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I have seen this same issue, but the track file was too huge. I was in single-player mode.

This is an interesting mod, similar subject:

@razo+r @Northstar98 @Tholozor @norman99 Thank you for your tips. Followed the fusion of them, and connected the first time. Now to practice...

@norman99including turning off the HMCS?

And for some of us, live long enough.

"Move along, sir. Nothing to see here. Keep moving..."

By the authority vested in me, APPROVED!! Now, back to reality...

That's an outstanding compromise, and again, I'd buy it. Q: Doesn't the AIM-120D require a Viper radar replacement?

True. There're bigger challenges to the F-35 than just the radar, tho.

Ha! Point taken. Yeah...both may be a bridge too far, but the V Viper could be easier.

608 USAF Vipers to Upgrade to V Variant I'd be willing to pay for this as a full module, if DCS took it on. I realize it comes with challenges, being "current" technology, etc. But a sim pilot can dream, right?

I saw this in single player mode, which is mostly what I've playing as of late. I will replay the MIZ where it showed and report back.

Good point. In the other Viper sim, we'd watch the AI cuz they'd know all. I wonder what the fog-of-war factor is on AI. I don't have enough experience with DCS to say.

BLUF: There's still some quirkiness in the VIper radar. @NuggetzSame here, but I wasn't carrying an ECM pod...just loaded A2A w/centerline bag, co-altitude at ~angels 22, targets 300-350kts. I get explanations about the radar not being able to break out 4 Blackjack in tight formation, seeing them as one. Even when the 4 Blackjack are spread visibly huge across my 10-2 line, the radar still doesn't see them as 4 targets. Antenna elevation was good, scan volume was good, slow conversion to the rear, etc.; there was ample time for the radar to see all of them. My live Hornet wingman never saw a single target in the formation, even though he had antenna elevation optimized, etc. We flew it multiple times, and the same results each time. Granted this was before the change to allow 4 Blackjack in a single group; however, 4 Blackjack should be 4 Blackjack to the radar, regardless of group setup in the Mission Editor. In a flight of 4 Fencer nearby in the same mission, I was able to break them out, although folks pointed out they were in a wider/loose formation compared with the Blackjack. I think I would agree with the explanation, EXCEPT, I had the Blackjack visual, clearly spread apart on my 10-2 line, me converting to a stern attack, and the radar still didn't see all four. It was the same in MP and SP missions.

All maps or? I had this issue in Marianas, even with AWACS, which I reported.

Thanks, good rundown. I really like the Viper's stick on the right, versus the center. I've flown both in my physical cockpit, which you can configure either way, regardless of the DCS module you're flying. I just like the stick on the right better, although this, too, is a matter of preference...there's no right or wrong.

Viper.

I have no choice but to believe you; however, if you look at the one pic above, I'm within 10nm, looks like 8nm, and I can see these HUGE Blackjack with my own eye, each of them, but the radar still "sees" only one. I can imagine, as I said, there being only one AWACS SA ELINT correlation. Hmmmmmm.....

@BIGNEWYany luck with the team?

Does this happen in real life? I'm seeking to understand, not splitting hairs.

@tweetI have suffered this problem, too.

@BIGNEWY Here you go; clean MIZ with air start...specs: I have a flight of 4 x Fencer off to my left, and the 4 x Blackjack singletons are to my right. AWACS is off to the north. Me in my Viper The Fencer flight is slightly farther away. First detect on Blackjack around 60nm. Fencer about 40nm. Between the 40nm and 20nm range threshold, I continue to see the same on the scope: I can break out the Fencer but not the Blackjack, either in EXP or non-EXP. I can visually see the Blackjack in formation outside 20nm. Inside the 10nm to 5nm threshold, I can break the Blackjack apart, the same with the full-up MIZ file. I shot at the Blackjack to see if they'd scatter earlier. Once within the label range, I see the Blackjack labels for each. in this one, I seem to get multiple AWACS SA Blackjack tracks on the FCR, but not on the HSD. I always get multiple Fencer SA tracks from AWACS, and the same with Flogger in other missions based on the same full up MIZ file. Still seems fishy the Fencer throw off a better return in EXP or non-EXP modes. F16vBlackjackTestSPairStart.trk

@BIGNEWY Hopefully in order, you will see 4 x Fencer in EXP mod at 30.8nm. Next, 4 x Blackjack showing as a singleton, NOT EXP, just outside 20nm. Lastly, 4 x Blackjack in EXP showing as a singleton on radar and AWACS feed, just outside 20nm. The JPG file names are labelled accordingly. For my other pictures, when the Blackjack flight breaks apart, I acknowledge there is latency between that event and when I get the networked SA feed showing hostile-red tracks. I'm not expecting those trons to flow at light-speed. Later, I get the corresponding SA track, albeit lagging the radar return on the FCS, which I guess would be normal latency within 10nm. Further to this, while I don't have a track file to prove it since DCS CTD when exiting that MP mission, my "live" Hornet wingman didn't have either radar or SA tracks until after the flight broke apart. I did have pics from that mission, but I didn't include them...you have correlated pix from the track files I included there. Clearly, something's amiss...if you want to fly my MIZ, let me know.

I did EXP, and it did not alleviate this issue. I think I have a pic of Blackjack fail and Fencer success. Will attach when I find it. @BIGNEWY