ED Team NineLine Posted September 8, 2014 ED Team Posted September 8, 2014 Trivia: Did you know that ED employs ex-military personal with L-39 flight experience? ;) Lets discuss all things ED DCS L-39 here. (lets limit to ED's module only) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
GeorgeLKMT Posted September 8, 2014 Posted September 8, 2014 Trivia: Did you know that ED employs ex-military personal with L-39 flight experience? ;) Good to know! I'm sure she's in good hands *sound of credit card waving* I have a question though. Would it be possible to clarify one of my previous posts? Although I guess ED don't want to tell yet... I wonder how they're going to handle the release of C and ZA. I mean, they said they'll release C with ZA after, so is it going to be one price for two aircraft, or two separate modules? Because I can't imagine many people buying C, when they can buy basically the same aircraft only with weapon capabilities instead. ■ L-39C/ZA Czech cockpit mod ■ My DCS skins ■
ED Team NineLine Posted September 8, 2014 Author ED Team Posted September 8, 2014 Good to know! I'm sure she's in good hands *sound of credit card waving* I have a question though. Would it be possible to clarify one of my previous posts? Although I guess ED don't want to tell yet... I am not sure, I am sure there will be more news as we go along. I would imagine it would be two different aircraft, but how it will be handled I am not sure. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
GeorgeLKMT Posted September 8, 2014 Posted September 8, 2014 I am not sure, I am sure there will be more news as we go along. I would imagine it would be two different aircraft, but how it will be handled I am not sure. Ok then, let's wait for some news ;) There's not much left in 2014 so that should be fairly soon™ ■ L-39C/ZA Czech cockpit mod ■ My DCS skins ■
SkateZilla Posted September 8, 2014 Posted September 8, 2014 You have have Multiple Variants in a Single Module. (ie FC3), So if it ends up being 2 for 1, the 2nd Aircraft will likely be patched into the L-39 Module Entry LUA. But that's not saying they won't be released as separate Modules (ie A-10A and A-10C) Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
flanker1 Posted September 8, 2014 Posted September 8, 2014 i will pay for both, if it is planned to release two versions. by the way, good news from ED.
GeorgeLKMT Posted September 8, 2014 Posted September 8, 2014 Well the main reason I posted this question is that I saw a lot of "I don't want to fly civilian a/c in DCS" posts here and although I don't mind it, C and ZA are basically the same, only that ZA has weapons. So if they let people choose from two modules, I can imagine they would just buy ZA as there's not much to gain from buying C with it. So two-for-one does make more sense to me. :) ■ L-39C/ZA Czech cockpit mod ■ My DCS skins ■
Azrayen Posted September 8, 2014 Posted September 8, 2014 Trivia: Did you know that ED employs ex-military personal with L-39 flight experience? ;) I didn't, but I guess it's not too surprising either: any guy from Russia/"east" world with military fighter experience is likely to have flown a L-39 sometimes. :smartass: I've a mate, now flying "big boy" Sukhois, who still recalls with emotion how he once got flat tyres on the L-39 for landing it not so good (high temperatures in his country didn't help, IIRC). Cheers Az'
ED Team NineLine Posted September 8, 2014 Author ED Team Posted September 8, 2014 Well the main reason I posted this question is that I saw a lot of "I don't want to fly civilian a/c in DCS" posts here and although I don't mind it, C and ZA are basically the same, only that ZA has weapons. So if they let people choose from two modules, I can imagine they would just buy ZA as there's not much to gain from buying C with it. So two-for-one does make more sense to me. :) Yeah, I asked and its TBD... so we will see. I mostly agree with you though. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
ED Team f-18hornet Posted September 8, 2014 ED Team Posted September 8, 2014 Well the main reason I posted this question is that I saw a lot of "I don't want to fly civilian a/c in DCS" posts here and although I don't mind it, C and ZA are basically the same, only that ZA has weapons. So if they let people choose from two modules, I can imagine they would just buy ZA as there's not much to gain from buying C with it. So two-for-one does make more sense to me. :) I agree with that. Realease a C version first and then ZA as an update make sense to me as well. AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, GeForce RTX 2080Ti, 32 GB DRAM, HOTAS TM Warthog, FSSB R3 Lighting, MFG Crosswind, Win 10 Pro
SkateZilla Posted September 8, 2014 Posted September 8, 2014 Have a Civilian Version via Checkbox in the Mission editor, like the P-51 :) Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
