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have to say congrats to Mnemonic and the vrm on one of the best addons ever for anything :thumbup: ever here are just a few examples first one is of a win7 laptop running the game on second screen (big TV) with the laptops screen running the abris and shkval (not lined up very well) and finally a networked winXP client running BSVP on a 19" ws on the left (forgive the lack of perfect alignment, it was a quick setup to demonstrate what is now possible) this is like heaven on earth for pit builders, glass instruments for DCS, hell yeah :D edit: just look @ those gauges all doing exactly the same as the in game pit, sweet stuff and as i am sure you will discover, you can reposition and size the gauges to meet your needs and they do not loose quality, they look great big or small. this one is with the alt+f1 pit-less view. with nearly all the everyday buttons mapped on hotas and on touchpal, this view is becoming an option and one i will examine further. running below in local mode for want of a better term (game and bsvp on 1 pc, 2 screens) which works but it is currently a bit for show as the bsvp export messes with touchpal also i have been experimenting with the laptop running 2nd screen in portrait mode, either way it seems we need a combined export.lua to run both bsvp and touchpal simultaneously. and i am sure the smarter ones amoungst us will sort that out :) won't be me that's for sure. not quite working yet, but i am sure it will be soon enough. note that when blackshark starts up the bsvp goes behind the game, (bsvp is inside the game resolution area i guess that is why.) Mnemonic: i wonder if it's possible to make bsvp always on top (if running on a sperate networked pc, or running only bsvp on the second screen this should be of no concern so please do not panic) finally here is one with bs on the laptop screen and second screen with large shval above touchpal with abris. note the vvi to the right of the shkval, most important for avoiding that vortex ring sinking feeling :) also see the yellow warning light telling you to back off some collective, and the gear is down.

looking thru the 2 colour glasses, my kids had some :) picture 3 of the cyclic in the first post is bloody amazing, moving myself around the screen makes the cyclic appear to move it really jumps out at you, it may need some refining but this technology has some serious potential. my youngest exclaiming " i can touch it, i can touch it" as she reached out towards the screen with the 3d glasses perched on her little snoz :D and the pic of the undercarriage front gear, that wheel is in your face :thumbup:

i noticed in the blackshark touchpal profile there is a "background.png" file that contains these pink/purple squares you are seeing. not sure why you see these pink squares but if the file is not there it cannot show up, that's the theory:thumbup: locate that background file and try renaming it and see what happens. it is worth it.

after being concerned over the limited number of activations and the likely hood of eventually using them up i tried the following before formatting the hdd and it worked like a charm. i had seen someone else mention saving the registry key so credit to whoever that was. from what i had read, you could delete and install dcs bs again on the same OS with no problems or need to activate, but formatting the hdd was another story altogether, please correct any mis information i may be spreading. overview: this is for people wanting to format their computer and reinstall dcs bs without the worry of burning activations it works if you are: a. reinstalling the same OS, (operating system) b. putting the game back in the same location and c. not making any hardware changes. this was tested on a laptop running win7 x64 first thing is to backup: once you have a working patched and activated copy of bs v1.0.x on your computer 1. make a backup of the reg key using the export option and save it somewhere safe, just not in the partition your are about to format :) (to find the key i just did a regedit search for shark) it's something like hkey current user\software\eagle dynamics 2. also make a backup of your current Ka-50 folder (your bs install) for ease of copying over your custom settings and edits later on. now it's format time: 3. now format the c:\ and reinstall your operating system and all the rest. 4. reinstall dcs bs and patch it (if nothing else this gets the dx9 files installed) making sure it's in the same location as last time. 5. then just click on your reg key backup from step 1 and add it to the registry this should give you a working dcs BS v1.0.x on your fresh windows 7 install. 6. you can now grab the necessary files from your backup ka-50 folder, to restore configs, controllers, multi monitor or missions etc. why reinstall bs and not just copy the ka-50 folder back over: in the end i reinstalled bs, as when i tried just copying the ka-50 folder back over it complainded of missing dx9_38 files so i aborted that idea. i guess if you install the correct version of dx9 it might work. nothing is stopping your copying the entire backup ka-50 folder over the top of the fresh ka-50 install, that will work for sure. with the above method their should be no need to churn thru those activations very handy for those of us that do a lot of testing or like to format regularly, and or do not use hdd imaging software. this is by no means the best or only way, but it worked for me and felt it worthy of sharing with you all. loving the shark, the more i fly the less i die.

sorry if answered already but does your abris and shkval show up in the right place without touchpal running. ps: now i have patched my test setup to 1.0.1 no longer needs the phantom monitor i see. took a while to position the abris etc correctly but it was worth every second had to subtract the left monitor from the full res in options.lua and subtracted the left monitor (1280) in the x coordinates in monitor setup watching those buttons reflect the in game status is fantastic :) now it's just begging for client/server setup, all in good time.

got it setup on win7 in in windowed mode laptop 1280x800 2nd monitor 1280x1024 in the touchpal blackshark profile, which is found in my documents touchpal folder the image i renamed was abris_blank.png it is just a black square in the abris position. i figured if that file was not found the area would be clear and it worked. as for the shk, thats a touch button above the abris area, and simply clicking that swaps the top area from warning lights etc to Shkval image. the png file was renamed but left with the same extension if that's what you mean. i renamed the abris_blank.png to abris_blank_original.png deleteing it may well give the same results.

