leafer Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 And goal of 100k is what? Barely years wage for one decent programmer. Their programmers are based in Russia and if it's anything like my country, that 100K USD pays for more programmers than RRG needs and personal housekeeper for each of them while they're at it. I agree with the rest of what you've said here. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
ED Team NineLine Posted September 12, 2013 ED Team Posted September 12, 2013 I think the P-51D was ground breaking for ED, and with all the proper data, that it will be quicker to create new Prop driven aircraft now, but that is not official opinion, just assuming on my part :) How is P-51 related to RRG exactly? I am super confused about this kickstarter. Correct me if I am wrong, but it took at least one year to create the P-51D alone? And now by the September 2014 RRG will create 3-4 more planes at the same level? It just doesn't add up. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
jawzzy Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 I think they added a bunch of new pledge options. I was able to find something more attractive for me. Originally I got the $100+shippinmg option: ----"Everything at the $40 level, plus a hard copy of the game’s air combat strategy and tactics manual, and spiral-bound copies of complete aircraft manuals for two flyable aircraft in the game." And now I was able to change it to the $110+shipping option: You selected "Pledge $110 or more 1 backer ALPHA Tier 4. Everything at the $50 ORIGINAL level, plus a digital copy of DCS World FW-190D-9 with beta access (when available in early 2014), and a digital copy of DCS World P-51D Mustang (on successful kickstarter completion), plus ALPHA ACCESS. Estimated delivery: Feb 2014 Add $12 USD to ship outside the US " Now I'll get the DCS FW-190D9 when it DCS releases the beta, with this pledge. So I don't have to buy a copy from DCS and then get another one a year later, when DCS WW2 is released. On top of that I also get access to DCS WW@ Europe ALPHA. All for only ten extra bucks. :D I like it. I think a lot more people can find an option that they like now. Good job. Now it needs to be advertised more. NZXT-Phantom820; Gigabyte Aorus x570 Master:Ryzen 3950x Corsair H150i;AORUS GTX 1080 Ti 11G; 32GB(2x16)G.Skill Trident Z Neo 3600MHz(16-16-16-36); Aorus PCIe Gen4 m.2 NMVe 2TB SSD;Samsung EvoPlusM.2NMVe 1TB SSD;Crucial M4 128GB SSD+Crucial M4 256GB SSD: Coolermaster 1200W psu; CH Fighterstick+CH Pro pedals+Saitek X45 Win10 64bit
jawzzy Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 A lot of new pledge options. I just checked kickstarter and I found a lot of new pledge options. This was a very good idea. :thumbup: Those of you that were on the fence because you didn't find an attractive pledge please have another look. You may find something interesting. I did. Originally I got the $100+$12 shipping option: ----"Everything at the $40 level, plus a hard copy of the game’s air combat strategy and tactics manual, and spiral-bound copies of complete aircraft manuals for two flyable aircraft in the game." And now I was able to change it to the $110+shipping option: You selected "Pledge $110 or more 1 backer ALPHA Tier 4. Everything at the $50 ORIGINAL level, plus a digital copy of DCS World FW-190D-9 with beta access (when available in early 2014), and a digital copy of DCS World P-51D Mustang (on successful kickstarter completion), plus ALPHA ACCESS. Estimated delivery: Feb 2014 Add $12 USD to ship outside the US " Now I'll get the DCS FW-190D9 when it DCS releases the beta, with this pledge. So I don't have to buy a copy from DCS and then get another one a year later, when DCS WW2 is released. On top of that I also get access to DCS WW2 Europe ALPHA. All for only ten extra bucks. So if you were on the fence, or know someone that was please check the pledge options again here: You may find something more attractive for you now.:thumbup: NZXT-Phantom820; Gigabyte Aorus x570 Master:Ryzen 3950x Corsair H150i;AORUS GTX 1080 Ti 11G; 32GB(2x16)G.Skill Trident Z Neo 3600MHz(16-16-16-36); Aorus PCIe Gen4 m.2 NMVe 2TB SSD;Samsung EvoPlusM.2NMVe 1TB SSD;Crucial M4 128GB SSD+Crucial M4 256GB SSD: Coolermaster 1200W psu; CH Fighterstick+CH Pro pedals+Saitek X45 Win10 64bit
jawzzy Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 This image posted in the latest news by Ilya will clear things about the new options: NZXT-Phantom820; Gigabyte Aorus x570 Master:Ryzen 3950x Corsair H150i;AORUS GTX 1080 Ti 11G; 32GB(2x16)G.Skill Trident Z Neo 3600MHz(16-16-16-36); Aorus PCIe Gen4 m.2 NMVe 2TB SSD;Samsung EvoPlusM.2NMVe 1TB SSD;Crucial M4 128GB SSD+Crucial M4 256GB SSD: Coolermaster 1200W psu; CH Fighterstick+CH Pro pedals+Saitek X45 Win10 64bit
