Normandy Map Discussion

if anyone wants to break off mission to rob a bank behind enemy lines lemme know..

I got "burning bridges" on the MP3 player...

I didn't know that was just a prototype, if I knew that, I wouldn't post that because I agree. I find that SPAAA very cool though.

No, there was no prototype. It was just a development on paper. They took the blueprints of the Sd.Kfz. 171/PzKpfW V Panther, removed the KwK turret and and designed a special turret fitting a twin 3.7 cm Flak 43 mounting.

I have my doubts of whether the turret would have looked anything like the illustration you posted.

I wouldnt be opposed to prototypes if we ever reach a point when we have ever single unit ever produced and ED gets bored and wants more to create :) Beyond historical missions in Normandy, there is nothing wrong with fun missions or fantasy what if missions.... heck a cold war gone hot mission could work in Normandy as well :)

If... we ever reach that point :smilewink:

Get ready to see me flying the F/A-18 over Normandy... ;)

Why not, gotta push the Soviets back :)

If we have enough equipment, I would think the Fulda Gap would be the most likely place for an hypothetical Warsaw Pact/NATO conflict in the 60'-80's. At least that's what the doctrines of the era stated, and many games were on the table back then, depicting exactly this.

That or WP push on Hamburg to block the harbor from staging ReForGer.

don't know how much work is it from 1944 design to make a year 2000 design would be cool..to punch some Nato Forces snipe ;)

I already asked about whether the airfields would be time/frame conform.

Large cities like Caen and St. Lô would probably see the most changes; that the major roads going from country road to freeway.

But the towns will not change that much. I was lead tester for an historic WWII FPS. We were developing some Normandy maps and comparing Google Street View with old photos. All of the houses had new paint, some had been modified a little, some few were gone, and some few new houses had been built (sometimes a housing project in a corner of a town). A few new companies near the large cities, markets, gardening & home-improvement centers, a few apartment building. But most of it was exactly the same as on the photos, only cleaner, less damaged, and in color.

if anyone wants to break off mission to rob a bank behind enemy lines lemme know..

 

I got "burning bridges" on the MP3 player...

Now those are some good vibes man :D

The NATO-Dunkirk, that would be :huh:

.. and some damn fool Admirals send the USS Gerald Ford and the Russian Kuznetsov into the English Channel, not so much to pick up a load of Calvados... ;)

Caen was almost completely destroyed...

But we have it fresh and shiny for your efforts with bombers.

I doubt it i can see many stray bombs :lol:

I doubt it i can see many stray bombs :lol:

Racoon will the be any battle scarring of the landscape? After all the pounding leading up to and from Overlord itself, craters, ruined house, bridges ec.?

When you say "late june.." is that because of the airfields you have modelled?

The screenshots look incredible by the way. You have our permission to release it for public testing now;)

If we have enough equipment, I would think the Fulda Gap would be the most likely place for an hypothetical Warsaw Pact/NATO conflict in the 60'-80's. At least that's what the doctrines of the era stated, and many games were on the table back then, depicting exactly this.

 

 

Large cities like Caen and St. Lô would probably see the most changes; that the major roads going from country road to freeway.

 

But the towns will not change that much. I was lead tester for an historic WWII FPS. We were developing some Normandy maps and comparing Google Street View with old photos. All of the houses had new paint, some had been modified a little, some few were gone, and some few new houses had been built (sometimes a housing project in a corner of a town). A few new companies near the large cities, markets, gardening & home-improvement centers, a few apartment building. But most of it was exactly the same as on the photos, only cleaner, less damaged, and in color.

 

Forgot I live in Germany where is currently on every corner popping up a new House.

Many skilled Guys with Texture work skills for Maps around here, I would bet doesn't take long time with a upcoming Map Mod where we get some new paint job and and different Roads . But right now hopping it doesn't take so long to fly my WW2 birdies over Normandy.

http://ncap.org.uk/search/keywords/Normandy?free-text=yes#free-text=yes&zoom=3&lat=5808098.38281&lon=-12230993560.094&layers=BT

12,498 aerial photos of Normandy.

Caen was almost completely destroyed...

But we have it fresh and shiny for your efforts with bombers.

That's true, but many of the small towns haven't changed all that much, if they weren't fought over heavily.

Yes, we have many ALGs integrated to the map.

 

And yes, you can make as much craters, ruined houses, etc. as you want to with your in-game force during a missions))

Hmmm, will there also be a fairly simple way to create battle damage in the ME, instead of always starting with a virgin map? Would be interesting for missions containing CA units to recreate specific battles.

Forgot I live in Germany where is currently on every corner popping up a new House.

Many skilled Guys with Texture work skills for Maps around here, I would bet doesn't take long time with a upcoming Map Mod where we get some new paint job and and different Roads . But right now hopping it doesn't take so long to fly my WW2 birdies over Normandy.

Even in Germany, when you get away from major cities, there are rural areas which haven't experienced a lot of major changes. Take a drive through the Hürgtenwald some time :smilewink:

I don't suppose it will be feasible, but a damage accumulation facility would be great. In other words, if you destroy something in mission 1, it remains destroyed for all subsequent missions in the same series. Areas like the Falaise pocket were utterly clogged with destroyed vehicles, cattle and all the other detritus of war.

Another absolutely key reason for this is the need for bridges etc to stay destroyed.

So can we possibly see a map saving system? An ability to edit the maps to show destruction too?

That would be something for a campaign, but definitely interesting in that context. Otherwise what subsequent mission would you be talking about.

If this were something like Arma, I would say it would be absolutely mandatory.

Maybe with AI bombers added to DCS it will gain on importance. We'll see I guess.

They are not destroyed as well.

 

 

Should be possibility to set the area for destruction before mission's start.

Would be great for more dynamic campaigns and missions...

WORD!

btw, any word about new FlaK?

Excellent to hear that, thanks for the heads up Racoon.

....dynamic campaigns...

Uh oh sith, you said the magic word ;:D

Definitely a first step down the dynamic campaigns road anyway.