Davis0079 Posted July 26, 2013 Posted July 26, 2013 according to the manual it does....I just dont want to argue with the others It only takes two things to fly, Airspeed and Money.
RagnarDa Posted July 26, 2013 Posted July 26, 2013 The laser coded position materializes as a 2D grid using a high frequency sweep. I dont understand, please explain. DCS AJS37 HACKERMAN There will always be bugs. If everything is a priority nothing is.
159th_Falcon Posted July 26, 2013 Posted July 26, 2013 When you launch a Vikhr, the laser sweeps continously left/right and up/down to create a grid. something like this; The vikhr missile has sensors looking AFT (towards the KA50) and tries to stay within the projected grid. Now ofcourse, the grid needs to be a bit more complicated then the above to make things actually work. But lets not go into that. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
BaD CrC Posted July 26, 2013 Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) Thanks for answering Falcon. For those who want to 'go into that', the grid scale is maintained by a small lens in front of the laser emitter which moves according to the time since launch so that the size of the grid stays the same while the missile is flying to its target and decoding its position. Edited July 26, 2013 by BaD CrC https://www.blacksharkden.com http://discord.gg/blacksharkden
TurboHog Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 But you should be warned when the T90's laser operates in rangefinding mode. The guidance mode indicator may not light up. (although it does light up when a vikhr is incoming. Doesnt make sense then...) 'Frett'
yoann_q Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 in BS2 may be there is a kind of priority into the LWS model, so telemetry more than guidance ? i'll reinstall BS1 to see the difference
TurboHog Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 I don't recognize the problem... T90's laser in range finding mode is detected by my LWS. 'Frett'
Maverick-X Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 I just googled it and the AT-11 is a beam riding system.....means we probably should get a warning I want to say I've noticed it too...but I thought maybe they were shooting tow missiles....wire guided....no lwr warning Are you sure its a AT-11 coming out of the tank gun and not a tow from the launcher on the side of the tank..... I'm just curious... arent even wireguided missiles reffering to lasermeasured target position information?
Davis0079 Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 wired guided has a 10 mile long thin wire that comes out connecting the missile to the launcher......and I have been lead to believe that the early versions where guided by the high powered camera and tv....... the missile was not guided by a laser....the operator just watched it with the tv and steered it left,right,up,down onto target.....the camera has a sensor that sees the missile and changes its course to keep it in line with your sights by sending corrections down the wire.....Tube-launched, Optically-tracked, Wire-guided ....once again my mental image of a real TOW (Tube-launched, Optically-tracked, Wire-guided missile) is the vietnam era equipment ...... I'm sure if you google it you will find some much more advanced systems.... ...the key words here are "Optically Tracked"........no laser used..... It only takes two things to fly, Airspeed and Money.
Bushmanni Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 I'm not aware of any wire quided ATGM with more than about 4km range, which is limited by the length of wire. Early missiles were controlled directly, ie. push joystick left and missile turns left, which I think wasn't very easy or accurate. Modern missiles (optically tracked) have a flare or laser beacon at the aft of the missile which a sensor in launcher camera system tracks. The system tries to keep the missile centered to the crosshairs so that the missile hits what the gunner is aiming at. Obviously the laser beacon is visible only to the shooter. DCS Finland: Suomalainen DCS yhteisö -- Finnish DCS community -------------------------------------------------- SF Squadron
Davis0079 Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 i was just guessedamating on the wire lenght.....4k sounds more accurate It only takes two things to fly, Airspeed and Money.
Mar044 Posted August 11, 2013 Posted August 11, 2013 All of the Soviet/Russian tank cannon-launched missiles are laser beam riders.. no, a few fire wire guided or radio command guideded, your thinking of range finder. Call Sign -Winter- "The North Never Forgets"
DAZnBLAST Posted April 6, 2015 Posted April 6, 2015 I got shot down in my KA50 by a T72B who fired two AT11 missiles at me. No LWS alert at all. Is that a bug? DCS version 1.2.16.37730. My Hangar: F16C | FA18C | AH64D | F14A/B | M2000C | AV8B | A10C/ii | KA50/iii | Chinook | UH1H | OH58 | Gazelle | FC3 | CA | Supercarrier My Spec: Obsidian750D Airflow | Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K | 128GB DDR4 Vengeance @3600 | RTX3080 12GB OC | ZXR PCIe | WD Black 2TB SSD | Log X56 | Log G502 | TrackIR | 1 badass mutha
ED Team Raptor9 Posted April 6, 2015 ED Team Posted April 6, 2015 I got shot down in my KA50 by a T72B who fired two AT11 missiles at me. No LWS alert at all. Is that a bug? DCS version 1.2.16.37730. According to Wikipedia, the AT-11/9M119 is a laser beamrider, so assuming Wiki is accurate, I guess you should have gotten one. Bug? Maybe. I guess it depends on the laser strength. Afterburners are for wussies...hang around the battlefield and dodge tracers like a man. DCS Rotor-Head
Blackeye Posted April 6, 2015 Posted April 6, 2015 I got shot down in my KA50 by a T72B who fired two AT11 missiles at me. No LWS alert at all. Is that a bug? DCS version 1.2.16.37730. Are you sure you had LWS turned on? Track? A short test vs a T72B produced a range finding warning for me (no guidance warning though).
Isegrim Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) No. The Vikhr, as with all beam riders, rotates within a laser grid. No - grid too weak to be detected. If the guidance of the Laser is to weak to lit the LWS up ....why is it working if I launch a Vikhr forwards an enemy KA 50 in MP without rangefinder cycle. (laserguidance is on for 12 seconds IIRC) Edited April 7, 2015 by Isegrim "Blyat Naaaaa" - Izlom
flanker0ne Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 For certain the propulsion's nozzles are misplaced. They should be 2 on either sides of the middle section, like in the Vikhr, instead of 1 in the rear. SCOPRI DI PIU': https://www.amvi.it/joinus.php DISCORD COMBINEDOPS The Battle Planning Tool
DAZnBLAST Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Sure I did, I did auto start (lazy I know)! Cannot upload trk, exceeds allowed 5mb limit. Are you sure you had LWS turned on? Track? A short test vs a T72B produced a range finding warning for me (no guidance warning though). Edited April 8, 2015 by DAZnBLAST My Hangar: F16C | FA18C | AH64D | F14A/B | M2000C | AV8B | A10C/ii | KA50/iii | Chinook | UH1H | OH58 | Gazelle | FC3 | CA | Supercarrier My Spec: Obsidian750D Airflow | Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K | 128GB DDR4 Vengeance @3600 | RTX3080 12GB OC | ZXR PCIe | WD Black 2TB SSD | Log X56 | Log G502 | TrackIR | 1 badass mutha
Blackeye Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 Sure I did, I did auto start (lazy I know)! Cannot upload trk, exceeds allowed 5mb limit. Well there's other options: Dropbox, GoogleDrive, etc. A track is really the best option to check what was going on or to reproduce the bug.
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