alphacharlieecho Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 Why would I be interested in sinking any more cash into this if there is never anyone online to fly with and what servers that are available are a wierd mosh of air/air combat against a bunch of gigling girls or air/ground with server limitations that make a simpit useless.. Where is the dedicated DCS servers with serious TS3 voice chat.. Cause god knows DCS hasnt sorted out that voice communication is everything with teammates? Really disapointed, the first company to address these two issues will leave dcs in it's wake while thanking them for paving the way... (MORE MODS FOR MORE CASH WILL NOT KEEP THE COMMUNITY GROWING, ONLY KEEPS YOUR TROLLS FED) 4
Jona33 Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 Go join a squad then. Always remember. I don't have a clue what I'm doing
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SNAFU Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) Where is the dedicated DCS servers with serious TS3 voice chat.. There is no "serious voice chat" in such a thing as "public server". Choose one of the two, protected server good comms, or public server and random comms. Welcome to the internet. ;) Maybe this will change, if you try bigger letters and capital... Edited April 12, 2013 by SNAFU [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Unsere Facebook-Seite
Pman Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 It really depends on what your trying to do. But if you want serious squad combat then you need a clan/squadron. Without that you will struggle as the bulk of players dont want to do simpits etc with their gaming. Good Luck, Hope you find what your looking for, but it wouldnt be practical to enforce such things on public servers, if that happened rather then all the servers you see now you may get 3 Pman
Heli Shed Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 Why would I be interested in sinking any more cash into this if there is never anyone online to fly with and what servers that are available are a wierd mosh of air/air combat against a bunch of gigling girls or air/ground with server limitations that make a simpit useless.. Where is the dedicated DCS servers with serious TS3 voice chat.. Cause god knows DCS hasnt sorted out that voice communication is everything with teammates? Really disapointed, the first company to address these two issues will leave dcs in it's wake while thanking them for paving the way... (MORE MODS FOR MORE CASH WILL NOT KEEP THE COMMUNITY GROWING, ONLY KEEPS YOUR TROLLS FED) We provide a Server (PUMA) that hosts complex Air 2 Ground missions. We also provide a teamspeak Server and a password to PUMA available as MOTD in teamspeak. In essence, be on Teamspeak and you can fly the mission. as for never anyone around, no comment. Come pay us a visit on YouTube - search for HELI SHED
ENO Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 I think if you had approached this with a LITTLE more intensity and disrespect to both the devs and the people who invest hours of their time on an almost daily basis to administrate and maintain the active servers, you might have achieved more with this thread. I've had my little freakout thread too so enjoy the opportunity to look back on it and realize how ridiculous it sounds. Once you simmer down a bit the outlook is less bleak. "ENO" Type in anger and you will make the greatest post you will ever regret. "Sweetest's" Military Aviation Art
seikdel Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 Why would I be interested in sinking any more cash into this if there is never anyone online to fly with and what servers that are available are a wierd mosh of air/air combat against a bunch of gigling girls or air/ground with server limitations that make a simpit useless.. Where is the dedicated DCS servers with serious TS3 voice chat.. Cause god knows DCS hasnt sorted out that voice communication is everything with teammates? Really disapointed, the first company to address these two issues will leave dcs in it's wake while thanking them for paving the way... (MORE MODS FOR MORE CASH WILL NOT KEEP THE COMMUNITY GROWING, ONLY KEEPS YOUR TROLLS FED) First, simmer down. Explosive anger over your individual desires not being perfectly met won't get you far. Second, join a squad. Seriously, find a squadron that's recruiting and join up. Find one that uses TARS if you want kickass voice communication. There are a number of different squadrons that are active, and they run the gamut from laid-back and casual to hardcore brevity-only. It's on you to find a group, though, and you're going to have to adjust your attitude if you want to find a solid one that will accept you. Seriously, though, join a group and use TARS.
Frostie Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) Why would I be interested in sinking any more cash into this if there is never anyone online to fly with and what servers that are available are a wierd mosh of air/air combat against a bunch of gigling girls or air/ground with server limitations that make a simpit useless.. Where is the dedicated DCS servers with serious TS3 voice chat.. Cause god knows DCS hasnt sorted out that voice communication is everything with teammates? Really disapointed, the first company to address these two issues will leave dcs in it's wake while thanking them for paving the way... (MORE MODS FOR MORE CASH WILL NOT KEEP THE COMMUNITY GROWING, ONLY KEEPS YOUR TROLLS FED) What an odd rant. There is no way on earth ED or anyone can make people join a TS and behave seriously, this is totally down to the users. A dedicated server with TS won't solve this unless it's passworded with registration requirements which is no different to joining a virtual squadron. Like everyone else has said here, if you want all of that and more then take the common sense route everyone else uses and join a squad. Edited April 12, 2013 by Frostie "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
159th_Viper Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 If that's your only issues then hop on over to the 159th site and we'll see if we can help you. One thing you however have to understand is that you have to be prepared to help yourself. Seek out online company that usually have secure voice comms as a matter of course. Do not expect everything to be spoonfed/handed to you. Not gonna happen. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
JG14_Smil Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 We all have bad days... You are wrong on all accounts. I have one of the most detailed Ka-50 simpits in the world (in function) and I assure you it is possible to have fun in DCS MP in it's current form. The line about the DEVs was uncalled for. I've already forgiven you, so best of luck to you.
