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Demo video and Mission to practice the Roads take off and landing. Red flares are the approaching entries. I will tune the mission in case it is impossible for the rest of landing sites. I just tested the right landing site. You can rearming and repair in all landing sites. Enemy will be far enough, so you have the time for landing. So you will be ready to take off when they are in range. F-18 group against trainner landing on Road.miz

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Same mission from above, but now added a second Mig-29 on the road ready to scramble. improved blue side. (all blues are ACES level... added blue AWACS) F-18 group against trainner.miz

Also I guess they should be in green ROE to do that. Otherwise they will switch automatically to max alert (red) ones they get in visual contact (6km) with the helicopters. If they get get ROE automatically they will not do your orders and will be alert

To do that you should go to the editor and add a menu command to order them to disperse to a custom position (made previously as a custom template for your specific group) when you order them. I guess you should be on the lead unit. You would want make the same question in the ME forum.

We don't have the G's max mark in our Mig-29. Will be nice after a dogfight check for our max G's. It is possible make this mark for DCS too? it is not a big deal for programmers I guess.

The track above is corrupted. As I am doing risky low flight DCS doesn't seem to handle well the tracks. I raised the bar and faced three of the most modern fighter in DCS now days. I am using 80's technology they are using over powered and unrealistic toys like Aim-9X and so on. Very important in that case, as they are more than me in numbers, I stay in a pure defensive tactic using Slow/low/Notch and traying to get the best Notch as possible as well lower altitude and low speed. I am covering myself with the terrain mask and I am holding my position on the front line limits. Never go beyond there!! I don't need it. The invaders are them. I am doing a solid defense job and defeating them. that is the job and mentality with this Mig-29 9.13 version. beyond that it is a high cost... I attached the mission for you guys. see below. F-18 group against trainner.miz

For the time of Soviet empire collapse. The only nation without R-73 for Mig-29 was Iraq. I mean I don’t care if ED make it R-60 as part of DCS inventory, but set a Mig-29 with R-60 is only a real action combat for Iraq.

Are you talking about the Serbians Mig-29?. Pilots personally say they were armed with R-73. the only confirmed nation that was armed with R-60 on Mig-29 is Iraq.

Why should be implemented the R-60 instead R-60MK. The only case that fit for that case is Irak. They didn’t received weapons with Mig-29 package and they were forced to use the Mig-23 inventory R-60 for the new Mig-29. All the rest of nations from the first day got R-60MK and I believe for 1989 export batches R-73 was included as the official missile. as Irak map is not in DCS what is the sense for this rare payload with R-60?

I can beat the current F fighters with Mig-29A. That’s not a problem. The real problem are on SAMs and GCI. They are dumb and need better simulation. For example, KUB Sam are just stupid. If you hide them, then to order get out we must move the entire battery instead a couple of unit really needed for an ambush (radar unit and a launcher unit). Then when you activate the radar on the KUB activate everything, search and Track radar. That’s is not correct with a EWR on his side.

Guys You can test this mission. North west it is a defensive side SAMs with two Mig-29 on the Air with only IR missiles and you can select a Mig-29 or a Mig-21, with R-73 the 29. you will play as scramble take off unit, just to simulate a Serbian war situation. have fun. just take a look in two important things. 1- The retarded level of the AI Mig-29. They don't evade well the missiles, after launch a fire and forget IR missiles they stay there to be killed. Is just pure biased coding for the blue guys get to have fun. The redforce are just lost with this AI by ED. 2- Take a look the way I edit the South SAMs. They were activated for an ambush and work well. 60s SAM ambush.miz

Vietnam was with the same inferiority in technology and they managed to get victories using the brain. As you can see In the Yugoslavia wars and Irak the Air actions were not so smart. Not because it is only my opinion but the video above show the pilots telling that too. If you are in Disadvantage the response to your enemy should be what he is not expecting and make traps to direct him to the place you want. there are still some real way to direct an attack to a fake SAM site and ambush the enemy from roads take off. The deal is make your own server and put your ideas in a Server. Seem that is a economic issue that only Fan boys enjoy. they want to use you as a toy to have fun with you on his way.

Guys. Mig-29A still can do his job. The problem is in your tactics. We know is is a 84s technology against much modern technology then your move is go different way the enemy expect. that was the mistake of Serbians. I just don’t understand very well why they were sent that way with such avionics malfunction. What I guess they were not well informed about the weapons capability on the other side. see the Serbian pilot in that video telling that was a crazy move and other tactics could have better results (too late) Min 43:34 they are declaring the bad strategy they did. The bad orders, the bad organization… they, the pilots tell you that and Also tell the way to do it right. Also there are some interviews that pilot said AWACS were not detecting them in low flight.

Those Mig-29 were armed with R-60 missiles. That was literally an unbalanced fight. URSS didn’t delivery the Migs with A-A weapons because the war with Iran. With R-73 or R-27T that pilot will not tell the Story. All Mig-29 downed never did Radar use with radar guided missiles or BVR missiles. They always were in huge inferiority because operational conditions or lack of weapons. That was the result of URSS break down. All production was stopped.

I think it is working, just count in decimal.

