More wingflex - flex on tails and fuselage too

[NRG-Vampire]

i would like to see more bone animated bendings on su-33 and f-15c/e, and new upcoming mig-29 models as well

but would be awesome to add tail and fuselage flex as well

under high Gs the vertical tails loosing their parallelism (f-15, su-27) - the whole fuselage is bent with wings and tails (outwards tilted tails will be vertical and parallel on the mig-29 under the extreme high G)

 

[NRG-Vampire]

We need more shake and more vapor too!

 

sure, and updated contrails too - which turns into visible backwards and will be bigger gradually like this, behind the f-16

 

[KaspeR32]

+1 to suggestions.

[Zabuzard]

that would be realy nice :D

[Zabuzard]

 

 

[flanker0ne]

Sincerely a waste of manpower :music_whistling:

 

IMHO the turbulence, while refuelling or in trail formation will be more usefully realistic

The turbulence between helicopters would be lovely

Edited April 8, 2014 by flanker0ne

[MemphisBelle]

Sincerely a waste of manpower :music_whistling:

 

IMHO the turbulence, while refuelling or in trail formation will be more usefully realistic

The turbulence between helicopters would be lovely

 

disagree, we NEED those effects, they are essential...but I agree with your second point :)

[leafer]

 

IMHO the turbulence, while refuelling or in trail formation will be more usefully realistic

The turbulence between helicopters would be lovely

 

+1

[Zabuzard]

Imo it would be nice but i agree with flanker, they first should focus on other thinks like EDGE (!!!) :D

[Python]

I agree on all of this, pulling G has many reactions that I'd love to see in the Sim eventually such as the vibration and wind noise as well as what has been mentioned here in regards to vapour and flexing. I'd love to see better Afterburner effects also. I guess we'll start seeing more effects like this as the foundations are more firmly in place for the sim (EDGE) If sevenG can achieve good looking wing flex, I'm sure ED can down the line.

 

I really don't understand people that say these kind of effects are a waste of resources however. Surely we play sims like this in the hope they will drag us into the moment, especially with future tech looking more and more impressive with the oculus and similar devices. I can only dream of the day we can scream through some realistic looking valleys in our F-18, dropping our bombs on target only to realise you have a bandit chasing you down forcing you to get your head on a swivel, looking back to see the wings flexing away and engulfed in vapour as you pull hard trying to shake the bad guy, all with rain drops crashing into your canopy... isn't that what such games are all about ultimately? Hopefully small effects like these will all come together to produce that kind of experience one day.

 

 

 

Edited April 8, 2014 by Python

[diveplane]

during taxi on ground would like to see wing flex when heavy payload is underneath.

[NRG-Vampire]

during taxi on ground would like to see wing flex when heavy payload is underneath.

 

sure, and when they releasing huge bombs large movements also visible on wings: transition to lower wing load

[HansRoaming]

Environmental effects really add to immersion, for FSX having something like Opus and Accufeel give you wind noise, creaks and also aircraft shake and turbulence that all add up.

 

Normally the wingflex discussions I see are about airliners! :)

[diveplane]

Environmental effects really add to immersion, for FSX having something like Opus and Accufeel give you wind noise, creaks and also aircraft shake and turbulence that all add up.

 

Normally the wingflex discussions I see are about airliners! :)

 

these things have already been added in.

[Witchking]

Yeah... wing flex is a good start... but we need ordinance vibration... wing vibrations on ground and in the air.

 

Not to mention...i hope they really fox the rain and snow effects with edge. Give us puddles... snow accumulation, mud in fields... etc

[Cali]

Yeah... wing flex is a good start... but we need ordinance vibration... wing vibrations on ground and in the air.

 

Not to mention...i hope they really fox the rain and snow effects with edge. Give us puddles... snow accumulation, mud in fields... etc

 

That is one cool thing about BMS, the weapons shake...it just adds a little more to realism :)

[SDsc0rch]

++1

 

!!

[ENO]

What amazes me is that the features the realism purists chase after are the ones they admire from unrealistic perspectives. Yes, during all maneuvering where any of these effects will be noticed a pilot will be looking directly at his payload lamenting at how it doesn't shake as he shifts his g load. Oh yeah- just looking over my shoulder while engaged with an opponent who is forcing me to angle and dangle with angels and the check six I do is to appreciate the shake of my weapons.

 

Gee. I sure hope ED pours the coal on this feature.

 

Fail.

[sorcer3r]

What amazes me is that the features the realism purists chase after are the ones they admire from unrealistic perspectives. Yes, during all maneuvering where any of these effects will be noticed a pilot will be looking directly at his payload lamenting at how it doesn't shake as he shifts his g load. Oh yeah- just looking over my shoulder while engaged with an opponent who is forcing me to angle and dangle with angels and the check six I do is to appreciate the shake of my weapons.

 

Gee. I sure hope ED pours the coal on this feature.

 

Fail.

 

When you are flying with the F16 on a certain altitude/speed your stores will start fluttering without maneuvering, And you will notice that not only by looking at the stores.

And during longer ingresses in bms you want to avoid that by changing altitude/speed so that your viper is flying smooth. ;)

 

 

Anyone knows if other planes have the same effect?

[McBlemmen]

Is sorcer3r's post bugging out for anyone else?

 

Anyway , i totally agree. I had never thought about this untill i played BMS and instantly noticed the stores and wings shaking , now i'm really disaapointed this doesnt happen in DCS

 

Let's hope ED knows that people want this and have it on their to-do list.

Edited May 12, 2014 by McBlemmen

[Irregular programming]

I agree fully, I wouldn't be against them doing an entire patch just for effect overhaul.

 

DCS has such an amazing flight model but it doesn't feel like you're flying an actual aircraft because these features are missing.

[NineLine]

This would be cool, and while I agree its sort of low priority, would love to see it some day. I wouldnt think it would be a huge undertaking to do some of this either...

[SDsc0rch]

i give props to BMS F4 for adding that feature - but i think they maybe "overdid" it a bit

 

compare what's in the sim to what you see in say youtube videos -- there's "something" different that's difficult to put a finger on..

 

know what i mean

 

i'm just saying.. theres room for improvement and i think ED could do it better

[Exorcet]

I don't really see any of it as necessary. The flex especially will probably go totally unnoticed unless you specifically look for it. Nice to add if everything else was done, but there are a lot of other things to do. Graphics are only one part of immersion, and I think they're fairly weak for immersion without the rest of the sim having a strong immersion factor.

 

Full cockpit controls for me is one of the best things for immersion, much more so than 3D 6 DoF cockpits.

[HuggyBear]

Vibrations, flutter, flex and deformation all exist in the real world.

 

If they are implemented/improved in DCS it will make it a better sim... even if some feel they will not notice it.

 

You'd notice it in the real aircraft, why wouldn't you want it in the sim?

 

This is a wish list thread after all...

 

- Bear