wilbur81

You're getting turbulent air from its wing vortices...and perhaps you got gunned once by him and then, under G/wake turbulence, your damaged wings snapped off. Tracks? Additionally, don't use the Paddle switch/G-Limiter O-ride switch when flying if you were. It'll develop bad/unrealistic BFM habits and the Hornet airframe isn't meant to take that kind of over-G-beating.

Baltic Dragon's Raven One campaigns have some nice, long, realistic flights built in that might satisfy...then there are some extremely stressful moments mixed in, too.

One never knows what will actually happen with Gov't spending, but at least 10 of those USMC Hornet's may get the APG-79 AESA radar upgrades. It's been successfully tested at least. Man, if that actually happened and made it all the way into DCS! The maneuverability, speed, and looks of the Charlie with the Radar of the Rhino! https://www.naval-technology.com/news/raytheon-tests-apg-79v4-asea-radar-on-usmc-f-a-18-hornet/

For sure, my pleasure. Baltic's Raven campaigns really do put the Hornet through its paces! They're excellent campaigns. It seems that there are a good many F-15C and E guys in particular who sing the praises of the Hornet when it comes to the in-close knife fight. Look up a dozen real world Viper BFM HUD tapes and you'll see that they are fighting between 200 and 400kts most of the time, and under 7.5 g's. (In this example, the Viper doesn't exceed 300kts in a minute and a half of BFM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOa9eWgFllEI) Wombat said it well in one of the Vids I linked: "I'll let the Viper have it's 9g's all day long." The Hornet keeps a slightly slower but smaller circle while the 9G guy wears out as he rates around... which is probably why the Viper, Eagle, Hornet, etc. guys are not BFM'ing at 9G's and 450kts much of the time in the real world vids I've seen. (The dudes doing 60+ seconds of 9g in the centrifuge aren't doing anything else). I think the Hornet received A LOT of flak when the Navy brought it alongside the Tomcat, which they let age-out. Tomcat guys hated on it... then USAF hated on it because its distant Step-Father (the Northrop YF-17 Cobra) was seen as a 'loser' because of coming in second in the LWF competition. Add in a slower top speed (even though it out-accelerated F-15's up to certain numbers), and the popular (negative) perception is complete. The Hornet was kind of the F-35 of the 80s in many ways. And the "Fuel Problem" was mostly only when in comparison to the Tomcat, Intruder, and A-7... the Hornet actually manages fuel quite nicely as said in one of the Vids, but they are weaker compared to the Tomcat, Intruder or Mudhen in that regard (It's just a smaller, sleeker airframe). Anyway, not trying to make the Hornet out to be better than it is (it certainly has weaknesses [read: "Too Slow"], as do all jets barring the F-22 ), but trying to argue that it is falsely underrated and every bit an equal to all the other 4th gen fighters, with its own strengths and weaknesses.

Agreed.

The Legacy Hornet seems to be THE most underrated 4th Gen fighter out there. If you're interested, I started a thread with links to real Eagle, Strike Eagle, Tomcat, Hornet and Viper drivers praising the performance capabilities of the Legacy Hornet.

Because the real one can:

ALL of our 4th Gen Legacy fighters are amazing platforms, and we are being treated to the Golden Age of mil flight sim by ED right now. However... Almost weekly, I'll come across some YT video of a DCS PvP BFM fight, a real world Hornet driver praising the jet, real world non-Hornet driver praising the jet, etc...when, invariably, someone in the comment section (or in the ole' forums) will say something like the following under an interview with former F-14D Tomcat & F/A-18A Hornet Pilot Mike Vizcarra (below): and other general slams such as: "The Hornet is a lame duck" "The Tomcat is superior in BFM" "The Viper is superior in every way, especially in BFM" "The Eagle is superior in BFM" "The DCS Hornet is overpowered because I lost to it in BFM" etc. etc. It seems to me that the Legacy Hornet (especially the big-engine Charlie) is one of the most misunderstood, underrated dogfighters in the world. For those who are interested, I thought I'd drop you a bunch of (mostly) time-stamped links to various real world F-15C, F-15E, F-14A/D, F-16C T-bird, and Legacy Hornet crew praising the Legacy Charlie and its WVR performance, and busting some other coffee-table-book-myths about the Legacy Hornet. One thing to note: ALL of the men here have plenty of DACT experience against every 4th Gen USAF/Navy fighters (which of course many of them talk about if you want to watch the whole video). Finally, HUGE shout outs to Mike and Steve at AC Interview and 10 Percent True! If you don't subscribe to either of these guys' online content, you are missing out BIG TIME. Enjoy... Praise for WVR-BFM Performance https://youtu.be/a-gPWlODKCY?si=YHlnvhcH-ZK_g0Ik&t=4642 https://youtu.be/Vz7B_QfF_hw?t=224 https://youtu.be/w877J-B6IXU?t=975 https://youtu.be/APAEykrfUZs?t=1515 https://youtu.be/yDMVhAh7nOQ?t=162 https://youtu.be/yDMVhAh7nOQ?t=401 https://youtu.be/eD9s0Eb6c7U?t=3432 https://youtu.be/y-a-CL8ClX8?t=9 Praise for the Apg-73 from a Mudhen WSO https://youtu.be/eD9s0Eb6c7U?t=3481 https://youtu.be/Q_n78CvQrRY?t=1017

Any progress here on a faster TDC?