the pilot had to spin turn to see his model, even before getting airbourne, should have been an immediate throttle off. the crowd are so close so more fool them, funny stuff. Dive Dive :D

thanks for quick reply, i should have been more specific (testing on bs v1.0 so most buttons not working :) ) using the original export.lua the 5 abris buttons work but that's about it. to get the abris picture working: in the blackshark touchpal profile, i renamed the abris_blank.png to abris_blank_original.png and then the abris area was working as it could not find the image that should be there, crued but effective. also noticed you hit the shk button above the abris for shkval to show. bloody brilliant, thanks so much. helped me get my head around the abris/shkval positioning too :thumbup:

sorry, i am of no help but have a question myself. when i have touchpal open the abris and shkval do not show thru got it setup on win7 in in windowed mode laptop 1280x800 2nd monitor 1280x1024 the abris and shkval are positioned on the secondary monitor (not yet in perfect position or size but close) with touchpal on top, abris/shkval are underneath, (comparable to layers in photoshop) and the touchpal space for abris is not see thru Q: do you have to set the abris and shkval to be "always on top" ? would also like the shkval in touchpal too like in earlier screenshots (if the abris and shkval were on top of touchpal that would solve it) must be something i missed

the models are really good, nice work.

only if the motherboard can support it, maybe do a low cost upgrade until the new pc is realized. say an e8400/e8500 replacing the e2160 and 4gig ddr2 (2gig x2) the old girl would love it.

sounds very promising, will try it for sure. real time light/button states, awesome.:thumbup:

thanks for sharing, great work on the mill, love it.:thumbup:

this is some big news in gaming visuals be gone the th2go boxes and the like. i saw over @ the ati site 3 widescreens in portrait mode with possibly 3 others for instruments, shkval and abbris now that would make for a nice flight sim setup http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity.aspx?info=EXLINK hopefully nvidia will step up with something similar hey AussieFX: what kind of display are you running, looks like you have a nice spec system. it makes my last new one look and sound old :D

the triplehead and more so the softTH setup is very demanding and can bring the average system to its knees. as we know, the cpu is often the limiting factor in ED sims but at high res and qual settings trying to drive 3 screens from one (by todays standards) mediocre card is quite probably your bottle neck. that cpu can be stable 3.6 on air and something like a 2xx gtx cards would have more chance of supplying those multi monitors. remember with the o/c, take little steps and keep the smoke in the chip :) previous suggestions sound good so far, such as reducing res and graphics quality, both in nvidia options, and also in game options. especially JG14_Smil comments on lua edits. try starting off at the absolute lowest graphics quality in game, with low or no aa and af setting in nvidia options. performance for my setup drops dramatically with high graphics settings. as for the digital th2go, i am sure one day they will support 3x 1920, if not already i'm not sure, my old analogue version is max 3840 so i cannot advise. i heard you can also run lower res on the side screens using softTH that might help you a bit. please share some pics of your new flat panels, they sound great. Hannibal, you have gone vertical, i would also like to see this, i tried it and thought it would be ideal, please share screens.

sounds like me, i get there eventually, :) good to hear others feel the same. very valid point, unrestricted would be far worse than what is currently implemented i must resign to the fact that there probably is no ideal system, the one we have now does stop people spamming reps, but it also hinders genuine ones, i don't have the answer.

edit: mod, feel free to rename this thread or move this to a more appropriate area, the b grade comedy attempt for a thread title should not distract from the content. history: been around here for a while and i am impressed with some people who are always there to offer assistance, be it a technical question or from a fresh pilot just wanting to know something simple. i still remember being new to lockon and help was always on tap. the following is: just an observation i made when trying to praise a fellow forum member. my desire: to give a fellow member a rep point. my reasoning: a clear concise, to the point response to a question raised by a new comer. an answer that others will benefit from, rather than cringe at like some posts. the problem: a message to spread some rep before the deserving member gets another from me. so what if i gave them one before, they probably deserved it. an undesirable outcome: the need to now give rep to random members for no real reason, rather than just allow me to simply rep the deserving member again. so after spreading a few bananas, i return to the deserving member only then to be told to wait 24hours, you are spreading too much rep ? a monkeys thoughts: why do we have a rep or reward system that gives out bananas for picking your butt and eating it, when it should be for those who actually deserve the rep points and understand you don't eat poo. my thoughts: i feel the current rep system needs a re-think. interested to hear what others think. Is the current rep system valid, you tell me?

really like the pit, i am sure your pics are just example but i am wondering do you fly it with the in cockpit view on screen or use the cockpit-less view (sorry for poor terminology) i think either ctrl+F1 or is it Alt+F1, one of these will give you just the outside view with no cockpit showing, just HUD :thumbup: also really like your abris and Shkval screens, very cool indeed, will be one hell of a pit when done, keep up the good work.

not exactly on topic but i too am quite happy with the stability of the 185.85 release, this is my current favourite, yet to try anything newer.

correct about TB, so something like the abris overlay, but of a custom snapview of auto pilot buttons, or other items. now that would be truely awesome, think of the possibilities. currently as far as i know it's not possible, but fingers crossed. you never know your luck.

i would have thought so :thumbup: have done a little rc heli myself, great fun, full focus time that's for sure. also spent a far bit of time now just hacking around in the virtual shark, and find it can pull some pretty aggressive maneuvers when required. as for the flight dynamics, i can only judge by what i think it should feel like, have been in a few heli's but never on the sticks, so no real world experience, but for a bloke with a funny hat on and a whole lot of other computer crap all around me, the flight model feels pretty dam good to me. great thread, got me in :)

in the vid the data looks like it updates immediately, as in real time, nice. very clever you lua editors are, great work on the mill also.

really impressive pit there badcrc, this config looks similar to something i would like try. please keep posting results, dam that pit looks good :)

looking wicked, great work so far, will be immersion city when done :thumbup:

so you got there in the end, never to go back now :thumbup: i imagine. would be good to hear a bit more on the hassles you ran into, what driver worked etc.