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Hunting for the stutter-free VR experience.
Blackhawk163 replied to Panzerlang's topic in Virtual Reality
Thanks! DCS and Pimax play are the only things that are open aside from whatever is running natively in the background. I’m in VR and don’t record my sessions nor am able to watch YouTube on the pc. If I’m stuck in a mission that I can’t hack, I’ll just pick up me phone and launch YouTube and watch it on there either while in AP or just pause outright -
Hunting for the stutter-free VR experience.
Blackhawk163 replied to Panzerlang's topic in Virtual Reality
The whole HAGS thing leaves me head spinning. Some say on, others say off. Is this a processor dependent thing, GPU driven? I've left mine on with no ill effects. -
I'm stable at 2200 for memory you should be able to hit that.
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Yeah, soon as I saw that video I did the same even though I solved my issues I figured that this couldn't hurt anything.
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Device-> General-> OPENXR Runtime SET PIMAX OPENXR RUNTIME AS OPENXR RUNTIME make sure that's enabled.
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Okay I’m glad I stumbled on this thread. I was curious if there’s a way to set shift states for any and all buttons. any help with this would be greatly appreciated. So in the VPC software there are currently only 5 shift states with buttons already populated in these states (67-71) in order to set the encoders to a shift state I have to sacrifice a push button that’s been shifted? Can I just turn the encoders to normal buttons and have them be shifted? lol I’m so confused. Oh wow, it really was simple to do this. I’m pleasantly surprised at how versatile this throttle is.
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Hunting for the stutter-free VR experience.
Blackhawk163 replied to Panzerlang's topic in Virtual Reality
I’m about to load up the new update, hopefully this doesn’t bring back any issues. What a weird issue this is. Seems that there’s no one fix for it all. I guess that’s the nature of pc gaming as a whole, so many different variables. -
Hand Tracking Module Demand and Use Case Survey
Blackhawk163 replied to Calvin.Pimax's topic in Pimax
The Crystal light appears to have a port near where the display port connects to the hmd. Is that an actual connection waiting for a use case or just a dummy slot? -
I didn’t get that from his video at all (about not getting a review sample), unless I just watched a different video, but more so from the way Mark from GYGO was treated by the customer service at Pimax for his troubles and ongoing quality control issues. Which, to be fair, is sound advice. I have an ongoing issue with their customer service with some after sales stuff where one of their CSR agents straight out lied to me about a promotion. Lie about the small you lie about it all. In any case I usually wait for a consensus of multiple YouTube reviews and the DCS and other flight-sim community reviews as well.
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Hunting for the stutter-free VR experience.
Blackhawk163 replied to Panzerlang's topic in Virtual Reality
Both work for me. I could give you my complete settings for both DCS opxrtk etc. just shoot me a pm and you can do your own tests from there -
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Blackhawk163 replied to Panzerlang's topic in Virtual Reality
Oh don’t I know it! My response was more to the person who used the Iraq map to highlight the stuttering. What I should’ve written is exactly with what you responded with. I’m stutter free for the most part. The only time I get any stuttering is when I become GPU bound and the fps drop causing my frame times to react simultaneously. So I’m good now. It was crazy to just cruise and peer over the sides and watch and see the landscape below me stutter the way it did. Hopefully everyone still getting theirs in relatively tame parts of their respective maps find a solution to their woes. Mine, however unconventional as it might be, required the simultaneous running of QV and FFR.* I can repeat this 100% of the time now. *also whatever graphical setting that I have selected in dcs/pimax/opxrtb -
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Blackhawk163 replied to Panzerlang's topic in Virtual Reality
So on waypoint three (?) of the f16 free flight mission over Baghdad, it’s a stutter mess. My fps drop from 72 (Pimax locked) to 53-55 and choppy. There simply too much being rendered for my 4080. If I look straight it’s smooth at 65-72. Once out of there and flying towards and past the airport everything goes back to normal and I’m back to 72 locked with no side window stutters. -
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Blackhawk163 replied to Panzerlang's topic in Virtual Reality
Okay I had an opportunity and a bit of bravery to tinker with my settings. I disabled Quadviews in Pimax xr and loaded up. Not only did the stutter return, but I lost 10fps as I had 72 before disabling and 62 when disabled. In my use case it’s quantifiable.The settings I had in FFR looked horrible btw without having QV activated. I restarted DCS with it (QV) back on, and then disabled FFR in opxrtk, it looked great but stutter city when looking out the sides. Turned FFR (it’s great that you can do this is real time btw) and after a few seconds, stutter gone. Is this the fix? No, idea, but this is what’s working for me. Despite the author of the app saying don’t run them in tandem, I am, and will continue to do so. Good luck to all in search of their fix. -
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Blackhawk163 replied to Panzerlang's topic in Virtual Reality
There might be. I dunno, but since implementing that one line I quoted from you, it seems my system has settled into a really good rhythm of sorts. The only time I get stutters is when over densely populated areas (think Baghdad) which was my normal anyway even outside cities. Now when that happens It takes a second or to but goes back to smooth side views. Gone, presto whammo lol Maybe something else is happening, dunno, but for now you get the credit at least for my case. -
Hunting for the stutter-free VR experience.
