-MadCat- Posted August 24, 2013 Posted August 24, 2013 Hey to all you UH-1 crazed. Let me start with saying, it's not my attention to complain or to force anything out of BST. So I ask anyone who plans to only comment with "[...] meh, all the complaining always, it's beta, wait and see [..]" to not comment at all in the first place and let those who are interested in information be heard. Thanks in advance! What I'd like to do is, on behalf of everyone who's asking oneself the same questions, to very politely ask BST if they have any new information worth sharing with us. It's 1,5 months since we last heard anything regarding the development stage of the UH-1. Looking at some recent threads, there are concerns about no new info for quite some time among the community. Please, BST, give us new information about what's going on. Neither am I asking for a release date, nor for when we get the next game update. Just asking for some information that no doubt will be appreciated by everyone, even by those who don't admit it and tell everyone else to stay calm. Thank you ! MadCat Link -> Stateful button commands for many DCS modules
sondo214 Posted August 24, 2013 Posted August 24, 2013 Hey to all you UH-1 crazed. Let me start with saying, it's not my attention to complain or to force anything out of BST. So I ask anyone who plans to only comment with "[...] meh, all the complaining always, it's beta, wait and see [..]" to not comment at all in the first place and let those who are interested in information be heard. Thanks in advance! What I'd like to do is, on behalf of everyone who's asking oneself the same questions, to very politely ask BST if they have any new information worth sharing with us. It's 1,5 months since we last heard anything regarding the development stage of the UH-1. Looking at some recent threads, there are concerns about no new info for quite some time among the community. Please, BST, give us new information about what's going on. Neither am I asking for a release date, nor for when we get the next game update. Just asking for some information that no doubt will be appreciated by everyone, even by those who don't admit it and tell everyone else to stay calm. Thank you ! MadCat I Agree!
ebabil Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 it is impossible to come across with a bst developer nowadays FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Lizzard Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Dudes..keep in mind..there are Holidays right now.. My Specs: I don`t care..it is a Computer..a black one..
Rammit Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Don't forget the Mi-8! It's been announced and we have been told "it's close" but apart from that, NADA! "If the MWS didn't see it, it didn't happen"
TurboHog Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Communication with the community is not one of their strong points. Look at the newsflashes from Studio Beczl. Some behind the scenes screenshots to tease and just to let you know they're working on it would be nice to see from BST... 'Frett'
Evilducky Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Good luck.. You have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting some constant flow of information from them. Hell... I dont think there were even going to tell us of the price change for the Huey.. lol.
Rammit Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 I mean absolutely no offence BST, I love your Huey and I am confident that the Mi-8 will be just as amazing, but if I could make just one suggestion, take a page from studio beczl, maybe not weekly, but every two weeks, give us a small update, some screens maybe, just to keep us informed, I will obviously buy the Mi-8 on day one, but it would be better from the customers point of view to get some updates now and again. Many thanks, Rammit "If the MWS didn't see it, it didn't happen"
Snoopy Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 They're working....would you rather the spend 90% of their time on the boards or programming? IMO programming wins! v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
J7G Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 They're working....would you rather the spend 90% of their time on the boards or programming? IMO programming wins! I don't think that's really the point. It's not a choice of "90% here or there," it's not a zero sum game. Some more comms would be great, I'm a patient guy but this lack of comms is getting a big frustrating. Especially for a beta.
IonicRipper Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 Not only that but the Mi-8 is nearly out yet we know almost nothing about it. i5 4590 @ 3.77GHz | GTX 1060 6GB | 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 | 1TB HDD+500GB HDD | Win10 Home X64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Lizzard Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 ...at least there are some Screenshots around...so there is happening something...but how about ED?!?! I mean..we all wait for the F-18 or the SU-27 in DCS Level...but there is absolutley NOTHING...I searched the Formus like mad..because I want a Fighter in DCS...I found nothing...no Information on Development at all. A Fighter is really missing here..if I would be in ED...the DCS Level Fighter would be Prio 1..because EVERYBODY is waiting for it:joystick: My Specs: I don`t care..it is a Computer..a black one..
pbishop Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 I feel pretty informed. I have the latest beta version, they have already announced everything they are working on. What is it you guys want, for them to waste time on the forums telling you they are still working on those things they already announced? They obviously aren't done, and as threads like this prove, I doubt they will announce anything they have planned after for fear of being hounded by the impatient (thanks by the way, because I do like news, especially the kind that gives me something to look forward to). paulrkiii put my thoughts forward best. But to be honest, you guys asking for info all the time are the minority, not the other way around. Why not try and find something else to do (like actually play dcs) while you wait for more news?
Galwran Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 I feel pretty informed. I have the latest beta version, they have already announced everything they are working on. What is it you guys want, for them to waste time on the forums telling you they are still working on those things they already announced? They obviously aren't done, and as threads like this prove, I doubt they will announce anything they have planned after for fear of being hounded by the impatient (thanks by the way, because I do like news, especially the kind that gives me something to look forward to). paulrkiii put my thoughts forward best. But to be honest, you guys asking for info all the time are the minority, not the other way around. Why not try and find something else to do (like actually play dcs) while you wait for more news? It took me less than a minute to say this. I wish they could spare ten to say at least something.
zaelu Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 I heard that in September they wish to release Mi-8 beta. That is great but, with such little info and the "Huey sale" problem the buying speed I think it will be very slow and adding the fact that complains will exist (that's a given :D ) they might have a bad taste about it and this will not help but further aggravate this "no info" attitude. You can see in individual people such depressive attitude. They don't talk, they expect everyone will know and appreciate their artistic work... obviously this does not happens because little people know about it and the ones who know are mostly "critics"... then the depression deepens... even less info is released for further work... and so on.. And that is... depressive :D. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
VincentLaw Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 ...at least there are some Screenshots around...so there is happening something...but how about ED?!?! I mean..we all wait for the F-18 or the SU-27 in DCS Level...but there is absolutley NOTHING.. You know the models are already in-game right? If you want Flanker/Hornet screens, you can make them yourself. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
pbishop Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 It took me less than a minute to say this. I wish they could spare ten to say at least something. They are probably more productive in a minute :lol:
Hunden Ynk Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 More info -> More dreaded waiting... Less info -> Grand surprise! ;)
TurboHog Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 The 'let us ask nothing and let them do their job' argument is invalid imo. Do you seriously think that collecting some screenshots and writing down a few lines about the progress they've made is going to slow down the development process? In theory yes, but it is not significant and the happy, well informed community is well worth it. News updates also attract attention as people share these things on other forums and facebook. If every update would at least attract one potential customer it would be already be a great investment [the time to write an update]. But seriously, saying that it is not worth it because it slows down development is like saying that I'm always looking in the past because light reflected from the object I'm looking at travels at 30000km/s and thus needs some time to get to my eyes. 'Frett'
Lizzard Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 You know the models are already in-game right? If you want Flanker/Hornet screens, you can make them yourself. Models?! I am not talking about Screenshots..you know for example there are pretty good Models for the UH-60 and the OH-58 already in Game..what should me tell that?!?!...is there any Development going on that we are all not aware off??! I am not complaining. I just wonder:) My Specs: I don`t care..it is a Computer..a black one..
jay43 Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 I don't think there is any thing wrong with them keeping tight lipped about whats in the next update. To say anything about what we would be getting would only result in the community here holding them to it if you don't say anything you can't be held accountable. Currently ED don't say anything about updates until its ready and rolled out then you get a list of whats included and maybe a teaser or 2 of what they are currently working on with no dates for release. Eagles may soar high but weasel's don't get sucked into jet engines. System Spec. Monitors: Samsung 570DX & Rift CV1 Mobo: MSI Godlike gaming X-99A CPU: Intel i7 5930K @ 3.50Ghz RAM: 32gb GPU: EVGA Nvidia GTX 980Ti VR Ready Cooling: Predator 360 Power Supply: OCZ ZX Series 80 Plus Gold Drives: Samsung SSD's 1tb, 500g plus others with OS Win10 64 bit
chaos Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 The 'let us ask nothing and let them do their job' argument is invalid imo. Do you seriously think that collecting some screenshots and writing down a few lines about the progress they've made is going to slow down the development process? No it won't. However, if there's nothing to announce other than 'we're making progress on DCS:Fighter', why would they? They might as well write a script and have it posted automatically on the forum every Monday. Is that what you want? Be patient. I'm sure they'll let us know as soon as there's anything worthwhile to share. They've always done it in the past... "It's not the years, honey. It's the mileage..."
TurboHog Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 No it won't. However, if there's nothing to announce other than 'we're making progress on DCS:Fighter', why would they? They might as well write a script and have it posted automatically on the forum every Monday. Is that what you want? Be patient. I'm sure they'll let us know as soon as there's anything worthwhile to share. They've always done it in the past... The Mi-8 is approaching the final stages of development so there is enough to tease about. If updates for the Mig-21 are interesting, how could the almost beta DCS: Mi-8 require an automated script for updates? I think it's important for a developer to let potential buyers know what is going on behind the scenes. Look at how games these days are promoted long before they will be released. A good example is Rome II Total War, which owes much of it's support and pre-orders to the many preview and behind-the-scenes video's. I don't understand why some people on these forums consider newsflashes, screenshot updates as not necessary. You should think of it as an investment for BST. One that will pay for itself after release or during pre-order. 'Frett'
TimeKilla Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) This seems to be a general issue with Belsimtek. The Huey really rocked big time but the price drop a month later in beta stages never got an official comment so only the hardcore like myself will buy new products in beta stage on day one. When you look around the other main third party forums there so much information and actively between the Dev's talking to the community. They will do great as there pumping out these top grade helicopters but they could do better if they handled their fans and community better, it does not take a lot of time to jump on a forum and engage with the community. I was surprised at how much time the Relic Dev's spend in the CoH2 community but then they have SEGA funding... Edited August 30, 2013 by TimeKilla Spelling :joystick: YouTube :pilotfly: TimeKilla on Flight Sims over at YouTube.
ebabil Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 30 Agust official update, but.. very new official update has been released but i saw no info related huey http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=112280 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
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