Harrier Training Missions

As this comes back as a recurring question, with agreement with RAZBAM I am posting some more information about the training missions for the Harrier:

1. There will be two sets of interactive and fully voiced - over training missions included with the module. One in NTTR and one in Caucasus.

2. Both will cover the basics, though some content will differ (for instance the shipborne operations practice will only be available in Caucasus)

3. For mission design I am in touch with people with first - hand experience with the Harrier, so we'll make them as realistic as possible in DCS environment.

4. ETA - once the module is out of EA. In order to build good training missions most of the systems have to be fully modeled.

5. The missions will be added as they are released, so there will be no need to wait for the whole package. They will first appear here and later will be added to the module with subsequent updates.

6. This is just an idea at the moment - the missions will be released as longer sorties for those, who want to do more, but also split into shorter ones. Example:

Training mission 2: startup - taxi - rolling take off - simple waypoint navigation - normal landing - shutdown (this will be as one mission)

But also, in training, shorter parts of it will be available, so:

M02A. Startup

M02B. Taxi and take off

M02C. Simple navigation

M02D. Landing and shutdown - reviewing this part, as it turned out that going this way and also keeping separate missions may turn to a complete nightmare when it comes to updating them, I'll need to check / think some more about it.

DISCLAIMER: this list is based on real - life operating procedures and may be adjusted to DCS needs, depending on which functions will be modelled in the final version of the plane. Everything here is subject to change.

LINK TO THE MOST UP-TO-DATE SET OF TRAINING MISSIONS

Sounds good, looking forward to them!

I like the idea of splitting them into longer and shorter missions. Sometimes it's good just to practice a single portion of the flight :-)

Might I suggest doing a heavy gross weight one? Showing how the jet behaves when maxed out.

Great, sounds good. I agree that some training in NTTR will make it more real.

Great, sounds good. I agree that some training in NTTR will make it more real.

This!

Hope to see some training missions that include VTOL as well. :thumbup:

Might I suggest doing a heavy gross weight one? Showing how the jet behaves when maxed out.

That's the plan, obviously take offs and landings will take a lot of space for this bird. We need both light and heavy ones. And good deal of AAR training, as it is a must for realistic missions with carrier ops, unless one is OK with a very very short vul time or no weapons :)

Great, sounds good. I agree that some training in NTTR will make it more real.

Yup. To be honest, there is no way of doing a really realistic training in DCS, as even pilots coming back to Harrier from B-ticket and needing to refresh their skills would use a TAV-8B version for this... but at least we will get to the real thing as much as possible in NTTR :)

This!

 

Hope to see some training missions that include VTOL as well. :thumbup:

Yes. All kinds of take offs and landings will be taught & practiced.

Like the idea

Hey BD awesome news. If you haven’t already, take a look at the VMAT training syllabus that’s floating around. That’ll give you exactly what’s taught at the RAG for new pilots. It’s been very interesting to read.

Thank YOU very much! I can't wait! I only wish I could help you, but I'm an old rotary wing guy. Good luck!

So looking forward to those missions! I like the concept of offering small trainings, too. As planning to wait for the Harrier to come out of EA before starting to learn it, it's even perfect timing for me.

As this comes back as a recurring question, with agreement with RAZBAM I am posting some more information about the training missions for the Harrier:

 

1. There will be two sets of interactive and fully voiced - over training missions included with the module. One in NTTR and one in Caucasus.

 

2. Both will cover the basics, though some content will differ (for instance the shipborne operations practice will only be available in Caucasus)

 

3. For mission design I am in touch with people with first - hand experience with the Harrier, so we'll make them as realistic as possible in DCS environment.

 

4. ETA - once the module is out of EA. In order to build good training missions most of the systems have to be fully modeled.

 

5. The missions will be added as they are released, so there will be no need to wait for the whole package. They will first appear here and later will be added to the module with subsequent updates.

 

6. This is just an idea at the moment - the missions will be released as longer sorties for those, who want to do more, but also split into shorter ones. Example:

 

Training mission 2: startup - taxi - rolling take off - simple waypoint navigation - normal landing - shutdown (this will be as one mission)

 

But also, in training, shorter parts of it will be available, so:

M02A. Startup

M02B. Taxi and take off

M02C. Simple navigation

M02D. Landing and shutdown

 

Let me know what you think guys!

