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Not sure this is what he meant (ie, ffb effects available during early access), but great job at putting words in his mouth. Honestly, would be great but understand that this is not a priority.

Any chance you have a picture of the part you used? Either way, thanks for the hint. I still hear a click when I pull to the second detent, but maybe that isn't the switch actuating.

Just wanted to say thanks to debolestis and Sergey_Pe for taking the time to post this. I used your pics to convert my own F-22 to work on Warthog compatible devices. For some reason the second stage of the trigger doesn't work (doesn't look like anything is pinched), but I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.

Small update. I converted a Thrustmaster F-22 stick grip using the tailpiece from an old Warthog grip (I actually bought stuff from Shapeways to do it, but nothing fit exactly right). The grip is good since it's lighter, so that may become the primary if I can't get the T-50 to work. I've also found an extension for sale on E-bay where the seller is willing to customize the extension length. I'm getting a custom length of his so-called 'Goose Neck' version, so I can move my seat closer to the stick without contacting the extension. The listing is posted here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ALUMINIUM-EXTENSIONS-FOR-THRUSTMASTER-WARTHOG-COUGAR-H-O-T-A-S-JOYSTICKS-/292123030904 After sending him a .ppt with measurements of what I want, he told me he'd go ahead and make it, send me pictures, and then I can buy it through the listing on Ebay.

Just received mine today. Definitely a nice piece of equipment, and DCS would definitely be awesome if the FFB plugin ever became a reality. So far, I only have two complaints: 1) It's pretty bulky, and as I intend to use it primarily for helo flights, it's kind of a pain to get it setup for a center mount. I have the Monstertech mount for it, but it just exacerbates the base size. Basically, I'm going to have to figure out a way to mount it low, with a really light extension and grip so as not to dampen the force feedback, or stress the motors too much. 2) I bought a T-50cm grip from Virpil, thinking that would fill the gap of a light grip, but unfortunately, no matter what I do, I can't get the buttons to register. I have a BRD Black Stork with a Warthog grip on it. The Warthog grip works on both bases. For whatever reason, the T-50 will only work with the Black Stork base. I've contacted both Brunner, and Virpil. So far, Virpil says they don't know what the problem is, and that they don't list the CLS-E as a compatible device. We'll see if Brunner has any ideas... Otherwise, so far the base is great as a helicopter cyclic. I'm able to assign whatever button I like as a trim release, as well as a trim hat for fine tuning. I'm looking forward to trying it out with Prepar3D and XPlane to see what the native FFB modes are like.

I asked the Brunner customer service reps about using the hardware trim functionality to emulate helicopter force trim, with a trim release button, in sims that aren’t supported by their API (specifically DCS). They confirmed that this is true, using their software, it’s possible. I took the plunge, and will definitely report back once I’ve received the stick, and tried it. The only thing that worries me, is the max force is much less compared to that of their cyclic, so I hope it can stand up to using an extension with the Warthog grip.

Okay, so apparently I can't follow instructions completely. I had originally calibrated with Windows only, so when I re-read the install instructions to make sure I had done everything right, I realized there was a Throttle Calibration tool. After using that program, I ran into an issue of the stick being way off center toward the top (opposite of the original issue I was having). I took a chance and calibrated with Windows again (I know, against the original instructions, but just wanted to try it), and now everything works as it should. Thanks again, great piece of kit!

Until it moves. ATFLIR ATW.

Definitely interested in two when they are available.

so, I'm happy with the control improvement, however, it seems that the slew does not always return to center, and gets stuck slightly downward. This makes it hard to keep slewed on something, as I have to remember to physically bring it back to center.

I've had mine awhile, and only recently got around to putting it together. So far, I have a problem with the middle collective coolie (multiple button presses when pressing any direction), and the cyclic only has the top coolie, and 3 out of four buttons on the bottom coolie working. All other buttons are dead. Apparently mine is an older assembly, but this is pretty disappointing.

Awesome, I’d definitely buy two.

Hey debolestis, Is this something that could be done sturdy enough by a 3d printer to use as a joystick mount? I just dug an old Obutto rig out of the closet, and want to be able to mount a Gunfighter Pro to it, and I'm having a heck of a time trying to find a place nearby that can do this in metal. Original post: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=189345 Bracket.pdf

So, I fired up the beta today, and went to work re-assigning my keys the way I like them. Everything seems fine, except I can't re-assign the weapons release key. It defaults to Button 2 on my joystick, but when I re-assign it to button 1, the entry turns red, and it doesn't work. If I leave it at default, it works fine, but I don't like that button position for firing weapons. I've tried clearing the category, and reassigning a few times with the same result.

He may be referring to a source such as this one (taken from the US Army’s 3-04.203): 1-197. Recovery from settling with power may be affected by one, or a combination, of the following ways: -During the initial stage (when a large amount of excess power is available), a large application of collective pitch may arrest rapid descent. If done carelessly or too late, collective increase can aggravate the situation resulting in more turbulence and an increased rate of descent. -In single-rotor helicopters, aviators can accomplish recovery by applying cyclic to gain airspeed and arrest upward induced flow of air and/or by lowering the collective (altitude permitting). Normally, gaining airspeed is the preferred method as less altitude is lost. -In tandem-rotor helicopters, fore and aft cyclic inputs aggravate the situation. By lowering thrust (altitude permitting) and applying lateral cyclic input or pedal input to arrest this upward induced flow of air, the aviator can accomplish recovery. It’s never really taught as a recovery option, since getting into vrs unwittingly in the first place is a result of poor flying technique. If someone accidentally finds themself settling, it’s probably too late for the collective pull to save them. How much power would be required exactly would be a function of gross weight, and power available, with something above hover power certainly being required if no fore/aft/later cyclic is applied.

Don, As someone who has a Gunfighter, and a T-50, I think you won’t be disappointed. I ran a WH grip on it until I received my MCG, and the T-50 has been collecting dust pretty much the entire time. Nothing wrong with the T-50, but I just like the feel of the Gunfighter better.

I made the mistake of buying one of his helicopter sim control sets almost two years ago, and it was never shipped.

Cool, thanks.

Does this module still only use CCD/IR guided Mavs like the A-10?

So where's the NH-90? After how many years?

Just wanted to say thanks again! It took a little reading to figure out, but programming the stick through VKBDevConfig doesn't seem too hard now.

I'll take a look, thanks

Thanks Sokol. I have the KG-12 profile, and have tried it, but I'm trying to make the pinkie switch (NWS) on the Warthog grip a shift button.

Does anyone know if if there's a way to map buttons with the VKB config software such that one of the buttons on the stick is a "shift" button? Basically, such that the DX buttons are numbered 1-30 (arbitrary number) without the buttons pressed, and 31-60 with the shift button pressed? I know DCS has modifiers built in, but I'm hoping there's a way to do this outside the sim, kind of like Target with TM products.

I wouldn't dare. Unless you want a weak, less useful helicopter that can't carry near the same combat load. Aside from that, the poll isn't really complete. There are a ton of other 60 variants. Honestly, I think a Lima model is probably more probable and feasible. If attack is all people really want, the Columbians have the AH-60 DARPIA, although I suspect it could be re-configured for other missions.