Hey, Bloodhound. Probably sold long ago, but I'm in the market for a Warthog stick to go for a base that I currently already own. Are these still available, and if so, would you be willing to sell one only? I live in Kansas.

I agree 100%!

Got it...though I was wrong about the JHMCS: It does show (at least a selection of A/C) an ID based on NCTR alone. But you have to, apparently, select it via the "STEP" function on the SA page first to get it to display on the HMD. Looking forward to that extra AZEL data window in the future. **EDIT** It does appear that the only way to get the NCTR print on the JHMCS is to select the "STEP" option on the SA page first. Is this the RL documented behavior? Seems a bit clunky as is.

Hey, Fellas. Quick question: Where exactly is the aircraft type (F-15, Mig29, etc.) data coming from that is displayed on my JHMCS HAFU or on the AZ/EL page? I ask because, in practice, it appears that it does NOT (frustratingly) seem to come from my own-ship NCTR capability... If I have JHMCS and the AZ/EL page up, and go 1v1 against another aircraft, the SA page is the only place that I can get the NCTR print. Should that data also show up on AZ/El and JHMCS at that point, without any donor help (AWACS, wingmen, etc)? And when I do get that ID data on the AZEL/JHMCS, it isn't clear to me where that's coming from if not from NCTR... Thanks.

^^^ This...100%. DCS has struck an INCREDIBLE balance between eye-candy and simulation power. It absolutely needs to be optimized and it is most certainly a hardware destroyer, but it is doing so much more than the 'other' flight sims out there. "You collided with an object and caused critical damage to the aircraft."

Indeed... we won't be seeing AESA in DCS in my lifetime. One can only dream... Very true.

While AESA is on the discussion-table, I'd take a simulation of these few USMC Legacy Hornet's that are being upgraded to the APG-79(V)4 AESA over the "Super" Hornet any day. As "Wombat" Marston and other Hornet drivers have said, "there's nothing 'super' about the super Hornet."

Raven One...

Man, Gonky... these cockpit vids...showcasing the maneuverability of the Legacy Hornet. So, good!

But you're not concerned about the other DCS jets with Link16 that can and do the exact same thing?

Wow... that video looks just like DCS! Our humble sim has buffeting, turbulence, wind resistance, and aircraft that roll as well. Thanks for supporting ED.

These two Eagle Drivers would beg to differ. The Eagle is certainly superior in the BVR arena... not in close.

Actually, in my tests... there were TONS of visible air to air and Sam missiles in flight with no drops (for me) below 50 FPS (i'm locked at 60 max). However, when vehicles start rolling, the FPS drop intermittently from 60 down into the 30s and everywhere in between. Again, if they are launching junk, but static (not producing dust-wake) there's no penalty. I think this is a separate issue from above as, in my example, the vehicles can be 100 miles from my jet and it impacts the FPS as I've described. The whole "looking through smoke" issue has been around for years and years.

Doing some testing today and will post tracks later, but it appears to me from my initial findings that vehicles in motion, creating the larger (and newer?) of the various types of dust trails, are having a major impact on framerates on my end. Feel free to do some testing on your own and beat me to track-posting. Simple test is this: Have, say 60 Blue MBT's vs. 60 Red MBT's facing each other, with no movement... then run the mission again with them assigned a WP and watch the FPS difference. Static attacks don't seem to create a huge problem, but when the vehicles start moving, different story. I'm on O.B. 2.8 latest...

Hear, Hear!! DCS has to be the most ambitious, realistic, and remarkable military (flight or otherwise) simulator ever released to the public! It is absolutely brilliant. It is a resource HOG to be sure, and it is the bane of the VR crowd at the moment it appears...but as an old-school-pancake guy, DCS is simply the greatest. When a Dynamic campaign finally arrives, married to some proper HT and Vulkan implementation...my goodness. And then there's Winwing: this is the golden age of military flight sim-ing - And Eagle Dynamics has led the charge. Keep at it, Team!

It would be cool (and perhaps helpful?) someday to have items like Sustained & Instantaneous Turn rate, roll rate, etc. added to the Info. Bar that is real-time telemetry for the user. It would allow users to see how much their loadouts, drop-tanks, altitudes, etc. were affecting flight performance.