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In the latest video, Wags showed in the DTC that we will be able to adjust the countermeasure system, which is great because there is a lot to adjust! You will have to be careful with it becuase you can just spam single flares like FC3, you have to choose a programming that uses them quickly or slow for the whole flight with some breathing room! It works on the basis of doing two salvos. Then a pause then two salvos again. We can adjust how many flares in each salvo, from 1-4. then in the middle are two delay knobs, they decide the time between the salvos, and the time between the salvo pairs. If you set them to their lowest value to facilitate spamming, it’s a 0.5 s gap between salvos and a whopping 5 seconds between salvo pairs. Then we have two dials on the end that determine how much the salvo pair is repeated. The thing is, there is one for air to air and another for air to ground here why On the front dash, in front of the stick, right above the flare counter, is a 3 position switch titled “ Ground/front hemisphere/rear hemisphere.” This changes between 3 flare programs. If you keep it in front hemisphere, it is exactly what you program into these dials. If you set it to rear hemisphere, it doubles it. So 2 flares in a double salvo become 4. AND, both these programs double themselves if your altitude is above 6,000m. Which will mean you won’t be able to spam flares at low altitude as much as you up high. So, basically if you set switch to rear hemisphere below 6,000m, and front hemisphere above, your flare program won’t change becuase you the front hemisphere setting will halve the flares as you go above 6,000m which doubled them. But will take some mindful work. Then we have the ground setting. It is not altitude dependent as far as I can tell, and will be triggered when you also press the weapon fire button. Know earlier how I mentioned the dials on the right end are for determining how much the double salvos repeat themselves? The air to air one goes from 1-8. So setting it to one you get your double salvo, wait 5 seconds, and you can flare again or not. However, the dial for air to ground mode goes from 6-32. Even setting it to 6, gives you over 30 seconds of constant flares. With only 60 flares, that will burn a lot! However, I think it will be useful when at say 20 km to an enemy plane, to ward off any long range sidewinder shots and allow you to not have to hit the flare button over and over again. Then once in WVR switch to rear hemisphere for max flares. I expect many people to hate it. If you set it to the lowest value for all you get Ground- 12 flares over 33 seconds Front hemisphere below 6k meters; 2 flares (separated by 0.5 s) then 5 second pause. Rear hemisphere below 6k meters: 4 flares (2 at once, 0.5s, then two more), then 5 pause Frint hemisphere above 6k; 4 flares then 5 s pause Rear hemisphere above 6 k: 8 flares (4 at once, then 0.5 s, then 4 more,) then 5 s pause. You will have a light by right elbow that tells you when the 5 s is over. As I have thought about it I really think this “lowest setting” I describe above is the best as it is more flexible. But as things happen I might have to increase the amount of flares in each salvo (maximum 4, 16 if in rear hemisphere mode and above 6k meters, a quarter of your flares!) Also enclosed pictures of the switch above the flare counter and flare status panel

What he simply meant was how you use the 3 beacon points The normal before spawn method only allowed you to assign 6 points, but not the 3 beacons. With DTC, you can assign beacon points. What he meant was that they don’t have to be beacons, you could make them any spot you want and it will work. But I don’t think he really went into why you shouldn’t do that. Your whole dead reckoning nav system is pretty inaccurate and only with RSBN correction is it “good.” So if you want to have correction when at the front, you will want to assign those 3 points to beacons proper. That’s all it was.

It’s also completely unrealistic. They probably added it to help people know what speed they are looking at. If they made a FF, you would just have to know what modes gives you IAS and TAS. It will be same in FF MiG-29

Be careful what you wish for. MiG-29K adds more weight then thrust, performs overall worse

Not to mention altimeter is properly inaccurate

What about Sparrow? Against Phoenix, atleast you have missile tag that estimates the closure of a long range missile

Would love to know if they plan radar overspill to RWR to be modeled on release so we will be unable to use radar and RWR at the same time And if we will ever get launch warning against Sparrow missiles. Perhaps with the “automatic” setting described above while stock doesn’t, to simulate the waveforms having been acquired and uploaded to its threat library

Buttons? The entire FC3 HUD is wrong. Sensor interaction wrong

I wonder what would happen then if in TP/TP CC/Helm, and you turn on interaction. You lock a friendly. The laser is on so radar STT’s and locks itself. Then, with this friendly l locked with IRST and radar but in a TP mode, you turn on the switch to not lock any friendlies, would it drop lock? Perhaps the system knows the IFF from the radar despite not displaying it? But doesn’t matter. I’ll have to check friendlies with AWACs/EWR to make up for interaction mode not being able to show IFF in a TP mode when switched to radar leading, or just switch modes quickly. I assume this is more correct. I know you don’t agree with switching to leading radar when selecting Fox 1 when interaction/coop is on, but it’s in two sources ED has used before so I expect them to model it

Unfortunately F-14/15/18 don’t use CW

Are you saying when in TP mode and switching from TP to RL leading it would show aspect arrow? And, a recent video makes it appear that the aspect arrow changes in length. By any chance, do you know if the aspect arrow actually changes length in relation to target speed? It would make sense as there is no other indication of the speed of a locked target.

Anyone? It’s not like SPO-15 is something that everyone knows everything about. Especially when some pilots have experienced the overspill and some haven’t. For example, it apparently happened to the German Air Force birds quite a bit. And of course many people will take anything from the GAF on MiG-29s as gospel. All I ask is the least charitable interpretation not be used

Okay thank you. I don’t think it was entirely unreasonable to think it would show IFF with Radar leading. Does this mean if switch to Radar leading it won’t even show things like aspect arrow and interception circle, the rhombus?

Yeah, and was bulky enough pilots didn’t like it, and only slewed to 22 degrees, leading to it being a dead end

The 50, 30, 10 lights all light up and you get signal strength of 8. So when you look at it all you see is your radar.

You would think so, but a surprising number of people, of all origin believe it was normal for SPO-15 to be rendered useless by your own radar.

No? It is clear from talking to many people that radar overspill onto the RWR was not “normal” but an issue. And DCS does not simulate bad maintenance or equipment issues. And if F-14/15/18 firing sparrow is truly indistinguishable, it is quite a difference that Western RWR can magically detect it. After all, can they detect pseudo faked CW waveform of N-019?

They come from flight manual which only lists referring missile launch from Nike Hercules, and warnings about overspill from radar. If western RWR can detect Sparrow launch, the SPO-15 with automatic setting should also!

I’m aware KOLS with radar ranging wouldn’t show IFF. But after you press lock a second time and it transitions to STT radar leading? Under interaction mode…. I was also trying to figure out what this highlighted passage says

You are correct. The other manual is a translation of the Yugoslavian L-18 manual, so includes chapters on combat use that GAF lacks.

There are two things that keep me up at night about SPO-15 Let’s tell ED what we think! Most important, there are warning in manual and some pilot reports that radar can POSSIBLY overspill to RWR. But the manual doesn’t say it will happen only a warning that it might, and I have talked to pilots who said that they did not experience this. So it seems to me this is down to sync circuits being off, and possibly needing replacement or maintenance. Therefore, it should not be modeled as default this way in DCS MiG-29. second, there is supposition that it may not detect Fox 1 launch by F-14/15/18. The manual mentions being able to know when Nike Hercules has launched on it by its datalink signals, so that is the only one that can be confirmed. Some say F-14/15/18 don’t change illumination when firing Sparrow. But I was reading APG-65 manual the other day and there were lots of references to “PDI ( pulse Doppler illumination)” needing to be injected to both tune and guide the Sparrow. I am assuming perhaps that we may not be able to see Fox 1 launch on the “stock” ME setting but see it on the automatic one with the assumption that the details of this PDI have been loaded into it. But really, haven’t redfor suffered enough? Not even SPO-10 has RF overspill! The radar is only on 25% of the time! That should be no issue for sync circuits! Redfor has suffered and suffered. I would much prefer there were atleast options available for us to not have a RWR that can’t be used with radar or will not see Fox 1 launch (forcing us to rely on the estimated missile tag, that assumes they have fired on us at 3 bars signal strength and shows an approximate missile closure from that point, however useful that might be for longer range fox 3 shots). Interested if anyone has anything to add. And to show ED how much having a RWR that sees its own radar and can’t see missile launch would be ill received from a large portion of the player base expecting something that atleast does its job however imprecise! Su-27 manual also mentions possible interference from radar, but in addition to saying “POSSIBLE,” also says it can be solved by turning radar off and back on. I would be fine if this happens say every 10th radar cycle. But every time????

The one published by NATO

The whole Amazon manual thing is just plausible deniability. Those two manuals are not enough to make a module. They are using every source they can, but saying they are using Amazon manuals to not receive un welcome attention from the government and accusations of using sensitive information. ED since being founded has no doubt accumulated a vast wealth of MiG-29 information from all over the place. But with recent developments of course they have to be careful when making a plane certain countries still use in active service or used until recently. They also don’t really read the forums. That’s for community managers and for them to pass on any info. Especially the English forums. And with MiG-29 team busy, community managers aren’t going to get every question answered with unfettered access.

No

I mean there’s only two manuals on Amazon. Both are decently priced. I bought both of them. They complement each other nicely becuase one is non combat systems and the other handles combat. Just buy both