Harpoon Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) Back in December I upgraded to 8.1, not expecting much difference from 8. Wrong. It took a turn for the worse, actually. Let me list some problems here. d3d9.dll (enb mods for example) is seemingly "blocked" and ENB no longer works My MIDI software keeps getting unregistered by the computer and I have to manually uninstall it RadeonPro doesn't work for 8.1, however, I think I've heard of a newer version that had its name changed. Don't know what Microsoft was thinking of when releasing this. I'm going to see what happens when I completely disable UAC. I'll edit when I see the results. UAC did nothing for rFactor, but I think RadeonPro just wasn't running with UAC enabled or running w/o admin. MIDI software will take some time. Edited March 23, 2014 by Harpoon If you want to talk to anyone about anything personal, send it to their PM box. Interpersonal drama and ad hominem rebuttal are things that do not belong on a thread viewed by the public. One thing i have to point out... naming a thread.. "OK, so" is as useful as tits on a bull.
159th_Viper Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 RadeonPro doesn't work for 8.1... Working fine here with 8.1 Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
joey45 Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 Was it a new install or updated? The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
javelina1 Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 really strange. I've got 8.1 pro installed, and a ton of stuff on the rig (hardware & software), and no issues. my O/S install was a fresh build, and not an upgrade. MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
cichlidfan Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) No issues here either. Three different machines. I also would not call any of those things that you listed a failure on Microsoft's part. Edited March 23, 2014 by cichlidfan ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Pepec9124 Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 Hibernation is not working for me on 8.1 Upgraded not from 8 disc. I'm mainly using Arch thankfuly, I am keeping Windows because of DCS and some other games. When vcredist 2012 gets implemented in Wine then I might not be back. Edit. Major show stopper: Starforce.
Gerg Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 Yea the more ive used 8.1 the more issues im running into. Pretty much every game i have installed should support the Xbox 360 controller but since going from Win 7 to 8.1 about 1/2 of them dont work with the controller anymore. Im also running into an issue with some installers or background services that make the pc grind to a halt while thrashing the hard drive. Even making the mouse and desktop hang for minutes at a time before bursting back into life, ive sen this happen a few times on this machine and on my gf new laptop that came with 8.1. Ive pretty much returned to using Win 7 in dual boot for most games and serious apps as 8.1 seems a bit 'rigged and rough around the edges. Just waiting for free weekend so can get this 8.1 turd off the system altogether. I also dont like the fact that a load of services like the Metro Store service, Windows Defender or other major services cant be controlled by any acct on the computer now and theres no way to disable them even using reg hacks.
PoleCat Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Windows 8.1 runs great. I moved from Windows 7 x64 to Windows 8 x64 and I never looked back. Now I have the best of both worlds. All of my apps and games run as good or better on the newer OS. "Change has no constituents". Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/
Feuerfalke Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 You cannot disable UAC in 8.1 The closest thing to it is the silenced-mode. It's still active, though. I had some troubles myself and I hate that power-safeing BS that disables my Cougar MFDs, because there is no input coming from them and what sends no input is switched off. Nice thinking. At least there should be an option to disable it other than hacking your registry. Anyway, most problem are negated by activation the option to run the program as admin. That solved 9 of 10 issues for me. MSI X670E Gaming Plus | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 64 GB DDR4 | AMD RX 6900 XT | LG 55" @ 4K | Cougar 1000 W | CreativeX G6 | TIR5 | CH HOTAS (with BU0836X-12 Bit) + Crosswind Pedals | Win11 64 HP | StreamDeck XL | 3x TM MFD
sslechta Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Win 8.1 running fine here too since it came out. Steve (Slick) ThrustMaster T.Flight Hotas X | TrackIR5 Pro | EVGA GTX 1070 | Win10 64-bit Professional | Dell Precision 7920 Workstation | 1 TB SSD | 128 GB Memory | Dual Intel Xeon Platinum 2.0 GHz 16 Core Processors (64 Total w/HT ON) | 24" Dell Monitor
Gerg Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) You cannot disable UAC in 8.1 The closest thing to it is the silenced-mode. It's still active, though. I had some troubles myself and I hate that power-safeing BS that disables my Cougar MFDs, because there is no input coming from them and what sends no input is switched off. Nice thinking. At least there should be an option to disable it other than hacking your registry. Anyway, most problem are negated by activation the option to run the program as admin. That solved 9 of 10 issues for me. http://www.eightforums.com/system-security/2434-disable-uac-completely.html Ive been using this since i installed 8.1 and its made the whole system more responsive. Gone is the micro delay for things to respond to clicks that appeared after every Os after Xp and i dont run into issues of installers failing due to UAC trying to virtualize important registry keys. You dont need UAC at all if you have a decent antivirus/IDS and all it does is bloat/lag the Os trying to virtualize everything which is pointless since 99% of malware bypasses uac anyways. I dont trust any MS supposed security improvements at a cost of a much more bloated Os when things like this:http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/11/microsoft_adobe_patch_tuesday/ https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms14-013 Can still ruin pc's all the way from Xp to 8.1 with just a picture file... Edited March 25, 2014 by Gerg
Lange_666 Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Don't have much of a problem here either except for a few minor issues that are mostly visual like the UAC overlay on some icons (not all) although i am the only admin and the only user. There's a workaround to get rid of these overlays so no big deal. The only thing that i can't get to work for now is my Logitech MK520 keyboard/mouse combo and Win8.1 sleep mode. When one or both has the option ticked that they can wake the computer they will do so on an irregular interval without me touching either mouse or keyboard. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
cichlidfan Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 I have always, in every version since the '90s, disabled every sleep, hibernate or 'energy efficient' function in Windows. It eliminates a lot of weird behavior. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Lange_666 Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Didn't use any sleep function before Windows 8 either (and no powersavings, just like now) but i did like the sleep mode in Windows 8. Tap op the keyboard and 2 secs later you where good to go. But it does not work under Win8.1 (at least not with the Logitech MK520). No solution from Logitech and non from M$ either, the only one they have is saying... do not use it... LOL. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
Abburo Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Use the power button on your mouse :D ... Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom
Lange_666 Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Doesn't work, then there is still the keyboard. If one of them is active, the computer comes out of sleep randomly. I could use the both the power buttons and set them to off everytime but then i could as good do what i do now, make the mouse and keyboard not wake up the computer and use the case powerbutton instead to wake it. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
Gerg Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 The one thing i do like on 8.1 is Hibernate. Gets from power button press to login screen in about 5 seconds on a 7200rpm hard drive. I was also having issues with my Logitech mouse restarting computer 2 minutes after turning off. All i did was disable keyboard from waking pc in System Properties and just turning off mouse quickly before Windows turned off. Pc turns back on now when turning the mouse back on.
