bumfire Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 As the title says, I was wondering if their is a full sim ala A10C but for the SU25T in the works or on the cards ? Anyone know ? I do fly the standard 25T and 25 in DCSW, but would love to fly a proper uncircumcised version.
badger66 Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Be great to see one ..... but the newer version with uprated engines and other trick bits would be nicer . Lookin at all the other stuff that's back logged up , I cant see it happenin for a couple years , sadly .
Paganus Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I doubt we'll see anything in the near future unless some third party is out there working on it in secret. I'd buy a DCS level SU-25SM.
Boberro Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Su-25T at DCS level seems to be fantasmagoria than real possibility. Su-25SM seems to be more real perspective, but this plane limits fun almost only to dumb bombs and rocket pods. Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
msalama Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I'd buy a DCS-level T-Toad in a heartbeat. One of my fave Russian groundpounders of all time. But frankly speaking I'd buy a DCS-level IL-2 even faster :D The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
crazyirish93 Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 any of the su25 variants at DCS level would be amazing and id buy one without a second thought.
enigma6584 Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I'm joining the crowd here. Always loved flying the Su-25T and Su-25. Would kill for A-10C level Su-25s. Perhaps some day.
Hawk_5 Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 With the SU25T's advanced flight model I see it as already being a cut above the FC3 standard stuff. It just doesn't have the 6ODF cockpit and flight systems but still feels great when flying it! If we get a DCS:SU-25T then I would be very happy too!! Hawk_5 Modules: A10C, BS2, FC3, P51, CA, UH-1H, Mi-8MTV2 System: Gigabyte GA-X79UP4 MB, intel 3930k, Coolermaster Siedon 120M liquid cooled, Corsair Vengence Red 16GB 2133Mhz, Gigabyte Geforce GTX680 2GB Super o'clk, intel 520 SSD 240GB, Seagate Barracuda 2TB HD, Coolermaster Silent Pro 800W PS, Coolermaster CM690 II Case
hannibal Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 didnt they say that they will have the Su25TM along with all the other 3rd party aircraft in the dcs world overview video with wags? find me on steam! username: Hannibal_A101A http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969447179
eFirehawk Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 As I understood it's the SU-27SM only, hannibal. :) Pentium II 233Mhz | 16MB RAM | 14.4kb Modem | 1.44MB Floppy Disk Drive | Windows 3.1 with TM Warthog & TrackIR 5
Rangi Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Doesn't sound like it, its not mentioned in Grooves newsletter and they named about the next 10 upcoming aircraft. That will probably be all we will see in the next few years. PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor.
Grimes Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 My understanding of the Su-25T/Su-25Tm/Su-39 was that it was developed and some aircraft were produced, but not many. And that they favored the Su-25SM upgrade instead. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
badger66 Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 What are the differences between the T and the SM please ?
MadTommy Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) What are the differences between the T and the SM please ? From wiki Su-25SM The Su-25SM (Stroyevoy Modernizirovannyi) is an "affordable" upgrade programme for the venerable Su-25, conceived by the Russian Air Force (RuAF) in 2000. The programme stems from the attempted Su-25T and Su-25TM upgrades, which were evaluated and labeled as over-sophisticated and expensive. The SM upgrade incorporates avionics enhancements and airframe refurbishment to extend the Frogfoot's service life by up to 500 flight hours or 5 years.[52] The Su-25SM's all-new PRnK-25SM "Bars" navigation/attack suite is built around the BTsVM-90 digital computer system, originally planned for the Su-25TM upgrade programme. Navigation and attack precision provided by the new suite is three times better of the baseline Su-25 and is reported to be within 15 m (46 ft) using satellite correction and 200 m (660 ft) without it.[52] A new KA1-1-01 Head-Up Display (HUD) was added providing, among other things, double the field of view of the original ASP-17BTs-8 electro-optical sight. Other systems and components incorporated during the upgrade include a Multi-Function Display (MFD), RSBN-85 Short Range Aid to Navigation (SHORAN), ARK-35-1 Automatic Direction Finder (ADF), A-737-01 GPS/GLONASS Receiver, Karat-B-25 Flight Data Recorder (FDR), Berkut-1 Video Recording System (VRS), Banker-2 UHF/VHF communication radio, SO-96 Transponder and a L150 "Pastel" Radar Warning Receiver (RWR).[52] The R-95Sh engines have been overhauled and modified with an anti-surge system installed. The system is designed to improve the resistance of the engine to ingested powders and gases during gun and rocket salvo firing.[52] The combination of reconditioned and new equipment, with increased automation and self-test capability has allowed for a reduction of pre- and post-flight maintenance by some 25 to 30%. Overall weight savings are around 300 kg (660 lb).[52] Su-25SM weapon suite has been expanded with the addition of the Vympel R-73 highly agile air-to-air missile (albeit without helmet mounted cuing) and the S-13T 130 mm rockets (carried in five-round B-13 pods) with blast-fragmentation and armour-piercing warheads. Further, the Kh-25ML and Kh-29L Weapon Employment Profiles have been significantly improved, permitting some complex missile launch scenarios to be executed, such as: firing two consecutive missiles on two different targets in a single attack pass. The GSh-30-2 cannon (250 round magazine) has received three new reduced rate-of-fire modes: 750, 375 and 188 Rounds per Minute. The Su-25SM was also given new BD3-25 under-wing pylons.[52] The eventual procurement programme is expected to include between 100 and 130 kits, covering 60 to 70 percent of the RuAF active single-seat fleet, as operated in the early 2000s.[52] By 2020, 80 aircraft are to be modernised to SM version.[53] By March 2013, over 60 aircraft are to be upgraded.[54][53][55] In February 2013, ten new Su-25SMs were delivered to the Air Force southern base,[56]<http://ria.ru/arms/20130215/923095137.html</ref> where operational training is being conducted.[57] Edited March 21, 2013 by MadTommy i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4
Zayets Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Scrap the SU25T and give me SU25SM modeled same as A10C. The T is a rarity today. [sIGPIC]OK[/sIGPIC]
Dr_Arrow Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Without TV the SM is not that much better than standard 25.
Kaktus29 Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 oh yeah, the first sturmovik of russia..Il-2 .. this would be amazing.. bombs, rockets, guns, even some rudimentary kmgu il-2 carried if i remember correctly.. then all that is left is some 2WW tanks to blow up))
Boberro Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Whaaaat no TV ? :( Without TV the SM is not that much better than standard 25. Yup no TV. It was said TV pod is being produced but as always in Russia it takes decade to begin planning, and other years to manufacture. So far SM is just Su-25 with HUD lol. Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
Weta43 Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 And the ability to have missiles in the air targetting more than 1 target at a time.. Cheers.
Essah Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 And the ability to have missiles in the air targetting more than 1 target at a time.. You can already do this with the TV guided bombs and missiles on the Su-25T apart from that it would require GPS guided munition which I'm not sure the russians even have.
159th_Viper Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 apart from that it would require GPS guided munition which I'm not sure the russians even have. Look up СВП-24 Специализированная Вычислительная Подсистема (SVP-24 Spetsializirovannaya Vychislitelnaya Podsystema). Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Weta43 Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 You can already do this with the TV guided bombs and missiles on the Su-25T apart from that it would require GPS guided munition which I'm not sure the russians even have. From the earlier post... Further, the Kh-25ML and Kh-29L Weapon Employment Profiles have been significantly improved, permitting some complex missile launch scenarios to be executed, such as: firing two consecutive missiles on two different targets in a single attack pass. Cheers.
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