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It is definitely a step backwards in everything but raw FPS performance. I'm only playing in pancake 4K, but I tried DLSS with sharpness at full about two times and went back to MSAA at 4x... MT already has DCS working quite nicely (in 2D) without the Nvidia feature.

Hey, Bubsy, would you be willing to part with that TrackIR and hat clip for $70(ish)?

It didn't for me.

Try to fly one of Baltic's Raven One campaigns to the end and then come back and tell us that the Hornet is boring...

After 2.9, you now have to be in burner to launch.

This is precisely why I am not using DLSS. The negative effect on cockpit displays is too much for me...even with Sharpening up to max. I'm using 2D, but I can't imagine how it looks in VR. I use MSAA still, and my performance is very good. If they could find a way to keep cockpit displays crisp and clean with DLSS, I would consider going back... but it's a no-go for me.

As many have done and documented here in the forums, you can map MFD PBs to your HOTAS. I control every single radar function this way, without ever taking my hands off the HOTAS.

All 4th and 5th Gen fighters will stall out in a vertical climb when drag, air density, gravity, etc.. catch up to it....the Hornet sooner than several others due to its lower TWR.

Very true... and probably with a fair deal of MACTBDCADM at play as well. (Military Aircraft Coffee Table Book and Discovery Channel Aviation Documentary Misinformation)

My pleasure.

This is the proof that we're in the Golden Age now.

This is 100% true...

Some more Legacy praise from Gonky: Legacy Hornet (A-D) will go Mach 1+ in Military Power, even with a center line tank, two pylons, and missiles on the wing-tips:

Agreed.

Cool, no worries. That makes sense. Thanks, Gortex. This further emphasizes that these Viper pilot G-modeling comments belong in their own bug thread and not under the title, "F-16 Still Underperforming." I agree that the Hornet pilot shouldn't be able to hang out at 7.5 G without stronger physiological effects...and that the Viper G model could be improved as well.

Gortex, just out of curiousity, maybe you could run and graph some of your turn-rate data on Hornet STR and ITR like you did with sustained G several days ago, without the Hornet paddle employed, at airspeeds b/w 150 kts and 550 kts? No pressure, of course... just interested. Some real-world E-M data apparently suggests that the blk 50 and lot 20 jets are actually quite close in turn rate in real life (of course without the Hornet paddle employed). I've posted below a screen-grab from a post awhile back to that effect. The account (in the blue text) recorded below was not written by me but to me in a private message here on the forums.

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/296724-paddle-switch-disable-option-in-mp/

Just read the white paper (on the Hornet radar... Absolutely BRILLIANT work, fellas! The entire ED team should be beyond proud! Thanks for keeping the users in the loop regarding the complexity, care, and time being put in to these modules. White paper link: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/upload/medialibrary/751/420tvzzkl8vyxzukcdzamjf7gcrhwzmo/Eagle_Dynamics_Radar_White_Paper_v1.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1nYO05GSHwH0v8qkIaqklwi4ejWqt-bfAAgMNRkEyZXhuGswaDxt4yNN0

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/317116-praise-for-legacy-hornet/ https://forum.dcs.world/topic/296724-paddle-switch-disable-option-in-mp/

Gortex, Thanks for taking the time, bud! Good work. I hope people can see just how massive a difference the Paddle Switch is in the Hornet (if you have to win with the Paddle, you're not good at BFM in the Hornet). Additionally that 82% Viper fuel vs 51% Hornet fuel will make a fairly big performance difference too: That is, flying a lighter Viper with 60% fuel or less makes it even more of a beast. The Hornet (no paddle) owns the slower speed stuff largely because of the straighter, larger wing.

Awesome. Thanks, bud! If you have time, you might go for more realistic flight configurations for both a/c as well.... not just the configs for the E-sports crowd. But I know time is limited. That sounds about right on the "approaching .7M" bit. At 300kts and lower, the Paddle will do very little for the Hornet except bleed it dry. I think what people don't realize is that in the Transonic region (and higher), the DCS Hornet becomes seemingly ridiculous with the Paddle in use...especially with its less realistic pilot G-tolerance model at high g.

I guess we'll never know until Gortex runs the Viper vs Hornet tests without the Paddle with tracks included. What say you, Gortex?

Me: "I have a good number of critiques for the (losing) Hornet flying being done in the two videos posted above." Also me from my earlier post in this thread: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/323031-f16-still-underperforming/?do=findComment&comment=5223285 And finally, regarding the Viper vs Hornet piece of this, Gortex's graph was made with the Hornet's Paddle Switch engaged... in which case, realism bets are definitely off.

Good post and thoughts. Regarding the statement above, "the Hornet is the only jet against which I feel the Viper hasn't a single viable game-plan," are you confident that these experiences for you are against Hornet fliers that are not using the Paddle? Additionally, I have a good number of critiques for the (losing) Hornet flying being done in the two videos posted above. What would your critiques be of how those Hornet flyers lost against the Viper in these 5-6 PvP losses?

Now HERE's a guy in a Hornet getting dominated by a Viper in DCS. ...and another: One can always say, "Well, those Hornet pilots aren't as good as the ones in the server I fly," etc. etc... May be true: Or it might also be true that a DCS Hornet WITHOUT the paddle switch in use (as in these two vids) can get quite reasonably pummeled by the Viper in PvP BFM...if the pilot is solid. I think it is a well-worn, coffee-table-aviation-book myth that ALL versions of the Viper can dominate ALL versions of the Hornet in BFM, 90% of the time, pilot skill being equal. The reality seems to be closer to 50:50 in the WVR arena...at least with late block/lot Vipers and Charlies... and keep in mind: NO real world Hornet pilot is EVER pulling the paddle switch in a training fight against a Viper, or any other airframe.