Lange_666 Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 OK but that's a workaround, the initial problem is still there... Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
JetBLASTER Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 Yes I have problem to. Since update from 8 to 8.1 my MFD lights keep go on and off and never stop. Try 3 different USB port, install new software and drivers still no joy. If someone have some idea how to fix I very appreciate. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel® Core™ i7-6850 CPU@3.60GHz @4.068 Asus ROG STRIX X99 GAMING ATX Motherboard 64 bit operation System- RAM 32.0 GB Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 WindForce OC 8GB - Disk Drives KINGSTON SVP200S37A 1tb/WDC WD 10EZEX-00ZF5A0 - Samsung ssd 1tb 840 series. - 3 Samsung 27"SyncMaster 3D Game monitors - Windows 8.1 Pro - TM Hotas Warthog-Trackir5 pro-Saitek Rudder Pedals-Cougar MFD.
PoleCat Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 Yes I have problem to. Since update from 8 to 8.1 my MFD lights keep go on and off and never stop. Try 3 different USB port, install new software and drivers still no joy. If someone have some idea how to fix I very appreciate. This has been solved for quite some time now. The solution is posted elsewhere on these forums. Have a look here....... http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=115816&highlight=Cougar+MFD+windows&page=3 Post number 27 has the fix for this problem. Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/
JetBLASTER Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 This has been solved for quite some time now. The solution is posted elsewhere on these forums. Have a look here....... http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=115816&highlight=Cougar+MFD+windows&page=3 Post number 27 has the fix for this problem. Out Thanks Polecat . Very appreciate you help bro. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel® Core™ i7-6850 CPU@3.60GHz @4.068 Asus ROG STRIX X99 GAMING ATX Motherboard 64 bit operation System- RAM 32.0 GB Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 WindForce OC 8GB - Disk Drives KINGSTON SVP200S37A 1tb/WDC WD 10EZEX-00ZF5A0 - Samsung ssd 1tb 840 series. - 3 Samsung 27"SyncMaster 3D Game monitors - Windows 8.1 Pro - TM Hotas Warthog-Trackir5 pro-Saitek Rudder Pedals-Cougar MFD.
PoleCat Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Thanks Polecat . Very appreciate you help bro. My pleasure. Glad to help. :thumbup: Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/
JetBLASTER Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 I follow up this link ( http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.ph...windows&page=3 Post number 27 has the fix for this problem) And did not work on my situation .After trying some different ways to sort out my MFD cougar problems I find the Lock on and FC2 don't work either .(Common dll missing from computer). Try to run in compatible mode and they said this program is not compatible . So I reinstall the windows 8 back again and all work normal again .I know there is a lot of download to-do but solve the problem. Thanks everyone for the advices. *I wonder if windows 8.1 have something to do with this [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel® Core™ i7-6850 CPU@3.60GHz @4.068 Asus ROG STRIX X99 GAMING ATX Motherboard 64 bit operation System- RAM 32.0 GB Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 WindForce OC 8GB - Disk Drives KINGSTON SVP200S37A 1tb/WDC WD 10EZEX-00ZF5A0 - Samsung ssd 1tb 840 series. - 3 Samsung 27"SyncMaster 3D Game monitors - Windows 8.1 Pro - TM Hotas Warthog-Trackir5 pro-Saitek Rudder Pedals-Cougar MFD.
Pepec9124 Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 About my problems with hibernation and sleep mode. It turned out to be update from 8 to 8.1. After clean install of 8.1 it's working flawlessly, and since I had this problem not only on my PC then it means that upgrade process has major issues.
PoleCat Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 About my problems with hibernation and sleep mode. It turned out to be update from 8 to 8.1. After clean install of 8.1 it's working flawlessly, and since I had this problem not only on my PC then it means that upgrade process has major issues. I have upgraded all six of my machines from Windows 8.0 to Windows 8.1. Not a problem to be found. All went perfectly smoothly. It turns out that this Operating System is also working just fine in multiple domain environments which I mange as well. Most of the perceived problems with this OS can be explained by people's natural resistance to change combined with not understanding that you can easily set up Windows 8/8.1. to look feel and function much the same as it's predecessor Windows 7. Boot directly to the desktop, use a start menu etc. I have found that 99% of the complaints about this OS overblown and unfounded. It is a very reliable and feature rich Operating system which has clearly improved upon Windows 7 in many areas. Heard much the same noise when people were first transitioning from XP to Windows 7 as well. "Keep your hands of my Windows XP" they cried! Look at us now eh? Here we go again.........:megalol: Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/
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