Gunnar81

My beloved Harrier seemed ok to me last night, has it been a while since you took it for a spin? I know coming from fly by wire modules back to the Harrier after a while is a bit of an eye opener.

I could be off here but isn't there a trigger guard or lock that can be toggled and/or shut off in the special options menu? Its been a while since I played around in the Apache so maybe I'm thinking of a different module.

Sounds like it might be a trim issue if you are landing with yaw peddle trim set for forward flight and when you are stationary on the ground it is trimmed to input peddle. I would try resetting trim after you touch down and set park brake as mentioned.

I think this is the answer here. 20,500lbs is the MAX weight at perfect conditions at sea level with a strong head wind and the Tarawa going 20kts into that head wind. Even then you'll be using water just to transition and maintain a hover. With any kind of warm air temp and no head wind to transition into its going to be even harder on the jet. Gotta dump more fuel or stores as the conditions change regardless of what the VL values show on the MFD. I assumed the MFD values were showing what weights were permissible with the current conditions but maybe they are showing 'ideal' conditions? This I don't know.

I did another test and I think you might be onto something here. I had to go around 600lbs below the stated fuel weight on the VL page before I could maintain a hover danger of dropping into the water. Basically I used the 'Dry' weight, dropped my fuel by 600lbs and used Water while landing. So MAYBE either the engine isn't producing enough thrust or the VL page is displaying incorrect values for fuel weight? Hard to say what is going on here. For clarity I was landing on the Tarawa at Sea Level, had a total weight of around 19,000lbs.

Thanks for all the contributions by everyone here. This was an enlightening thread!

I was hoping you'd comment AeriaGloria the wise sage of the Hind always has the answers. Hopefully I'll have some missions or a campaign to share with the community soon.

Thanks, I figured it was about that but good to confirm!

Anyone know roughly how long the Hind can fly on a full tank with a tyical loadout at cruising speed? Just looking for a rough number like 2hours or 1.5 hours...trying to make some longer missions and wondering how to plan FARPs etc. Thanks.

100%. I was going to build some Canadian bases in the area so I could think of building some Huey/Chinook missions but I think I'll wait for some map updates. Im hoping ED will go the Syria route and show these bases in better detail.

This bug is back again....

Right now in DCS, several of the FOBS in the Khandahar area have a blob of housing popped right over top their position. But you can see on the satellite imagery underneath there are HESCO barriers. I hope they at least fix this or leave these areas open for the playerbase to populate properly. OR go the Syria route and populate the map with the FOBs as part of the map. When you have a map that has had real world conflict this seems to make the most sense to me. People want to conduct missions out of real historical bases.

There were off yes, which makes the issue all the more confusing. I think it might have been a 'one off' bug due to god knows what going on in DCS.

I just tried this one tonight as well and both times my wings got caught on that fence. Think its from the recent map change, my guess is we have to go the long way around.

Agreed. Guess we wait to see who or if anyone will update the module...

There is a thread from way back I stumbled on last night have alseep I think on the Kerman Campaign sub forum. ChillNG mentioned using the OPT? fuse setting for higher altitude. Sounds like the CBU fuse settings for the Harrier are time based not altitude with the default fuse opening the canisters at 1.2 seconds. I'll see if I can find and link it below. See this thread for ChillNGs findings on the CBUs for the Harrier https://forum.dcs.world/topic/355977-mission-9-fails-due-to-killing-friendlies/#comment-5505639

Its always pretty cool seeing someone dedicate their life to something singular like that. Mastery of the craft. I'm sure the opportunity popped up for him to move to a different airframe more than once, glad he stuck with it. Makes me want to load up and fly the Hawg!

Just had a hiccup with this one as well. I've done the second show of force, destroyed the first AAA pop up and now on the second pop up Vader asks me to confirm tally. I can't get the radio menu to function, it just sits that showing the F10; 1 or 2 options graphic and not matter what I do nothing responds. On right radio channels and all that, not running a single mod or even TacView.

I just tested the Harrier on the stock Carrier Landing mission on the Caucasus. VREST page shows you at around 19,700lbs at mission start and I had around 19,300lbs at my final hover and landing on the deck. With water on I had no issues with power or maintaining the hover but I was definitely at near the max power band, which makes sense as that is nearly the max weight to perform a vertical landing at sea level. Now, if you are trying to vertically land at higher elevation like say Nellis or Afghanistan I think you will notice that those atmospheric parameters don't allow for the vertical regime of landing and IRL the jet would use a short takeoff/landing or conventional takeoff/landing procedures. As noted above the engine was tweaked several years ago to be closer to its actual performance IRL, but always check your VREST page before attempting kind of vertical landing. It is also important to note that while the Harrier was designed to hover, its not a flight regime that it was meant to be able to sustain for anything longer than the required time to transition to either forward flight or landing on the ground.

I seem to recall your absolute max weight for vertical landing was 20,000lbs and that is going to require you to use water and near max throttle to keep a hover. Are you checking your VL MFD to confirm weight before attempting?

This is a really good idea, fly to within a certain radius of the tanker and open the refuel/rearm menu and drag your fuel slider over to full and done deal. Would be a nice option, I would most likely do an actual AAR but its there for those who want it.

I think there is a bug report NineLine responded to on the Razbam Ed spat thread regarding the ATHS being borked, maybe this is the issue?

Ottoman Courier? I think Baltic Dragon has put anything Harrier related on hold for now but report it as a bug in his section of the forum and maybe he'll take a look at fixing it.

Well thats a tote board for takeoff parameters for the Harrier. But as far as I know it is not a stock function of the module but an add in some mission makers use. You must be flying a User Mission I assume?

Others may have interpreted it different, but ED has stated in the ongoing Razbam threads that RB modules considered complete, so the Harrier, Mirage, Mig 19 will be maintained as they are with ongoing fixes to keep them working. Only the F15E is murky as it was still considerex 'in development' and early access.