I think:

I love you

The idea of splitting longer missions into shorter ones is awesome. I really enjoy longer missions on the weekend, but it's really nice if you just want to practice a specific part to be able to just jump in that specific part of the mission by selecting the short version of it :thumbup:

Very well thought through

M02B

-Conventional Takeoff

-Short Takeoff

-Rolling Vertical Takeoff

-Vertical Takeoff

M02D

-Conventional Landing

-Slow Landing

- Auto Flap Fixed Nozzle

- STOL Flap Fixed Nozzle

- Auto Flap Variable Nozzle

- STOL Flap Variable Nozzle

-Rolling Vertical Landing

-Vertical Landing

:joystick:

You know you have my support for anything you want to create. And I’m always available to help create/test new missions. You know how to reach me. :)

Baltic please keep us updated as our squadron can use these to help out new pilots to the Harrier....Will be watching this thread closely..Salute!

M02B

-Conventional Takeoff

-Short Takeoff

-Rolling Vertical Takeoff

-Vertical Takeoff

 

M02D

-Conventional Landing

-Slow Landing

- Auto Flap Fixed Nozzle

- STOL Flap Fixed Nozzle

- Auto Flap Variable Nozzle

- STOL Flap Variable Nozzle

-Rolling Vertical Landing

-Vertical Landing

:joystick:

Yup, will try to cover all. Though some will be tougher to do in NTTR than Caucasus.

You know you have my support for anything you want to create. And I’m always available to help create/test new missions. You know how to reach me. :)

Roger that, I've got you on my list of people to pester about voiceovers, prepare to hear from me :D

Baltic please keep us updated as our squadron can use these to help out new pilots to the Harrier....Will be watching this thread closely..Salute!

Roger, wilco :thumbup:

I've viewed latest video of vertical take off procedure regarding DCS: Harrier AV-8B, cannot reproduce the same result? aircraft will not take off vertically? no vertical take off check list?

Can anyone advise on the correct procedure or is there a bug in the aircraft initial release?

Chris there's a few videos on You Tube just look for DCS Harrier Tutorial. Make sure you have no weapons except Aim9's... Biggest mistake for new pilots is the weight is to much for VTOL.

I've just bought the Harrier module - I normally fly the Spitfire and Huey - so some training missions will be a boon and I'd definitely be interested in purchasing them.

What timeframe are you looking to release these in?

Training Missions

Until the formal training mission are released, you can go to YouTube "DCS AV8B" and find training is just about all the currently active systems on the aircraft. Poster "Shiftie Mover" is a good source.

RedKite and Maverick have some good ones too!

Until the formal training mission are released, you can go to YouTube "DCS AV8B" and find training is just about all the currently active systems on the aircraft. Poster "Shiftie Mover" is a good source.

RedKite and Maverick have some good ones too!

Thanks - Had already found the RedKite videos - just taking a look at Shifite Mover now :)

I've just bought the Harrier module

Hook has some fantastic training missions for the AV-8B N/A, look in the description for a dropbox link to the files, place in your saved games/missions folder.

Hook has some fantastic training missions for the AV-8B N/A, look in the description for a dropbox link to the files, place in your saved games/missions folder.

 

 

Those are great videos.

Nice and relaxed speech plus missions as well. Subbed and will download.

Thanks @Hook

I've just bought the Harrier module - I normally fly the Spitfire and Huey - so some training missions will be a boon and I'd definitely be interested in purchasing them.

 

What timeframe are you looking to release these in?

Hey!

The missions will be free, and will be added as soon as I can create them, i.e. the module enters beta stage with all the systems functional. Otherwise I will end up doing training with parts that don’t function and I don’t want to go down that road, as end users are usually unhappy and I have twice as much work on updates, changes, new voice overs etc... so unfortunately you will have to wait a little longer, but there will be a good set of fully interactive missions.

Hey!

 

The missions will be free, and will be added as soon as I can create them, i.e. the module enters beta stage with all the systems functional. Otherwise I will end up doing training with parts that don’t function and I don’t want to go down that road, as end users are usually unhappy and I have twice as much work on updates, changes, new voice overs etc... so unfortunately you will have to wait a little longer, but there will be a good set of fully interactive missions.

Waiting for them guys! I will fly it like a noob until you release them XD. Will they come before Hornet? Who knows XD

2 interactive missions while waiting for those baltic_dragon (they are in french but very understandable).you Can find them on the description.

Rampstart :

Takeoff-navigation-landing: