ED Team Wags Posted June 16, 2013 ED Team Posted June 16, 2013 Now that this is public... Edited link as website is no longer active and is not secure We are sure that Kinny Interactive will be doing a great job! Matt Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544
Nate--IRL-- Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Nice! Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
outlawal2 Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Sign me up! "Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence." RAMBO
SmokeyTheLung Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Wow! Awesome news!!! System specifications: Computer, joystick, DCS world, Beer
Gh0st007 Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Hell's to the yeah, sounds good. My system specification i9 13900000K/Game board - 64GB of random access memory / Galax 7090/ ViewSonic Elite XG320Q 32 Screen of monitor/ VPC Collective - VPC Sharka50 Grip / Trackir 5/ TPR/ Orion2 F/A-18 Throttle/VPC WarBRD Base/ Hornet grip/F-16 grip/ and most of all a ham sandwich.
basset Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 :) [sIGPIC]http://www.jg53.com/images/sigs/general/sig1.png[/sIGPIC]
EchoMasterMind Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Great news! With all of these third party modules coming, we're going to be really busy learning them all :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
dooom Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 wow - is there enough public material to even model thsi eith any exactitude or will this have some liberties made in terms of fantasy? ASUS Tuf Gaming Pro x570 / AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ 3.8 / XFX Radeon 6900 XT / 64 GB DDR4 3200 "This was not in the Manual I did not read", cried the Noob" - BMBM, WWIIOL
Mike Busutil Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) I hope it ends up being a $200 module ;) This way there are not 500 of them flying all over the place. Can't wait to preorder this one on 6/21/2013. Edited June 16, 2013 by Mike Busutil [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Checkout my user files here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/user-is-Mike Busutil/apply/
kk0425 Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 wow - is there enough public material to even model thsi eith any exactitude or will this have some liberties made in terms of fantasy? This was my initial concern too, but from their website they they they have more than enough information to make an accurate model of it's avionics. I'm very interested in this model. Too bad it's not the B variant though.
SkateZilla Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) Will be definitely keeping an eye on this but... Working around this aircraft, I'd be shocked that there is enough public data to go off of to replicate the bare vehicle dynamics of this appropriately, let alone the very advance flight controls systems, and the even more crazily complex missions systems. It's just an insurmountable task to replicate what 24 MILLION LINES OF CODE DOES! It just boggles my mind how complex the thing is, I mean the mission software has been in development for well over a decade and the bugs and issues with it are still keeping it as the highest risk item for the F-35. I guess the thing is, if you don't model it accurately and just make stuff up, no one will know but a slight few... This is why I am very skeptical of any DCS aircraft derived from aircraft post 2000 (the DCS A-10C is a special case where they had access to privleged data). Maybe this developer will have such access to, but that seems highly unlikely. All the best of luck, but I just wanted to give my opinion on the matter. EDIT: Just went over the site, this guy definitely has a ton of sim experience but it's just the scope of the matter that really scares me (I work in flight simulation too). Also as stated on the site "within the availability of non-classified information, the avionics system.. will be faithfully emulated". I am fairly confident in saying there is very little of substance in regards to F-35 avionics except for high level details that is Distribution A Unclassified. Ditto, Best of luck to kinneyinteractive Edited June 16, 2013 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Mike Busutil Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) "KinkyInteractive" You're thinking of another website... Edited May 25, 2021 by Mike Busutil [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Checkout my user files here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/user-is-Mike Busutil/apply/
eagle13 Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Hi guys I'm Kinney from Kinney Interactive and I wanted to make myself available for questions... Thanks 4
GGTharos Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Hi Kinney, Just a general question, how realistically do you believe that you can model the F-35A? I mean, in terms of flight dynamics to begin with at least :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
eagle13 Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Great question - I feel best about the aero model. Based on surface area, weight, size and dynamics of the control surfaces, interviews with test pilots and pilots that have flown against the Lightning. Now we won’t be perfect – but we will be very close – AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO MODIFY AND CHANGE WITH NEW INFORMATION. Starting this project I knew there would be classified ranges and operating limits of avionic equipment, but even this I believe can be overcome with crew interface logic that will rival the traveling simulator. But aerodynamics – we get it!!
eagle13 Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 And yes, we will need all the luck and support we can get... but as they say - the harder we work, the luckier we get
SkateZilla Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Your thinking of another website... Fixed Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Rotorhead Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Rather shocking news indeed, especially since I just woke up. :) To be honest, my first line of thinking was "wait, it's April 1st again???" But they seem to be serious. According to their website: Within the availably of non-classified information, the avionic systems of the F-35A will be faithfully emulated. There is far more public information than you may imagine... I have no idea how many information on F-35 is really classified, but general opinion on this forum was "enough to not be possibly modeled to DCS level". Now there comes somebody who claims the opposite. If they're right, it would be great (although I'm not a great fan of F-35 in general), but what I really don't want is DCS turning slowly into HAWX. So I hope they're right and those who said "impossible" were wrong. You know, never say something is impossible to do, because there might come somebody who does not know and gets it done. ;)
cichlidfan Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) How is this 'with or without DCS World' going to work? EDIT: To be more precise, if it works without DCS World what is the environment? Edited June 16, 2013 by cichlidfan ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
kk0425 Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 I'm curious as to how much the stealth factor will play into this sim.
Mike Busutil Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Is there a time frame yet for release? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Checkout my user files here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/user-is-Mike Busutil/apply/
cichlidfan Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Is there a time frame yet for release? Was about to ask the same? Though I would guess late 2014 at the earliest. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Mike Busutil Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 Since this is the F-35A, this mean's she does not have the VTOL capability? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Checkout my user files here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/user-is-Mike Busutil/apply/
Evil.Bonsai Posted June 16, 2013 Posted June 16, 2013 This was my initial concern too, but from their website they they they have more than enough information to make an accurate model of it's avionics. I'm very interested in this model. Too bad it's not the B variant though. Yup. The B is the only one I'd be interested in.... ...zipping low-level through a mountainous pass, slow, take a tight left-hander, land on a hidden FOB; refuel, rearm, launch a surprise attack on a column of unprotected (by air defenses) armor.
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