NatoBoomerang Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) Afternoon Folks - need some advise please, I currently have DCS World with FC3 & A10C installed on my C Drive, primary, that's a 128GB SSD. I've gotten a hold of a spanking new ADATA SX900 256GB SSD FREE! & would like to transfer my entire DCS folder to this new SSD, exclusively for DCS...it's the only sim/game on my rig. I'm doing the install tonight...I'll use the Adata software to do the migration. My question is, has any one done this migration before? would there any issues with getting future updates from ED properly migrating to the new folder on the SSD? I guess i'm a little concerned as DCS will not be on the primary C Drive anymore. The reason for all this is...i've only got about 25GBs left on my primary C Drive SSD, I've also got a 2TB WD regular hard drive...with nothing on it. Thoughts please? thanks in advance! My Specs Below: Corsair 750W Modular ThermaltakeVersaII CoolerMaster T4Heatpipe MSI970A-G46 AMD Motherboard AMD FX8320 Eight-Core OC 4.2Ghz 16GB Gskillz 2400mhz nVIDIA GTX 780 120GB Samsung 840Series SSD 1TB WD 2nd HDD LG 14x Blu-Ray Writer LG 24x DVD Writer ASUS MX279H 27" Monitor TH Warthog HOTAS Satiek Combat Pedals TrackIR5w Clip Creative Wrath 7.1 Sound Wireless Win 7HE 64bit Edited November 26, 2013 by NatoBoomerang "it don't matter, no more..." ==========================================
xxJohnxx Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 You can try it, but it maybe will mess things up. If you try to move the whole C:/ over to the new drive, that can cause big problems. If you just try to move DCS over to the new drive, you can try to use the migration tool. However, chances are high that some path / registry is messed up. I would recommend to reinstall DCS in this case to the new drive. It doesn't take to long and is the better method in my opinion. Best regards, Jonathan Check out my YouTube: xxJohnxx Intel i7 6800k watercooled | ASUS Rampage V Edition 10 | 32 GB RAM | Asus GTX1080 watercooled
NatoBoomerang Posted November 26, 2013 Author Posted November 26, 2013 I was thinking about doing a clean install on the new SSD, but I'm really hesitant to download all the files from ED gain...I have major issues with I did the initial earlier this spring, massive corruption with the files, via the mirrors and also the torrents. it took me 4 tries to call all the files installed correctly and error free....nervous laugh :noexpression: "it don't matter, no more..." ==========================================
Nate--IRL-- Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 Just move the DCS folder to the new disk, then amend the Short-cuts. Job done. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
SkateZilla Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 Copy/Paste, Create New Shortcut worked fine for me. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
NatoBoomerang Posted November 27, 2013 Author Posted November 27, 2013 Morning Guys - Nate/SkateZ, worked like a charm! Did the install, the SSD came with it's own mounting bracket, did some cable management and spent some time to clean out my fans. Was up and running in 20mins after a quick format. Copy & paste did the trick - one whole SSD just for DCS! :thumbup: "it don't matter, no more..." ==========================================
SkateZilla Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Morning Guys - Nate/SkateZ, worked like a charm! Did the install, the SSD came with it's own mounting bracket, did some cable management and spent some time to clean out my fans. Was up and running in 20mins after a quick format. Copy & paste did the trick - one whole SSD just for DCS! :thumbup: Now, when you formatted, did you align the SSD sectors properly? something nearly everyone forgets to do. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
idenwen Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Work, have done it before. Copy the folder and search with regedit for the old path in the registry and change it to the new location.
cichlidfan Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Work, have done it before. Copy the folder and search with regedit for the old path in the registry and change it to the new location. There is no need to alter the registry, it will work with just shortcuts pointed to the new locations. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
NatoBoomerang Posted November 27, 2013 Author Posted November 27, 2013 Umm...Skate, I went into Computer Management and into Storage and did a NTSF Quick Format and it was good to go..then cut and pasted the ED Folder to the new drive & updated my shortcuts. Didn't do anything else...I should be good to go correct? "it don't matter, no more..." ==========================================
Bodo Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 http://www.windows-server-partition.com/how-to-align-partition-on-your-hddssd.html http://www.overclock.net/t/1226963/how-to-properly-re-align-your-ssd-hdd-partitions Corsair 550D / Be Quiet 650W Pro 10 / ASUS P8Z77-V Pro / Intel i5 3570K / 16GB Kingston HyperX 1600 MHz / EVGA GTX 970 SC ACX2 4GB / 128GB Samsung 830 / RME HDSPe Multiface 2 / 1TB Samsung F3 / Prolimatech Megalames Rev. B / Windows 10 / BenQ XL2420T / Saitek X52 Pro / Kone Pure+ / Filco Majestouch 2 Ninja
NatoBoomerang Posted November 27, 2013 Author Posted November 27, 2013 thank you, sounds good, will do. "it don't matter, no more..." ==========================================
awdrgyjo Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 Just move the DCS folder to the new disk, then amend the Short-cuts. Job done. Nate I am in exactly the same boat, but, I am completely computer illiterate, so I have booked an appointment for someone to install the new SSD, and get it up and running. I discussed the copy and paste idea, and he said, although this would work in the short term, it wont make the sim run any faster, because the operating system needs to be moved onto the SSD drive as well, and, because its just been copied and pasted, updates, and mods etc will cause real problems in the long run, the only way round this is to delete and reinstall the sim, onto the new SSD, please don't shoot the messenger, I am just repeating what I have heard, but, I know this guy has been in the business for twelve years and comes recommended. He also mentioned about partitioning, and formatting, but i'm afraid I was lost by then, now, I admit that some of this may have been lost in translation, but it does seem according to other forums I have now visited, its not as simple as it seems, cheers everyone.
sobek Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 I discussed the copy and paste idea, and he said, although this would work in the short term, it wont make the sim run any faster, because the operating system needs to be moved onto the SSD drive as well This is not true. The loading times will decrease if it is stored on an SSD. Regarding the autoupdater, i think it can handle it, but i'm not entirely sure. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
NatoBoomerang Posted November 29, 2013 Author Posted November 29, 2013 Hey Guys - the auto updater works fine, I did the latest update after I did the install and transfer as per above and it works fine. No need to worry. "it don't matter, no more..." ==========================================
javelina1 Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 great thread and info. bookmarking for future reference! :thumbup: I plan to pickup an SSD for my gamer system, via the black friday deals. I added an SSD onto my laptop, what a whole new machine there. MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
awdrgyjo Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 Hey Guys - the auto updater works fine, I did the latest update after I did the install and transfer as per above and it works fine. No need to worry. What's the main difference to the in game performance, with the new SSD?
awdrgyjo Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 This is not true. The loading times will decrease if it is stored on an SSD. Regarding the autoupdater, i think it can handle it, but i'm not entirely sure. Hi SOBEK, that's the point I was making, if you look at my post again I agree with you that the operating system SHOULD be moved to the SSD, otherwise the full advantage of the new drive wont be realised, as I understand, copy and paste, just moves the sim to the new drive, not the operating system.
sobek Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 My point was that for the sim to load faster, the operating system DOES NOT need to be on the SSD. Putting the OS on the SSD will improve your boot time and smart caching stuff of the OS, but it won't do a lot to the sim if it has been on the SSD already. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Cibit Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 (edited) I put all my ED stuff on SSD back when A10C was in beta but then the drive kept disappearing from my Computer. Ironically it is visible today as I write this. Any reason you can think of it would do this? Edit: I managed to copy and paste my DCSW installation onto my SSD and tested load times before it disappeared again. SSD load times 1.41 for a user made mission HDD load times 2.08 for same user made mission Edited November 30, 2013 by Cibit i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB
xxJohnxx Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Hi, Any reason you can think of it would do this? Just some quick guesses: - Datacable not plugged in properly into SSD. - Datacable not plugged in properly into mainboard. - Powercable not plugged in properly into SSD. - Powercable not plugged in properly into SSD. -> Check if connectors are plugged in properly. - Damaged datacable. - Damaged powercable. -> Check cable and try to replace it with another cable if possible. - Damaged port on SSD. - Damaged port on mainboard. -> Try to use another port if available. That could be some of the mechanical reasons why it doesn't show up. I asume there are plenty more software side reasons why it doesn't show up all the time. I don't know any unfortunatly. Hope it helps anyways, John 1 Check out my YouTube: xxJohnxx Intel i7 6800k watercooled | ASUS Rampage V Edition 10 | 32 GB RAM | Asus GTX1080 watercooled
gerd Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 What's the main difference to the in game performance, with the new SSD? Faster load times and should remove sturrering when some new textures / sounds / parts of the map should be loaded during the game. At least that is what I am hoping for - I already have Windows on a 64 GB SSD and I am planning to buy another one (probably Intel 530 / 240 GB) to move the games from the slow HDD.
awdrgyjo Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Faster load times and should remove sturrering when some new textures / sounds / parts of the map should be loaded during the game. At least that is what I am hoping for - I already have Windows on a 64 GB SSD and I am planning to buy another one (probably Intel 530 / 240 GB) to move the games from the slow HDD. Hi Gerd, yes I know the advantages of an SSD. In earlier posts, NatoBoomarang copied and pasted his DCS world straight from his hard drive onto his new SSD, although this worked initially, I was curious to know if the game performance had improved, if it has, all well and good, if not, then it may be a bit more complicated, and he has just moved the sim from one drive to another without utilizing the advantages of the SSD, several people have already advised me this can happen, and other problems can arise, but then again, they have not dealt with this particular program. It would be interesting to know if anyone has done this transfer, say over a year ago, and has not encountered any problems, and, has noticed an improvement.
gerd Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Well, it might be connected to the other speed improvement I read about - that is it beneficial to reinstall DCS from time to time using the latest version as the patching from version to version could leave some unwanted slow-down efects... Actually I could report in about two weeks, provided everything goes well with my SSD purchase. 1) I will measure performance of my current install on HDD (version 1.2.3 patched to the latest 1.2.6) 2) I will move this installation to the new SSD and measure the performance again (Copy&Paste as mentioned in this thread before) 3) I will uninstall my patched DCS from SSD and install directly 1.2.6 to SSD That should give us the answers. However, I am a bit concerned about the last step - uninstalling and installing again - will I lose one de/activation of A10, P51 and UH-1 ? Should I deactivate the modules beforehand, or should simply uninstall / install and pray it does not ask about activation?
NatoBoomerang Posted November 30, 2013 Author Posted November 30, 2013 Awdrgyjo - I did a transfer from one SSD that had my OS & DCS on it (never did I have it loaded on a reg HDD), to a dedicated SSD for DCS. I've had this particular rig since Mar 2013 and had not have any issues with my SSD stability my load speeds have been awesome with max settings and full terrain & textures loading bet 5-10 seconds and I'm very happy. "it don't matter, no more..." ==========================================
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