination rockets or do I have to input another flight to do that?

Yes, they can be armed.

[bluepilot76]

This thread makes me want to buy CA. Problem is, I dont think I have time to learn how to be a ground commander as well as P51 ace, KA50 dude and A10C jock. And do real work as well.

[element1108]

This thread makes me want to buy CA. Problem is, I dont think I have time to learn how to be a ground commander as well as P51 ace, KA50 dude and A10C jock. And do real work as well.

 

I know, the UH-1 and Mig 21 dropping sometime this year doesn't help much either...I did buy CA (had to based on principle alone) but haven't had nearly enough time to use it as I would like.

 

I bought it primarily for business trips (just mouse click my way through layovers and long flights) but since it's dropped I haven't had much travel.

 

Even so, it's a much better product now than when I bought it :).

[Mule]

This thread makes me want to buy CA. Problem is, I dont think I have time to learn how to be a ground commander as well as P51 ace, KA50 dude and A10C jock. And do real work as well.

 

So so true!

[STP Dragon]

Does the KA-50 has illumination rockets or do I have to input another flight to do that?

 

Yes S8-OM

[Bruce_D]

Yes S8-OM

 

Does the AI fires this rockets before an attack or do I have to set something on the mission editor?

[Bruce_D]

"This thread makes me want to buy CA. Problem is, I dont think I have time to learn how to be a ground commander as well as P51 ace, KA50 dude and A10C jock. And do real work as well."

 

I'm creating a new mission that, if it works as planed, i'm sure that you are going to buy it. If you buy it remember that I want 10% of this sell value. Hahaha...

[karambiatos]

if CA had thermals and properish FCS it would be a buy, but in its current state is more shallow than arma 2 ACE tanks and i just cant justify the price for that

[bluepilot76]

I know, the UH-1 and Mig 21 dropping sometime this year doesn't help much either...I did buy CA (had to based on principle alone) but haven't had nearly enough time to use it as I would like.

 

I bought it primarily for business trips (just mouse click my way through layovers and long flights) but since it's dropped I haven't had much travel.

 

Even so, it's a much better product now than when I bought it :).

 

I hadnt thought of that. Sometimes I just cant be bothered setting up the stick and the Track IR. It would be good to have a DCS program where you just need mouse (I presume?)

Maybe my neighbors on the plane wont mind me setting up my 17in gaming laptop when I fly to NY in a couple of weeks and blowing hot air out of the overloaded CPU/GPU all over them, and the sound of gunfire. Better be a power supply handy!

[Bruce_D]

Do you want to upload the mission so I can have a go!

 

 

Here is the mission. You have to conquer the Tblisi airport.

 

Tests in my next mission have worked fine. I will give a report later.

Tblisi.miz

[Bruce_D]

Like I said before, I've created a new mission. On this one you have to command a group of soldiers to prevent the invasion of Poti by Russian forces.

 

You have to study the map of the city and ambush the enemies’ armors and infantry.

 

 

It will not take 5 hours, but is very difficult.

Ambush.miz