Azrayen

Do as you want, but IRL no NVGs on M-2000C.

Oh, this is more than a belief, you can make that sure, Zeus :)

What Zeus meant is that the "radar module" of DCS (code by ED) don't tell about being in "memory mode". So you can't adapt to do things like: - if contact is live then display it this way - if contact is from memory then display it that other way

Interesting, thanks :) For locked targets, the RDI behaves differently. Zeus knows about it.

Uh?? Not an Eagle fan here, no idea what's DTWS, SAM or PDT is this context. :huh: Agreed with those observations. Let's see if we can find how it works (RL) for this particular aircraft; if not, then "WAGuess" as Zeus puts it :D

One always looks under the tubes to see his cockpit, that's not the point. If you wear NVGs in a not-NVG-compatible cockpit, then the (too bright/not frequency filtered) cockpit lights will just make bright spots/blurs inside the tubes + forcing the NVGs to scale back their light-augmentation level, rendering them basically useless (and dangerous, so much can be "hidden" in a bright spot)

You can't turn it off. The only way to do it would be to turn off battery + alternators & transformers + seizing the engine. You're probably doing something else.

You mispelled that, Aginor. It's one to go to PID aka TWS, one more to go to PIC aka STT. (until the PIC button on the console is implemented, then you'll get the option to go STT directly)

That has merit, sure. But then, as the azimuth is determined by the TDC in the M-2000C, what should occur? - discrepancy antenna azimuth<>TDC? Not good: as soon as you move again your TDC, the antenna will "snap back" loosing the advantage you seeked by letting it remain where it was pointing when it lost the contact. - moving the TDC automatically to where the target was lost? I'm not sure this exists on the real aircraft... but perhaps it's a good idea if you want to re-acquire ASAP (except that you could somhow clutter your vision with the TDC). Oh? OK thanks. Didn't remember this change.

Indeed. With the ground forces. That's why the M-2000C, whose main mission is air-to-air, has not been upgraded. Its secondary air-to-ground role is limited to missions that doesn't need NVGs. Otherwise, other assets (such as the M-2000D, M-2000N or Rafale) are used. Those are air-to-ground all-weather platforms. Not realistic even today regarding the 2000C. Of course you do, if you want NVGs to be useful and not a nuisance. Why would air forces (and other operators) spend so much on cockpit transformation to make them NVG-compatible if this was not needed? Why would air forces (and other operators) proscribe use of NVGs on older aircraft without a NVG-compatible cockpit it could be done anyway? ;) ++ Az'

Sounds logical. :) That's already how it works for FC3 fighters, by the way ;)

Thanks ! Now the mystery is solved. Now should this "memory feature" be retained is up to ED. I wonder if 8-9 seconds wasn't a value introduced in LO to account for the time of a complete antenna sweep (assuming 4-bar and wide azimuth search)? The principle of a memory has merits. The duration looks a bit high at first glance, but I haven't done my homework to assess it properly.

I think I have another test that may reproduce the issue: In current 1.5.3 (no test made in 2.0) Using a very simple mission i.e. a S-3B for tanker and a player M-2000C. In the Mirage, I use my radar to find the tanker. Locking it in TWS only (I'm playing good guy, no need to scare the basket that will feed me). When coming visual to the tanker, I stop the radar by simply going from EM to SIL. The S-3 target remains displayed for a few second both on the VTH and on the VTB. I can provide the mission if you like. ++ Az'

Most of the topic dates back from before your missiles were available ;)

This is not about common sense, it's about sticking to RL capabilities. MICA is not a RL capability on the 2000C: - The RDI radar is not compatible with the MICA EM. - The MICA IR could be a technical possibility (envisaged for upgrade of Mirage 2000Ds) but no work envisaged for the Cs AFAIK (too old aircraft); and it's not just "plug & play" like the MLWS.

Not on the C if you want to be realistic. Not useful given its air-to-air main mission.

Nope. D and N. Agreed with the rest i.e. aircraft capable even if not used (cockpit compatible, probably wiring done too...) I support Razbam's decision to make the D2M (MLWS) available on their 2000C. To answer Sacha: it's not implemented now.

There is a memory for locked tracks (TWS or STT).

Yes. So... no. ;)

No I was describing the search mode, so no lock. With a target locked; - in PIC (STT) there is no question that the radar follows the target to the best of its abilities (gimbal limits) regardless of the TDC position => notch all you want. - in PID (TWS) mode, it's an interesting question; I can't tell for sure. I see 3 possible implementations in PID (TWS): 1/ the locked target takes precedence over the TDC position i.e. the target becomes the center of the focus (in azimuth); we have then to ask if it also takes precedence in elevation over the setting by the pilot (roller control on the throttle)? 2/ the locked target is still tracked by the radar + the radar still scans for other targets in azimuths according to the TDC; this looks overly complicated + if the target is full left and the TDC full right, that would make the radar to "loose time" for nothing, don't you think? 3/ the lock is lost if the target comes out of the "restricted" scan zone set by the elevation and azimuth. If I had to bet, my money would be on 1. Because it seems more logical/practical/useful IMO. ++ Az'

Correct. This is indeed about how it is now in DCS, but in RL you'd have some overlapse between bars. You set "one value" for antenna orientation in elevation (vertical axis), but then you have (or should/will have, it's not implemented now), next to the TDC, the distance (between you and the TDC) in NM, plus the min/max thousands of feet the antenna scans at this distance (in "S" mode) or the thousand of feet at the center of the radar beam at this distance (in "Z" mode). S or Z => switch on the radar console. S is default mode, useful when you search on your own. Z is a nice mode for when a GCI/AWACS controllers guides you to a target and gives you its distance from you and its altitude. ++ Az'

Well said, nomdeplume :) Clear, concise, efficient. Kudos!

Correct. The tool-tip is wrong (actually I though it was updated by now... but I'm at work, can't confirm). This control sets which of the pre-planned decoy programs is to be used when LL is in the "S.A." position. LL: A = Arrêt / Off S.A. = Semi-Automatic A. = Automatic In both S.A. and A., the pilot also may launch decoys manually (through dedicated controls on the HOTAS). This is for the RL aircraft; I didn't test what Razbam has implemented yet on that topic.

Nice :) What about switching the radar to standby (SIL) while you're there? That's nicer to the tanker crew ;) +1

No Betty in the Mirage. Various sounds, but not "speech". Regarding the ATC & Wingman, as per the link above.