Blackhawk163 replied to Panzerlang's topic in Virtual Reality
Yup I have openxr tool kit, pimax xr with quadviews checked and QV companion with my settings. Zero issues. -
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Blackhawk163 replied to Panzerlang's topic in Virtual Reality
I thought the same and yet I have none (problems) -
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Blackhawk163 replied to Panzerlang's topic in Virtual Reality
Disable Power Throttling. Local Group Policy Editor > Administrative Templates > System > Power Management > Power Throttling Settings > Turn off Power Throttling > Enabled Reducing Latency and Interupts:PowerSettingsExplorer: Processor performance Time Check Interval -> 5.000 for active Power scheme I guess technically two things. But that’s what I did. -
Hunting for the stutter-free VR experience.
Blackhawk163 replied to Panzerlang's topic in Virtual Reality
Whelp, my stutter is mostly gone, I made one change to my setup up, and I'm not touching anything else. I set the PCL to 72 because that's where I get the most consistent FPS. For me I'm chasing a balance of visuals and smooth consistent performance render to .78 (in dcs it's still 1.0). I'm running Quadviews XR in conjunction with FFR in openxr toolkit. NIS on and with a 1 inner 1/6 medium 1/6 outer ring in FFR settings. I've been running this setup for weeks and I mostly hover between 70-72fps (I always test after the BFM in Tarinkot quick mission either in the 14 or the F4, orbit over the airfield at about 15 units @400kts and 200ft) In the past I'd get the same issue, smooth out the front with that slight annoying stutter off the sides. I made one change today as I was curious to see if @Ready is a pulling a King Tantalous or if he's on to something: Disable Power Throttling. Local Group Policy Editor > Administrative Templates > System > Power Management > Power Throttling Settings > Turn off Power Throttling > Enabled Reducing Latency and Interupts: PowerSettingsExplorer: Processor performance Time Check Interval -> 5.000 for active Power scheme I did that, and just that. I don't run process lasso, I'm just OC'd to 5.4ghz -30 curve,1.225v max, expo on, SMT on, MB limits on the PBO side. My meager 4080s has its factory OC plus my Msi afterburner oc on top of that at 150 for the clock and 1000+ for memory. All this and still had the stutter before today. Now it's mostly gone only appearing for a second or two should I get a quick dip from say 72-67fps, and then it's gone. -
But why would you even need to? IRL you are PTT anyway, this is barely any different. This is also a godsend in VR, especially when the pass through is horrendous like the Pimax CL.
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Disabling SMT Actually made DCS run worse for me, Stuttering badly.
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OP I was just like you for a while. Being a real-life rotor head, I couldn't care less about refueling actions, I used to be able to do it in Fbird 4.0 when it first came out, but then took a hiatus shortly after release (I miss that manual )and when I came to DCS in the middle of this year, I was like "I got this." except nope, I didn't. I tried and I tried, bouncing around like a pinball. Death grip on controls and holding my breath (making much worse) So like you, I would skip this in missions that allowed you to. Then I played Baltic Dragon's A10 training campaign. I was getting really good at just everything and then came that dreaded mission where luckily you could skip the AAR and so I did. I completed the campaign but felt a bit hollow, I never completed the AAR portion but still got a pass. On to the basic qualifications campaign, first mission? Practice AAR in daylight. "Fudge" I thought, there's no skipping this. So, I tried, paused, adjusted controls, rinse repeat, learned my throttle response time. Split the throttle at the IAS point where you are at the same speed as the tanker, and then massaging the throttle, kept coming close, and then contact! for like a second I just kept repeating it (in this mission you have a mandatory 10 second contact time) until I completed it. Every day on every session, I would repeat this mission, until I could connect consistently, some sessions I would complete with no problems, others, multiple attempts. But once you get it you more or less start to develop that muscle memory. One day I said the heck with it and retried the f16. "Contact, you're taking fuel," staying with it until complete. I literally yelled out in joy, pointed to the ceiling with a big grin, and crashed into the tanker right after I reloaded, suspecting a fluke, but nope, although it required two tries at it. Didn't matter. Messed around a bit and then tried the f14, best I could do was stab at it. Then I tried the f15e and the F4, success! Went and tried the f18, and like the f14, I couldn't get it. Stupid baskets purposefully flying away from me! So, I stayed with the Airforce for a while constantly playing AAR at least 4 times a session, twice before playing anything else, and then at the end of it. Two days ago, I retried the f18. Bruh, it went so smooth. I think at that point I was on auto pilot (figuratively of course!), I learned the "carat trick." Now, every day I successfully refuel with all my modules save for the f-14, I'm just not good with its laggy engine response, but every day I try. I AAR at least 4 times with all my jets. TLDR: Here's what I did: First calibrate and fine tune your curves, make the controls yours. Learn all the quirks Learn the throttle response times declutter your hud when possible Relax and breathe Practice and get good. There's no way around this. Again, I was just like you and never thought I'd truly get the hang of it. Edit after I had written the above, as soon as I came back from work, I loaded the training mission for the f14 and while it took 15 stabs at it, I refueled to 19000 lbs. So, you can definitely do this OP!
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Too bad that there isn’t a way to unlock our fully purchased headsets like a cell phone, permanently, thus disabling any need for authentication.
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In control options (where you choose the aircraft) find the command menu. Bind "Command Menu Next Item", "Command Menu Previous Item" and "Command Menu Select Item".
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Folks, disable any Nvidia overlay that you may have running. I did and saw a jump of an extra 5-8 fps (don’t know what the 1% lows were) in VR, and those that know, when in VR every performance gain is a plus.
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That bloom murdered some kittens Bucic and must be reported.