American, German, but where's the Brits?

[NineLine]

Providing the data is available I would still like to see a Zero done to the level of the P-51D regardless of peoples perceptions based on older games ;)

 

I am confused. I'm pretty sure that a WW2 aircraft carrier wasn't 2000m long and 200m wide.

 

Sure, it's fun flying the American side in PTO because it's a one-way slaughter. Flying the Japanese side is cool only if you are explicitly looking to win as a big underdog. In my opinion, the Ki-84 (and maybe the N1K2-J) are reasonable opponents, but they were never as numerous as the A6M.

 

Most of my PTO experience is from Aces High, not Il-2 (but I have flown PTO in that sim, too). I participated in large-scale scenarios with hundreds of pilots on either side. In the Coral Sea scenario, everyone switched teams after a few frames in order to experience the other side. Regardless of the pilots, the USN side routed the IJN. This is despite the fact that the A6M2 is faster and turns better than the Wildcat...

:joystick:

[sobek]

But they also have one of these beasts.

 

 

Hawker Sea Fury

 

 

Exactly, there can be no Spit until i get the Sea Fury first. :D

[gavagai]

Providing the data is available I would still like to see a Zero done to the level of the P-51D regardless of peoples perceptions based on older games ;)

 

Cool, I look forward to lots of burning Zekes and forum posts about why ED would sell them a fighter that can't compete with the others.:D:D

[NineLine]

why ED would sell them a fighter that can't compete with the others.:D:D

 

Sounds like a typical day in any flight sim forum... the plane may change but the message is the same :)

[Jona33]

Exactly, there can be no Spit until i get the Sea Fury first. :D

 

Definitely, wasn't it a sea fury that once brought down a Mig-15 in Korea?

[bigian]

Spitfire? I wouldn't mind a tornado!

 

Whaddaya mean wrong timeframe?

 

Oh my god a tornado gr - now that would make my year oh and of course Nevada would be the icing on lithe cake!

[joey45]

A Corsair sure would be nice though. Maybe with some naval ops thrown in for good measure? Yummy!

 

Then we'll need some British Carriers......:joystick:

 

 

Because we started flying them off our many carriers before you......:D

[mr_mojo97]

Well i was originally only talking about ww2 aircraft, but as we're now talking current, yes Tornado GR4 and either a shar or GR7/9 would be nice if a decent amount of technical info can be gleaned from the MOD. My worry is though we're also talking so current that available information will be scarce so what's the point. Same as with loads of people wanting the superbug and others the raptor or lightening 2 - nice but is the USF or USN going to gve is this access? No of course not, no where near. This study sim (in my opinion) should be based around aircraft where at least 80% of flight dynamics and avionics suites information is available. Otherwise we may as well just go back to fsx and pretend that we're flying/ using / knowing these aircraft systems.

[sobek]

Definitely, wasn't it a sea fury that once brought down a Mig-15 in Korea?

 

I don't care, i just want that mother of all radials. :)

[Viperrm64]

In rememberance to those brave pilots of 617 Sqdn "The Dambusters" who last night at R.A.F.Scampton celebrated their 70th Anniversary.A 617Sqdn Tornado GR-4 would be a great addition especially if someone did a skin of one or both of the specially painted 617 Sqdn Tornado GR-4's that took part in yesterdays precedings.

LET US NOT FORGET.

Edited May 17, 2013 by Viperrm64

[Lucas_From_Hell]

The things I would do for a Mark IXc... Beautiful aircraft, and it would fit well with the Dora and the Mustang after all :D PS: A Spitfire could also be a pretty good push towards an European T.O. map (although they ended up in use pretty much anywhere, in and after the war) :music_whistling:

 

Well i was originally only talking about ww2 aircraft, but as we're now talking current, yes Tornado GR4 and either a shar or GR7/9 would be nice if a decent amount of technical info can be gleaned from the MOD. My worry is though we're also talking so current that available information will be scarce so what's the point. Same as with loads of people wanting the superbug and others the raptor or lightening 2 - nice but is the USF or USN going to gve is this access? No of course not, no where near. This study sim (in my opinion) should be based around aircraft where at least 80% of flight dynamics and avionics suites information is available. Otherwise we may as well just go back to fsx and pretend that we're flying/ using / knowing these aircraft systems.

 

RAZBAM's developing a study sim for the Harrier GR.9 to be released after their AV-8B+ module. There has been an announcement from Metal2Mesh (who are partners in RAZBAM and are working with them on most of their modules) that a Tornado GR.4 is "already signed up for DCS" (see here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1759638&postcount=347). Although no information on the level of fidelity was released yet, I'm inclined to say, judging by M2M and RAZBAM's usual work, that it will also be a high-fidelity module just like any other.