alphacharlieecho Posted April 12, 2013 Author Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) Doing My Part I have done everything I can do and had fun with the phoenix dedicated servers but when their TS went down it was worthless. nothing worse than idiots who can join a server running a game that has fairly high system requirements but not run TS cause they explain in type they do not have a microphone. WTF I have X52(custom Profile), G13, Triton Headset, 5 monitors (3 set to eyefinity 2 dedicated to a custom Helios profile) cockpit is displayed n a 32inch touchscreen, and an extremely high end desktop. I own a personal CNC machine and have every intention of designing a home SIM, I am finding it hard to dedicate the expense of building a sim for any aircraft in this game. Hate and troll all you want but my argument is valid. I just checked every public server and there is a combined 29 people logged in right now. I just droped more money on that Combined Arms and for what. I have seen 2 servers that make use of it? DCS is worried about making more clickable airvraft when they havent even finished making the GUI for the existing aircraft compete with industry standards. Why do we still have to edit lua code to export gauges and such. I can't even change from the A10-C to the KA-50 without doing massive file changes in both the options for my screen and in the program files to make helios function. Helios is a great program and Gadroc deserves more credit for it than DCS does for everything else they have done. DCS should include something like HELIOS, ffs we can't even change our game sounds without going damn near to the desktop. I can go on and on and on with issues that need to be prioritized over new aircraft and every one of those reasons represents a percentage of members that DCS discourages. This is exactly how I feel about DCS products, argue and turn your nose makes no difference. I am new to flight sims as of Jan 2013 and have put a fair amount of time towards learning everything I can. So, my view on this should carry some weight, I am not jaded or appreciative for the things that DCS does better than others. This is all I have seen and I am not impressed. Consider the demographics for a moment. First off they need a descent computer, interest in flight sims, enough knowledge to not be intimidated, expensive equipment like joysticks/g13 etc, knowledge of programming(must have to edit lua and extract), a shit ton of patients, be willing to hand over 40 bucks every time they turn around, and the time to invest in this very serious hobby.. I have seen and met a lot of people in my life but never have I met anyone in RL that flys home simulators.... The demographics are small enough without adressing issues by people who are willing to give it a go. They can't stay in business on just your dollar.... one last things you veterans have not had to deal with was almost an extremely big deal breaker for me. THIS FORUM, it is cluttered with old information from previous updates that have never been archived. It was nearly impossible to sort through it all just to makes sense of half the things needed to get started. Three fn days to find HELIOS, the website is down and you now need to go to gadrocs workshop to download it but with hundreds of links from 2009 still showing in the searches I thought it was discontinued. 2 weeks after I get Helios working properly they update DCS and the export.lua was moved and instead of playing I am trying to sort out the 1millionth problem!!!! Edited April 12, 2013 by alphacharlieecho 2
159th_Falcon Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 They can't stay in business on just your dollar.... And that is why DCS is just a side/pet project of Eagle Dynamics that primarily makes simulation software for military clients. That's were the money is made, not DCS. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
alphacharlieecho Posted April 12, 2013 Author Posted April 12, 2013 Crickets are loud in a quiet room We all have bad days... You are wrong on all accounts. I have one of the most detailed Ka-50 simpits in the world (in function) and I assure you it is possible to have fun in DCS MP in it's current form. The line about the DEVs was uncalled for. I've already forgiven you, so best of luck to you. Great, now get you and everyone like you together and give me .25 cents and I can maybe get back $3 that I wasted on combined arms. Eventually you will start losing people in your squad to various reasons and interests and there will not be any one to replenish your ranks.
Jona33 Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 Great, now get you and everyone like you together and give me .25 cents and I can maybe get back $3 that I wasted on combined arms. Eventually you will start losing people in your squad to various reasons and interests and there will not be any one to replenish your ranks. Optimistic little fella aren't you? Always remember. I don't have a clue what I'm doing
alphacharlieecho Posted April 12, 2013 Author Posted April 12, 2013 There is no "serious voice chat" in such a thing as "public server". Choose one of the two, protected server good comms, or public server and random comms. Welcome to the internet. ;) Maybe this will change, if you try bigger letters and capital... Many games have a voice chat built in. Even if you dont have a mic you are connected to the voice server so at least you can hear important details.
alphacharlieecho Posted April 12, 2013 Author Posted April 12, 2013 NONPROFIT DCS And that is why DCS is just a side/pet project of Eagle Dynamics that primarily makes simulation software for military clients. That's were the money is made, not DCS. I am almost positive that ED sat down and had a serious meeting about how important this project was to the company even if it did not prove financially viable. LMFAO
Mustang Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 I have done everything I can do and had fun with the phoenix dedicated servers but when their TS went down it was worthless. nothing worse than idiots who can join a server running a game that has fairly high system requirements but not run TS cause they explain in type they do not have a microphone. WTF The 104th Phoenix will have the TS back up very soon, you happened to fly online at a time when it went down for a few days (and that's not often!)
Pikey Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 Many games have a voice chat built in. Even if you dont have a mic you are connected to the voice server so at least you can hear important details. Yep and I switch them all off because I hate listening to people whining. What software company in their right mind would develop yet another voice comms app. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING *
sgibson Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 He has a point tough .... Due to lack of time I can't fly on a regular basis and therefore I can't really commit to squadron. I want to jump into the pit and do some missions - even more fun to do it with real people. However, there aren't a lot of servers around and sometimes only 2-3 people are flying. You must be lucky if they are on TS. Plus TS is annoying. You need to find the right room. Ask around for server passwords. Listen to people chatting about stuff although they aren't flying, ... . I could never make TARS to run by the way! Since FC3 it gets also pretty lame flying an A-10. You start - get shot down due to fast movers. Also many servers have strange stuff enabled/disabled such as not being able to hide the cockpit so you get a better view. If I could make a wish it would be: a) Add Comms directly into DCS and make frequencies work (no hassle with TS) b) Provide DCS public servers for different scenarios (A-G, A-A, Mixed with fast movers, Blue vs. Red, ...). I don't see the reason why DCS has no servers running for the community. I can't cost that much. ANNNDDDD my biggest wish would be something like a dynamic campaign from Falcon. I actually tend to fly BMS Falcon recently due to the immersion that "stuff is happening around me".
Para_Bellum Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 I was about to say: "Hey, just give me a shout and I'll give you the password for our server and let you know when we play MP again. We usually fly at least 2-3 times a week and fly coordinated missions, often with a human JTAC, are 'serious', yet relaxed people and welcome every skill level". Then, I thought, nope. I'd rather not. :music_whistling: 1
ENO Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) I am new to flight sims as of Jan 2013 and have put a fair amount of time towards learning everything I can. So, my view on this should carry some weight... In 3 months your view wouldn't carry any weight if you were working a counter at MacDonalds... nevermind convince anyone in these forums- dev or otherwise- that your ample frustration is any more pertinent than the rest of ours. You think you're communicating some ground breaking discovery or that we're all contendedly treading water between badly needed updates? If you'd stop looking through your straw and take in the bigger picture you'd see that everyone in this community (meaning the community of people who are in here trying trying to make this work) have ALREADY stated every point you have ad nauseum. The reason you get the flagerant response is that we've all been down this road before... we've had our freakouts and realized it doesn't do anyone any good at all so we plug away and try and resolve the issues as best we can. It'll be ready when it's ready and no amount of exclamation marks and caps is going to fast forward the process. Want a server that has 20+ people in it all the time with integrated / dedicated TS3 or communications? Well... do what others did: START ONE. And then, once you've put all your energy into that and failed- wipe the sweat off your brow and come in here with an opinion. Low is he on the totem pole of opinion he who hasn't yet whittled (for more than 3 months) As important as you think you are because you've dumped something like 50 dollars on software (sorry- or was it 70?) in 3 months and can't play online with a group that is desirable to you- I'm sorry to break it to you but it's not going to speed up the process. Edited April 12, 2013 by ENO "ENO" Type in anger and you will make the greatest post you will ever regret. "Sweetest's" Military Aviation Art
alphacharlieecho Posted April 12, 2013 Author Posted April 12, 2013 Voice Server Yep and I switch them all off because I hate listening to people whining. What software company in their right mind would develop yet another voice comms app. UBI Ghost Recon Online is free to play and that has an amazing voice server!! Come to think about it just about everey team based game I have played lately has voice coms. No one likes being in a team based atmosphere without voice coms. Make al the excuses you want but any server worth plaing on has people talking and ill take good comuncation over player skill any day.
alphacharlieecho Posted April 12, 2013 Author Posted April 12, 2013 He has a point tough .... However, there aren't a lot of servers around and sometimes only 2-3 people are flying. You must be lucky if they are on TS. Plus TS is annoying. Phoenix air to ground is the best server I have found with the exception of what you have mentioned. I Have prolly 17-18k invested in my computer system/monitors/additional hardare and they restrict you to a cockpit view. very aggravating to someone with a setup like mine. I can appreciate the concept of not wanting people to cheat by seeing through the cockpit but there is a view that padlocks you so you are restricted to what a pilot would see anyway. Other than that I had zero issues with the folks in the phoenix. Made good friends quickly and the TS has many different channels people can drop down to for off topic chat. Even still I learned more from one day in there than I ever could have in these damn forums with their anti-archiving mentality. Anyone from phoenix reading this please for the love of god fix the view restrictions and stop making every combat station a sam city!!!
sgibson Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 Anyone from phoenix reading this please for the love of god fix the view restrictions and stop making every combat station a sam city!!! I was actually referring to the Phoenix server as well having the Cockpit-less View disabled. Very annoying.
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