mjmorrow Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) As for the wish list, I would add support for 32 bit systems. At the time the P-51 was first released, my current pc, using 32bit Windows Vista, used to be able to run single player and multiplayer. Now I can only play in single player and I no longer meet current minimum specs. While I do have a lap top with 64 bit Windows 7, my lap top runs DCS with extremely poor frame rates, even on the lowest settings. There is no practical reason for me to go out and get a new pc, not for possibly several years time. I would greatly appreciate Edge allowing for 32 bit systems or creating settings that would run on laptops with 64bit systems. I would love to buy a new gaming PC, but I have no practical justification to purchase such a non essential luxury item. I would like to buy future add-ons, like the upcoming Mig-21bis or the Mig-15bis. Still, I have to wait for the release of Edge, in order to see if I can play with my current add-ons, at least in single player, otherwise I will have to stop playing DCS, for possibly a few years. Thanks for your consideration of my request.:thumbup: Edited August 15, 2014 by mjmorrow [sIGPIC]http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv250/mjmorrow76/SPAD%20of%20a%20new%20generation_zpshcbftpce.png[/sIGPIC]
cichlidfan Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 ED abandoned 32 bit support some time ago, for good reasons. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
SkateZilla Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 32-Bit had Memory Restrictions. 64-Bit Doesn't. Going from 32-Bit to 64-Bit only requires an OS Upgrade/Re-Install, almost every piece of hardware after 2005 is 64-Bit Compatible, the only Question mark is TV Tuners and Stuff. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Abburo Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 There is no practical reason for me to go out and get a new pc, not for possibly several years time. Just don't start you inquire with "no". There is hope ... just think twice! Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom
mjmorrow Posted August 15, 2014 Author Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Hmm, well, thanks for the advice and info. :thumbup: I will wait till Edge comes out, before buying any add-ons. If, after Edge comes out, I can't run DCS World in single player and/ or multiplayer, I will just save the money I would have put into DCS add-ons and in a couple of years purchase a gaming computer. I can still run Rise of Flight. So I can use that as my sole multiplayer flight sim, for a couple of more years, worst comes to worst. :joystick: P.S. Too bad they can't make at least multiplayer maps that work with my system. I don't really care for single player and such. I am a multiplayer specialist. Edited August 15, 2014 by mjmorrow [sIGPIC]http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv250/mjmorrow76/SPAD%20of%20a%20new%20generation_zpshcbftpce.png[/sIGPIC]
joey45 Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Check to see if you can update your windows to 64bit.. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Buckeye Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Would you just need to upgrade your OS, or am I missing something? Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
bigcountry Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 @OP just upgrade your OS....Costs like $150 US....Really...Couple of years... Communication is Key
ericoh Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Get a OEM windows, doesnt even cost 150$. 32-bit belongs to the past, rightfully so. I know it sucks for some people, but you gotta move on at some point! P.S.: You only need to upgrade windows, no need for a new PC. Edited August 15, 2014 by ericoh
SkateZilla Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Get a OEM windows, doesnt even cost 150$. 32-bit belongs to the past, rightfully so. I know it sucks for some people, but you gotta move on at some point! P.S.: You only need to upgrade windows, no need for a new PC. @OP just upgrade your OS....Costs like $150 US....Really...Couple of years... Depending on the license type, he can just re-install 64-bit and use the same license. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Home Fries Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Depending on the license type, he can just re-install 64-bit and use the same license. OP also said he is using Vista, so upgrading to Windows 7 may be necessary to run EDGE (DX11; Vista is DX10). Fortunately, Windows 7 x64 is under $100. -Home Fries My DCS Files and Skins My DCS TARGET Profile for Cougar or Warthog and MFDs F-14B LANTIRN Guide
WRAITH Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 (edited) W7 64Bit DX11 for DCS - EDGE High GFX Auh, yes the "GAMING UPGRADING DANCE"..................... why people fight it beats me.............. its always been like this for Gamers the constant technology move is hard to keep up with. A good Intel i7 Quad Core Processor running Windows 7 with a good GFX Card will get you through EDGE DX11 DX10 Recommended PC Specs for the next 5 years or so as i have been reading Forum. If people shop around long enough and haggle you can get good prices online. DX11 is the platform for many game titles now on a 64bit system with memory exceeding 6Gigs so no point in wasted debate your going to need more memory faster this and that. I think it will be worth it though if you want GFX at MAX settings but 32bit systems and software is being phased out. Vista is garbage. I always skip one version of Windows this also gives me more time between my upgrades. I always wait for reviews and how well each version of windows performs and Vista had heaps of issues. I am running Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit with 8 Gig memory cost me $180.00AUD 18 months ago. Its Stable and I'm really happy with performance. My advice go with W7 64Bit asap, I'm already planning and researching my next PC Case waiting for more news. Cheers, :beer: Edited August 16, 2014 by WRAITH
mjmorrow Posted August 16, 2014 Author Posted August 16, 2014 I actually have a Core 2 Duo processor, so all of these recommended updates may be a lot of effort for little pay off. I will just run this computer into the ground, save up my money, and get a new computer. If I can't run DCS, after Edge comes out, I will just hold off on buying add-ons, save that money and some other money, and I will get a new computer in a year or two. In a year or two, I should be able to get a computer for $500 to $700 that should be able to keep up with at least the low graphics settings of flight sims, for seven to ten years. :thumbup: [sIGPIC]http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv250/mjmorrow76/SPAD%20of%20a%20new%20generation_zpshcbftpce.png[/sIGPIC]
kazereal Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) I actually have a Core 2 Duo processor, so all of these recommended updates may be a lot of effort for little pay off. I will just run this computer into the ground, save up my money, and get a new computer. If I can't run DCS, after Edge comes out, I will just hold off on buying add-ons, save that money and some other money, and I will get a new computer in a year or two. In a year or two, I should be able to get a computer for $500 to $700 that should be able to keep up with at least the low graphics settings of flight sims, for seven to ten years. :thumbup: Where should I begin.. * Seven to ten years is a long time, especially with most advanced flight sims like DCS. * That computer sounds like it should have been buried a long time ago already. * You can get decent computer already for that money that will last for some time easily. * DX11 graphics cards have been out for something like five years old. * Windows 7 has been released something like five years ago - long time ago already. * Windows lifecycle is less than ten years usually so Vista is pretty soon out of support anyway. * 64-bit CPUs have been around for about a decade already.. Sure, it's hard to give up on something that has worked well for years, but asking for 32-bit support today is like asking for 486 with 3dgfx Voodoo support - not going to happen. It is time to move on so that simulation quality and scope can improve with better resources. Instead of pre-built you can get more efficient computer for less money by building it yourself. If you still have "classics" that you don't want to lose, just keep the old computer. You won't get much money out of it anymore.. Edited August 17, 2014 by kazereal 1 "I would have written a shorter post, but I did not have the time."
Weltensegler Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 OMG flashback ...3dx Voodoo, man was I proud when I got that thingy back then :D 4790K@4,6Ghz | EVGA Z97 Classified | 32GB @ 2400Mhz | Titan X hydro copper| SSD 850 PRO ____________________________________ Moments in DCS: --> https://www.youtube.com/user/weltensegLA --> WELD's cockpit: --> http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=92274
mjmorrow Posted August 17, 2014 Author Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) Yes, my computer is a bit of a...ahem....classic. :megalol: I am still going to keep it for atleast another year, though. I should technically keep it until it has a major failure. That is what I usually do with things. I just got rid of an air conditioner that was installed before I was born. It was installed in 1974 or something. I only got rid of it because it broke. My place has 1970's track lighting fixtures. I have a TV set that one of my relatives purchased back in 1986. I intend to keep it, till it breaks, then get a new 3d TV, virtual reality set, or add on a Holo deck, whichever is in vogue, when my RCA goes bye bye. :music_whistling: P.S. I hope that I can at least play single player, like I do now, when edge comes out. I would love to do that, till I get a new computer. Edited August 17, 2014 by mjmorrow [sIGPIC]http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv250/mjmorrow76/SPAD%20of%20a%20new%20generation_zpshcbftpce.png[/sIGPIC]
kazereal Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) P.S. I hope that I can at least play single player, like I do now, when edge comes out. I would love to do that, till I get a new computer. Uhh.. Well, with THAT version of software you have now installed, sure. Don't expect to run edge on it though, that train is long gone.. Edit: I mean, whole POINT of edge is that it takes advantage of newer hardware for better simulation quality. If current hardware has DirectX 11 and OpenGL 4.5, it is expected that in a year DirectX 12 and OpenGL 5 are released. So there's some years before edge needs to updated to more efficient version. It's a losing battle trying to support gradually aging hardware and API. Edited August 17, 2014 by kazereal "I would have written a shorter post, but I did not have the time."
Slazi Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Keeping an old PC because it still runs is not a great plan. It's like refusing to get a fiber optic internet connection because your floppy disk drive still works and you can type text files and post them to your friends instead of joining this flash in the pan internet fad. If you want to play modern games, upgrade when and if you can afford it. If money is too tight, stick with older games until you can afford an upgrade.
kazereal Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 I just got rid of an air conditioner that was installed before I was born. It was installed in 1974 or something. I only got rid of it because it broke. My place has 1970's track lighting fixtures. I have a TV set that one of my relatives purchased back in 1986. Other thing (in addition to being obsolete) is that newer hardware is also more energy efficient meaning you use less electricity etc. Just a thing to consider.. "I would have written a shorter post, but I did not have the time."
Lange_666 Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 All comments are fine but if you read a bit through mjmorrow's post then there is one little thing that pops up but that everybody seems not to be reading and that is ...funding... If that is't there, you can talk about any upgrade you want, it just will not happen, it stays talk. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
mjmorrow Posted August 17, 2014 Author Posted August 17, 2014 All comments are fine but if you read a bit through mjmorrow's post then there is one little thing that pops up but that everybody seems not to be reading and that is ...funding... If that is't there, you can talk about any upgrade you want, it just will not happen, it stays talk. Right now, upgrades aren't practical, especially for a seven or eight year old computer, running on a Core 2 Duo. :megalol: I am just going to save up, here and there, within a year or so I will easily have the funds to buy a whole brand new gaming rig that should serve my flight sim needs for a decade, or close to a decade. I can also use this time to do research on building my own rig, possibly saving me considerable time and money. It is no biggie. I just hope that I can play DCS World in single player or on a multiplayer map, for at least a year or two, while using my current rig. I just picked up the Sabre and I like the Sabre a whole lot. I was thinking of getting the Mig-21bis and the Mig-15bis, too. I will have to hold off on those purchases, if my rig can't handle the low end settings of Edge. I will see. :thumbup: [sIGPIC]http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv250/mjmorrow76/SPAD%20of%20a%20new%20generation_zpshcbftpce.png[/sIGPIC]
bigcountry Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 Wow. I guess the OP doesn't lime to listen. Well...you need a pc upgrade anyway. Communication is Key
SkateZilla Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 Yeah, Why Go backwards and re-integrate the 32-Bit Memory Restriction, which held DCS Back for years. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
mjmorrow Posted August 18, 2014 Author Posted August 18, 2014 Wow. I guess the OP doesn't lime to listen. Well...you need a pc upgrade anyway. Oh, I appreciate all of the advice. I do. Given the fact that my computer is already seven or eight years old, with a Core 2 Duo processor and all, I am just better off saving up money, instead of upgrading my current rig. In a year or so, I should be able to get a computer, for $500 to $700, that should be able to handle my flight sim hobby needs for 8 to 10 years time. In the mean time, I hope that I will be able to play with my Sabre in single player or maybe in multiplayer, after Edge comes out. If I can't, then I can apply the money I would have spent on the Mig-21bis, Fw-190, and Mig-15bis, toward the purchase price of the new computer. Still, I really appreciate all of the advice. :thumbup: [sIGPIC]http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv250/mjmorrow76/SPAD%20of%20a%20new%20generation_zpshcbftpce.png[/sIGPIC]
Darkwolf Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 32 bits are 15% of the marketshare, according to Steam hardware stats. If you can't upgrade - Stay to an older DCS version. you really prefer that than spending money on addons you won't be able to fly. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] PC simulator news site. Also....Join the largest DCS community on Facebook :pilotfly:
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