eyusuf Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Let's start a survey to see how many of us are prepared to pay for a beta version? +1
159th_Viper Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Let's start a survey to see how many of us are prepared to pay for a beta version? +1 Confirmed previously that there would not be any Open-Beta but yeah, would be nice :) Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Suchacz Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Confirmed previously that there would not be any Open-Beta but yeah, would be nice :) That was a Beczl Studios statement. Now, when Wags starts talking about the future of this project is apparent, that the one who will be finishing and releasing this project is ED. With or without original Beczl's team. So IMHO MiG-21 Beta is not unreal. Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
danilop Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Don't jump into conclusions prematurely. Dev team is alive, and although we will probably see some changes, that doesn't necessarily mean that ED took over the MiG21 project completely. Or not. We'll see. The most important thing is that MiG 21 get released eventually, no matter who will stand behind it in the end. Everything else is for the yellow press ... :D Edited January 29, 2014 by danilop
Suchacz Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Why should Matt make a statement about MiG-21's status if it is still developed by a third party group...? :huh: Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
Cedaway Posted January 29, 2014 Author Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) That was a Beczl Studios statement. Now, when Wags starts talking about the future of this project is apparent, that the one who will be finishing and releasing this project is ED. With or without original Beczl's team. So IMHO MiG-21 Beta is not unreal. Wags talks about the project maybe because he's the Producer and P.R. to say of ED and maybe the best qualified in ED to share his knowledge. I think you went too far too soon in conclusion... Edited January 29, 2014 by Cedaway DCS Wish: Turbulences affecting surrounding aircraft... [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P - Intel Core i5 6600K - 16Gb RAM DDR4-2133 - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming - 8 Go - 2 x SSD Crucial MX300 - 750 Go RAID0 - Screens: HP OMEN 32'' 2560x1440 + Oculus Rift CV1 - Win 10 - 64bits - TM WARTHOG #889 - Saitek Pro Rudder.
159th_Viper Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Why should Matt make a statement about MiG-21's status if it is still developed by a third party devs...? :huh: There exists a contractual relationship between ED and Beczl studios so he will be well-aware of the current status quo. As he is further the PR-guy of ED, keeping us happy by alleviating Community fears is why he made the statement he did - it definitely DOES NOT mean that ED have now taken over development. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Mike Busutil Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Everybody is worried about trying to figure out what happened, I'm just sitting here wanting to fly a Mig-21.... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Checkout my user files here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/filter/user-is-Mike Busutil/apply/
Suchacz Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 As he is further the PR-guy of ED, keeping us happy by alleviating Community fears is why he made the statement he didOh, come on... this is just absurd :music_whistling: Why should "PR-guy of ED" comment a inner problems of a different legal entity? Only for our amusement? Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
danilop Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) ED is mediator in ongoing negotiations? It seems logical that neutral (well, ED is not strictly neutral, but you get the picture) party gives a statement in this case Edited January 29, 2014 by danilop
Suchacz Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Everybody is worried about trying to figure out what happened, I'm just sitting here wanting to fly a Mig-21.... I'm just sitting here wanting to fly a Mig-21.... and enjoying my time with my conpiracy theories :lol: Edited January 29, 2014 by Suchacz Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
Vampyre Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Everybody is worried about trying to figure out what happened, I'm just sitting here wanting to fly a Mig-21.... True that. What's the point of worrying about something one has no control over. I have enough stress at work. While I'd love to try my hand at the MiG-21, if it is not released, oh well... there is always something else coming down the pipe. Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!"
Suchacz Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 ED is mediator in ongoing negotiations? It seems logical that neutral (well, ED is not strictly neutral, but you get the picture) party gives a statement in this caseLets make a bet :D I say, that MiG-21 will be released by ED, on ED's eshop Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2
159th_Viper Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Oh, come on... this is just absurd :music_whistling: Why should "PR-guy of ED" comment a inner problems of a different legal entity? Only for our amusement? Your apparent lack of understanding is what is absurd :thumbup: ED have a vested financial interest in having the 3rd-party development succeed as a result of the contractual relationship between ED and Beczl studios, never mind the Goodwill vested in the endevour, which in itself is probably the most important factor to consider. Edited January 29, 2014 by 159th_Viper Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Cobra847 Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Eagle Dynamics is not taking over development of the DCS: MiG-21BiS. As stated by Wags, once we are ready to make a statement, we will do so. Edited January 29, 2014 by Cobra847 Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
MTFDarkEagle Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Eagle Dynamics is not taking over development of the DCS: MiG-21BiS. Once things are in order and we are ready to make a statement, we will do so. :thumbup: Looking forward to it. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Alicatt Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 I still wish the Mig 21 team all the best and hope that it is all settled amicably. I have been a supporter of this mod since it was first announced by Beczl. Sons of Dogs, Come Eat Flesh Clan Cameron
danilop Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Eagle Dynamics is not taking over development of the DCS: MiG-21BiS. As stated by Wags, once we are ready to make a statement, we will do so. Glad to hear it. Take your time.