gavagai Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 Oh! This is very interesting news. Thanks for the heads up. I might want to revise my pledge. P-51D | Fw 190D-9 | Bf 109K-4 | Spitfire Mk IX | P-47D | WW2 assets pack | F-86 | Mig-15 | Mig-21 | Mirage 2000C | A-10C II | F-5E | F-16 | F/A-18 | Ka-50 | Combined Arms | FC3 | Nevada | Normandy | Straight of Hormuz | Syria
9.JG27 DavidRed Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 (edited) well, for me things are even more confusing now... ive pledged 215$, as im not a us citizen, and selected the 200$ reward... but in the new chart, this option/amount doesnt even exist. + in the chart, i dont seem to get alpha access, as this option is only marked from 250 and above. in the reward descriptions though, you seem to get alpha access from 50$ upwards.. +DCS World Dora beta access, in the chart its marked only from 250$ upwards, and in the reward descriptions it says, that youll get it from 100$ and above... ????? Edited September 13, 2013 by 9./JG27 DavidRed
baronWastelan Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 So many new choices, and they all result in my pledge going up from the original $40 :music_whistling:
Charly_Owl Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 (edited) Updated Charts I thought some of you might have trouble reading the updated pledge chart. Hence I remade them in a more manageable form. I don't think there are any mistakes, but if you spot any, feel free to tell me and I'll do the necessary updates. The three main editions are: DCS WWII Standard Edition DCS WWII World Edition DCS WWII Alpha Edition Edited September 13, 2013 by Charly_Owl 1 Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Chuck's Guides on Mudspike Chuck's Youtube Channel Chuck's Patreon
BabyJail Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 Sweetness! I upped my pledge, will get a P-51 as soon as kickstarter is successful and the FW190 as soon as that comes to DCS World. Leaves plenty of time for me to crash and burn (and hopefully learn) before WWII arrives! :thumbup:
Siq6Six Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 Looks like a lot of good incentive to go higher. Still getting what I wanted at $40 - so I'm happy. I'm mostly disappointed in the stretch goals. I'm sure it's just me, but I just can't get excited in the idea of flying the b17. Is it possible to have other people man the guns, or the bomb sight? Meh. I'm sure all the planes in the stretch goes will be released eventually... Just a bomber would be last on my list of all those awesome other potential options. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
SlipBall Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 well, for me things are even more confusing now... ive pledged 215$, as im not a us citizen, and selected the 200$ reward... but in the new chart, this option/amount doesnt even exist. + in the chart, i dont seem to get alpha access, as this option is only marked from 250 and above. in the reward descriptions though, you seem to get alpha access from 50$ upwards.. +DCS World Dora beta access, in the chart its marked only from 250$ upwards, and in the reward descriptions it says, that youll get it from 100$ and above... ????? David, I too did the 200. pledge, Luthier said in this update, that what you were promised you will get.
Foul Ole Ron Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 I'm mostly disappointed in the stretch goals. I'm sure it's just me, but I just can't get excited in the idea of flying the b17. Is it possible to have other people man the guns, or the bomb sight? Meh. I'm sure all the planes in the stretch goes will be released eventually... Just a bomber would be last on my list of all those awesome other potential options. It's offering initial variety I suppose. There's already going to be 5 iconic single engine birds to fly and learn inside out. A flyable B17 would offer something completely different.
Kodoss Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 You should also read the 2nd update. There is no option to edit reward descriptions if it's already been selected. However, if you've backed the project at any of the erroneous levels, you will receive BOTH the rewards in the sidebar and in the main body. We feel it's fair in hindsight; however we are not keeping the dual rewards for the future because this really increases our expenses. As I understand it, when I have pledges 100$ before rewritting the pledges, I now get both rewards (the original + the new combined).
USA_Recon Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 Count me in - updated my pledge Love the new options , to show - I updated my original $40 pledge/reward to $100 !!! Bring it on WW2 DCS! As I said, when I heard about B-17, I would double my pledge for it !