 

Things are looking good for British aircraft. Besides RAZBAM/Metal2Mesh, the fine team at VEAO is bringing us the Hawk (which is in a pretty neat stage of development :thumbup:) and the Typhoon as well. A Spitfire would be the cherry on the cake :D

 

EDIT: For those interested, a review of RAZBAM's Flight Simulator GR.7/GR.9, for an idea http://asn.aerosoft.com/?page_id=22992

Edited May 17, 2013 by Lucas_From_Hell

[Frostie]

Oh man, I want a Sea Harrier now, damn those flying temptresses and their seductive ways.

[whitehot]

Spitfire? I wouldn't mind a tornado!

 

Whaddaya mean wrong timeframe?

 

 

exactly

[Ala13_ManOWar]

I am confused. I'm pretty sure that a WW2 aircraft carrier wasn't 2000m long and 200m wide.

 

Sure, it's fun flying the American side in PTO because it's a one-way slaughter. Flying the Japanese side is cool only if you are explicitly looking to win as a big underdog. In my opinion, the Ki-84 (and maybe the N1K2-J) are reasonable opponents, but they were never as numerous as the A6M.

 

Most of my PTO experience is from Aces High, not Il-2 (but I have flown PTO in that sim, too). I participated in large-scale scenarios with hundreds of pilots on either side. In the Coral Sea scenario, everyone switched teams after a few frames in order to experience the other side. Regardless of the pilots, the USN side routed the IJN. This is despite the fact that the A6M2 is faster and turns better than the Wildcat... :joystick:

Sorry, I didn't expressed OK, I mean if you operated a P-51 in a long concrete runway you know how it performs, now imagine that behaviour trying to take-off in a CA strip, and landing... at DCS level with AFMs like P-51 that would be an amazing experience and I want it NOW :thumbup:.

 

Of course I understand what you mean, with adequate tactics you win Reisen with a Wildcat, OK. But I tell you may be your counterpart didn't knew how to get the best of the Reisen like you know how yo get the best of Wildcat :smilewink:. Reisen especially in first half of war is far superior to Wildcat, you said it's faster at turns better, and still lose? I dare to say it's pilots didn't knew what to do with it. And of course Il-2 model are rubbish, that can't be taken as any reference.

 

 

Whatever, I'm wondering or we were talking about Spitfire?? :lol:

 

S!

[gavagai]

Ok, yes, I agree that carrier ops with WW2 birds would be pretty cool with DCS level FMs!

 

As for the Wildcat and A6M, the Wildcat wins for two reasons: ammunition capacity and durability. The A6M2 only has 120 rounds of 20mm ammunition (60 rounds per gun), and the Wildcat can take multiple shell hits and continue flying. The A6M's twin 7.7mm machine guns are next to useless. On the other hand, the F4F-3 carries 1800 rounds of 50 cal ammunition (450 rounds per gun * 4 guns), which is 34 seconds firing time! The Wildcat pilot is free to shoot liberally, and if he gets lucky, the A6M is crippled from a short burst.

 

1 vs 1 the A6M is at a distinct advantage, but as soon as the fight becomes multi vs multi and wingman tactics come into play, the Wildcat is a big favorite to win.

 

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Oh yes, the Spitfire. Sorry for the OT conversation.:P

[leafer]

You have The Cure what more do you need?

[Cookie]

Then we'll need some British Carriers......:joystick:

 

Because we started flying them off our many carriers before you......:D

Didn´t know the Luftwaffe flew Corsairs in WW2. ;)

 

Oh, and flying them off your carriers before us must have been quite a difficult task, as our grand total of carriers in WW2 was a whopping zero. :D

[Kaktus29]

actually come to think about it DCS:Pacific '41-'45 ..could be nice to do, especially since no Theater is needed, just losts of effin ocean)) .. so a little bit weather simulation and ocean-wave states that would change from 1-5 according to the weather..and CV with jap and US planes..

 

and a very non-dcs-simulated battleships and destroyers,and subs to just get the right atmosphere if the era.. not really need for DCS hardcore every bolt simulated stuff for the ships..

[bilbosmeggins]

Can't have all this lot going on without the scream from the Stukas.

[Royraiden]

I would support any future WW2 era plane , but since we already got the Mustang in soon the 190, more planes from the West Europe theater would make more sense.B-17,B-24,109 even the 262.

[Rogue Trooper]

Spit would be great!

Fury would be incredible.

Bearcat F8 would be devine... sorry..

[NineLine]

 

Can't have all this lot going on without the scream from the Stukas.

[mr_mojo97]

Ahh, old British war films, you can't beat em

[theGozr]

Yak-9U :)

[Buren]

Okay, if we ever get to the the Spit Mk XIV, I might just jump into this DCS WW2 craze. (And by then, we'll perhaps have a more complete period plane/equipment set) :P