flanker1 Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 i will support everything. . . please give us this beauty. . . :-)
SkateZilla Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Lets make a bet :D I say, that MiG-21 will be released by ED, on ED's eshop I (nobody) said, that ED is taking over. I said, that ED will release it. Which is a good thing for us, because it means it will have official ED support (autoupdates), which is not accesible for other 3rd parties' modules. Please do not Speculate or Assume on what is being done Internally, it only causes mass confusion and angry forum members and a off topic train of Arguing. Any posts speculating on Internal Affairs will be deleted. When there is Official News, it will be posted by a member of the Team or ED Staff member. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Grim_Smiles Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Eagle Dynamics is not taking over development of the DCS: MiG-21BiS. As stated by Wags, once we are ready to make a statement, we will do so. Sorry you have to keep popping in here occasionally to slap us. Will be waiting here with fingers crossed for the statement. "Hurled headlong flaming from the ethereal sky; With hideous ruin and combustion down; To bottomless perdition, there to dwell; In adamantine chains and penal fire" (RIG info is outdated, will update at some point) i5 @3.7GHz (OC to 4.1), 16GB DDR3, Nvidia GTX 970 4GB, TrackIR 5 & TrackClip Pro, TM Warthog HOTAS, VKB T-Rudder Mk.IV, Razer Blackshark Headset, Obutto Ozone
Flying Penguin Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Welll, Cobra, Beczl, (if you are reading this thread) I sincerely hope you can get this sorted, I'll be here to thrust some of my hard earned into your hands when you do.... :thumbup: Per Ardua Ad Aquarium :drink: Specs: Intel i7-9700K, GTX 2080TI, 32GB DDR4, ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E, Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2
eFirehawk Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) i will support everything. . . please give us this beauty. . . :-) What I think is not the same as most of the people out there, but still... hopefully it might be interesting to someone... well, to me, I think that the MiG-21 is a very ugly airplane, no advanced avionics such as an A-10C or F-15E in the version represented in the module ( operating complicated systems is what makes it fun for me ), you know, it's too old and... Russian cockpits feel really weird to me. But... guess what? If this comes out I will purchase it and spend months learning it and flying it countless hours, simply because the quality of this module seems to be so good that anyone with a strong interest in aviation in general will be more than happy to take it out for a spin and learn all about it. There are many people out there who love the MiG-21 and also people like me who would give anything to have fun learning how to operate any military aircraft being represented with such accuracy and a beautifully modeled and immersive cockpit. I've never thought that, me, a guy who really couldn't care less about MiG-21s would feel worried with this situation, because I really want this module to come out and buy it :noexpression: I believe this module has a great sales expectation in this community, in the end it has to come out. Edited January 31, 2014 by eFirehawk Pentium II 233Mhz | 16MB RAM | 14.4kb Modem | 1.44MB Floppy Disk Drive | Windows 3.1 with TM Warthog & TrackIR 5
T0x1s Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 What I think is not the same as most of the people out there, but still... hopefully it might be interesting to someone... well, to me, I think that the MiG-21 is a very ugly airplane, no advanced avionics such as an A-10C or F-15E in the version represented in the module ( operating complicated systems is what makes it fun for me ), you know, it's too old and... Russian cockpits feel really weird to me. But... guess what? If this comes out I will purchase it and spend months learning it and flying it countless hours, simply because the quality of this module seems to be so good that anyone with a strong interest in aviation in general will be more than happy to take it out for a spin and learn all about it. There are many people out there who love the MiG-21 and also people like me who would give anything to have fun learning how to operate any military aircraft being represented with such accuracy and a beautifully modeled and immersive cockpit. I've never thought that, me, a guy who really couldn't care less about MiG-21s would feel worried with this situation, because I really want this module to come out and buy it :noexpression: I believe this module has a great sales expectation in this community, in the end it has to come out. I had the same feeling first, ugly and old but then i started looking at the cold war era aircraft from Soviet and the interest went really big:D For me the old aircrafts is really cool compared to the new ones, the old system, weapons and such. 1 more thing i love about this aircraft is the speed :pilotfly: I get really horny when i see the Su 24 :censored: I wish somebody made that to DCS I hope you guys will fix the problem and release this beauty model :)
Aginor Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Same here. I'm not exactly a fan of the Mig-21, because of the reasons you guys stated, but seeing how accurate the model and behaviour is modeled I decided I have to buy that thing on release day. Simply outstanding, especially if it smoothes the way for further planes. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
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