Vlerkies Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 well, for me things are even more confusing now... ive pledged 215$, as im not a us citizen, and selected the 200$ reward... but in the new chart, this option/amount doesnt even exist. + in the chart, i dont seem to get alpha access, as this option is only marked from 250 and above. in the reward descriptions though, you seem to get alpha access from 50$ upwards.. +DCS World Dora beta access, in the chart its marked only from 250$ upwards, and in the reward descriptions it says, that youll get it from 100$ and above... ????? David, I too did the 200. pledge, Luthier said in this update, that what you were promised you will get. Same here David, suitably confused already.:dunno: Thermaltake View 91, Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra, i9 9900K, Corsair H150i Pro, 32Gb Trident Z 3200, Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 2080ti, Corsair AX1200i, Warthog A-10 Hotas, MFG Crosswind pedals, TiR5 Pro, HP Reverb Pro
Roadrunner Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 hi all, i' thinking about pledging, but dont know what will suit me, as i'm totaly lost here. first of all, my personal interest would be the 109 and the spitfire, along with the fw-190d9. do i understand it correct, that the 109 and the spit are FREE for ALL players after the release? if so, then only the 190 would be of value, but that will most likely cost some 49,99$ at release. so if the first pledge step at 85$ grants me the 190, i dont see a value for me at all, as buying the 190 on release will be cheaper then via kickstarter help. is that correct? please enlighten me... regards, RR PS: i will pledge anyway, but i dont know how to decide on the ammount of money... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "There's nothing to be gained by second guessing yourself. You can't remake the past, so look ahead... or risk being left behind." Noli Timere Messorem "No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always been there first, and is waiting for it." Terry Pratchett
USA_Recon Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 this might help: http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5717
mazex Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 (edited) OK - better stretch goals now but it's getting seriously confusing ;) Went from 40 to 97 to get the Dora Beta and that T-shirt I will never wear ;) But will I get the alpha access? It says: 85+ "DCS World Tier 2. Everything at the $50 level, plus a digital copy of DCS World FW-190D-9 with beta access (when available in early 2014). Estimated delivery: Feb 2014" And there are 3 $50 offers (one of them including alpha access)... I just want the Dora and alpha access - no T-Shirt... And I have the P-51... Sigh ;) Edited September 13, 2013 by mazex Ryzen 9800X3D | RTX 5080 GPU | Gigabyte X670 Aorus Elite AX MB | 64GB 6000Mhz DDR5 | Windows 11 Pro x64 | Virpil T-50 Throttle | T50 CM2 Grip + WarBRD | VKB T-rudder MK IV | Asus PG279Q 1440p | Pimax Crystal Light VR | Samsung 980 Pro as system disk and DCS on separate Samsung 990 Pro NVME SSD
Royraiden Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 this might help: http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5717 Excellent job on the chart.I sitll dont understand why some people say that you get the 3 flyables for free.You get 1 for pledging $20,2 for $30 and 3+*for $40 or more. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
mazex Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 And I am pretty sure we will hit 100k... But the 375k we all want with a B-17 and large map feels far away :( Ryzen 9800X3D | RTX 5080 GPU | Gigabyte X670 Aorus Elite AX MB | 64GB 6000Mhz DDR5 | Windows 11 Pro x64 | Virpil T-50 Throttle | T50 CM2 Grip + WarBRD | VKB T-rudder MK IV | Asus PG279Q 1440p | Pimax Crystal Light VR | Samsung 980 Pro as system disk and DCS on separate Samsung 990 Pro NVME SSD
Roadrunner Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 I sitll dont understand why some people say that you get the 3 flyables for free. The free downloadable version of Europe 1944 will include THREE fully flyable aircraft, each arguably more famous than the next: the Republic P-47 Thunderbolt fighter/ground attack aircraft, the Supermarine Spitfire fighter, and the German Messerschmitt Bf.109K. Non-player-controllable versions of all other aircraft will also be included, allowing the players to see them in action at any time. that from the kickstarter project page. maybe i understand it wrong because english is not my native language, but to be honest, i doubt that. i realy want that project to succeed, and i think it is on a good way to hit at least the first goal, but i would also like to realy understand the "system" :-( regards, RR [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "There's nothing to be gained by second guessing yourself. You can't remake the past, so look ahead... or risk being left behind." Noli Timere Messorem "No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always been there first, and is waiting for it." Terry Pratchett
Mogster Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 It would have been good to have something at the obvious stages between $100k and the $375k. Something to aim for. Maybe that's just not possible, I have no idea of the funding required for these projects.
Royraiden Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 Confusion everywhere :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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