Slow/low/Notch by Pepin1234 You want to kill the OP Aim-120? I bring you a tactic for that. The very first thinks you should keep in mind, Mig-29 first generation 9.12 and 9.13 are front line fighters, because lack of high capacity internal fuel, because the maneuverability is the best of his class and because this machine is ready to take off and landing on no prepared roads. They were designed for a crude use. So telling that, you figure it out you taking off in scramble on a road to splash this bandit that come close to your front line defense (not intended to go offensive for that early version). If you are a Mig-29 pilot and you didn't try yet a landing and take off on the road then this is not your aircraft for the moment in DCS, you are not yet clear what is the capability of this machine. So the follow tactic is for that frontline you are defending but you cant go forward, because there are SAMs. To do this tactic you must be on a lateral of a formation, another numeral may be in the other lateral. Why? because you don't want to be in the middle of a formation because both enemy lateral will track your speed increasing or decreasing easily. Remember you are doing Slow/low/Notch (the name of this tactic) to a 10-15 degrees rate so if you are in the middle of a formation you will be exposed to the both enemy laterals. So been so you start choosing the lateral of the enemy formation and you track him just to get the heading toward him. As in DCS they give a cheating bonus for blueforce giving 50km free of ECM we are forced to start our tactic from that range. Also unfortunately I don't want to use the R-27ET because AI (in that track) is OP and she know what kid of missile you are launching so she will use the flare super quick. So against Humans you probably will be better with the single stage version, the basic R-27T. Also keep your radar off after the dive, You don't need it (I forgot do it in the track) I don't want to explain you every step of this tactic. Please see the track and kill this bad boy in MP with the best machine for that, the Mig-29. if you want to keep this tactic just record the track with you Smartphone camera. Tracks get corrupted with time. Note: Unfortunately the Human player keep looking around to get a tone from Aim-9X, even when they didn't see you. The Aim-9X is the most OP and unrealistic in this simulator so avoid the offer of challenge against a human they are cheating with original product. it is what it is, by developers... enjoy Notching and Floating for point defense medium F-18.trk

First Mig-29 first versions 9.12 and 9.13 were made for a front line defensive job. Mig-29 was ready to take off and landing from roads. That will be his natural scenery for 9.12 and 9.13 versions. Of course the aircraft will become more multi tasking with the next generation but that never happen cuz the URSS Collapse. Now we can see more very capable Mig-29M and Mig-29K with better BVR. F-14 in a Face to Face against Big bombers probably have some chances to use Aim-54. Irak used very well the ECM against the Aim-54 and the result was ground the F-14 because the Aim-54 against fast moving target with countermeasures was just useless. and they didn’t have the option for more of those missiles. You gonna find some funny stories from Iran side. But… hey that was just that. Talking about real tactics in DCS. You set a bunch of Mig-29 spread around the battlefield in DCS for take off scramble and the F’s fan Boys will cry the night long because they will not understand such tactics in a fighter. But they are real because this aircraft was build with that in mind.

The new version have two approaching modes. Horizontal and vertical (from above). Very interesting

As we all know we are getting the dark side of coding in this simulator, so this is the moment to learn some pretty good tactics to defeat dreamer Brains Mikey Mouse cheaters. just kidding. Hey guys take a look very carefully in that tactic of the track. If you control your machine well and control altitude and speed you are unbeatable. They will say, We will finish you with Aim-9X, of course they will use it with the help of programming coding but keep doing those maneuvers. Very good for the guy want to keep up al the time. there is no way a active head seeker get you if you keep lees than 300m. But again they do whatever they want with coding. they... remember take a video with your cellular as tracks get corrupted. If that track got old, just save it and then open it. I watched the track and I crashed at the end but track get corrupted these days, so hope you get the entire track demo. more tracks in this thread: New in Mig-29? Here you can learn how do Air Combat! - MiG-29 for DCS World - ED Forums (eagle.ru) Notching and Floating for point defense high2.trk

You made me laugh. What simulator...? Do you really think the red AI in this game is close to the level of a real organized Air force. Well if you put 20 nations in coalition against a single country like in Serbia maybe you get a pretty unbalanced picture. We were talking about the lack of systems, lack of tactical game in red Sams in this so called simulator and you come out with the word Simulator over game name... just pointing an example: You are facing a fleet of Mig-21 without tactical information from GCI. that is not a simulator. There are many nations in NATO that operated the soviet GCI export version. Not Sensitive information on that. Where is the GCI in your beloved simulator? You are not simulating a real tactical life situation. it is just a game to put your brain in the winner position.

your words justified and repeated arguments used by blue players. Lack of information… sensitive nature… and you even announce the tiny update for R-27 such should be another crappy improvements to calm down the community of what is obvios. The Biased treatment in this simulator in control by western owner is very noticeable. Try again with different sweet words… we almost got what you mean. A GCI for Redforce is not a sensitive information… also ECM is not sensitive information for people that bring to the table such modern weapons. They must know how nasty is the ECM in a air combat and coincidentally or not. They are not simulated what they know very well it is a Achilles Heel, Not for passive seeking sensors…(IRST on RU Fighters) not for Passive IR head seekers (R-27T) not for Radiation A-A missiles (R-27P) ignored by this simulator, but they need information. Red Aircraft were pioneers on that… what a pure coincidence right…? for example: the very first fighter in the world to get a proper operational datalink is the Su-27 and surprisedly Su-27 in DCS don’t link Datalink between a group of them in Multiplayer. What a pure coincidence right…? R-27P is for export. Same family, tiny differences im range. Not big deal… it is a radiation passive seeker… but well… on that case also is a “lack of information” when the business is in risk and what gonna be shoot down is a F-18, then let’s say to the community we don’t get enough information, restrictions are present. When the target is air Defense then there is a passive seeker that work and been introduced, like Kh-31P and Kh-58, AGM-88… not a problem on this case… right. The Hawk defense system have been improved to defeats targets at 2000m from 40km…!!! Wow almost reaching a long range capability. Such improvements have not been seen in any of the redforce Sams… (current S-300 in game 50km using same example)

Anybody with only the grip on the Thrustmaster Warthog base? I would want know your feedback.