piXel496 Posted September 8, 2014 Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Just to intertwine my opinion in this thread. I find it supportive and constructive that ED communicates there business decisions to there community and it sounds logic to have preconditions for third party developers. I don't read it as personal to anyone or to who ever makes what and how, but it is a good thing if DCS stands for a framework where goods are delivered. Personally the worst thing I can read about a to be released product for DCS is: We are very busy in our personal life and we do this for our hobby. Then silence.. and chit-chat. I truly believe this does more harm then good and for sure does not stand for a professional result. With regards to the L-39. I buy whatever release is close to reality and has an active cockpit :) . Edited September 8, 2014 by piXel496 I am sorry I am not a hippy old stuff I made
streakeagle Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 I am in favor of not hearing even one word about a product until it is very close to a beta release that is reasonably close to a final release. I know some people can't stand the fact the Belsimtek releases more betas before finalizing earlier ones, but I for one enjoy and fly all of their products more than anything else released for DCS. I will hold judgement on the DCS:L-39 until I see how it fits into their already aggressive schedule. If I think of the version of the L-39 like the T-38 vs the AT-38, I would prefer the primary version: the standard L-39 trainer. It is what I see flying over my head every week and what I would want to fly just for the sake of enjoying the flight model and some of the air demonstration team colors. If the differences are truly minimal, then why wouldn't I buy and fly the combat version in training colors in case I change my mind and want to use it for combat? Of course, I would be more than happy to get both versions for the price of one :) All I can do is wait and see what ED produces and when they produce it. If I am short of cash, combat aircraft come first. If I was only going to buy one trainer, it would be a T-38A. But I am planning on buying the Hawk and any other full-blown DCS standard aircraft (and even FC3 level modules) as long as my finances can support it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
leafer Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Man, I was one of a few people asking for an L-39 trainer from ED during the Flanker 2 days. A good old zeal reignited. :) Another new aircraft coming to DCS World later in 2014 will be the venerable L-39 jet trainer, developed by Eagle Dynamics. We will first release the L-39C variant and then later the L-39ZA variant. This aircraft has acted as the primary jet trainer for many countries around the world for several decades. In addition to its training role, the L-39 can also be loaded with ordnance and act as a light attack aircraft. We also plan for this module to include multiplayer front seat / back seat capability. We believe that this feature will add a new dimension of gameplay for this aircraft and several others like the UH-1H, Mi-8MTV2, Hawk, and C-101. Stay tuned for more details! Where did he say they both will be paid modules? ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
Zakatak Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Wait so is the Virtual Patriots L-39 a separate project and ED is making their own?
Raven68 Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) Wait so is the Virtual Patriots L-39 a separate project and ED is making their own? Yes... http://www.dcs-l39.com/ Remain on topic though. This thread is for ED's version Edited September 9, 2014 by Raven68 Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional HP Reverb G2 /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
Art-J Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Was a separate project, but apparently it's been cancelled. ED's is the only one in the works now. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
Winfield_Gold Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Happy to buy any module endorsed by ED. Looking forward to this one
Chlebakus Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 I am Czech, so take this question in a really patriotic manner. Will ED Albatros deliver with czech cockpit and with Czech skin? You know... It is Czech. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
siipperi Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Not interested in trainer aircraft in sims but hopefully this benefits other modules (F/A 18D anyone? :music_whistling: )
Netsk Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 I am Czech, so take this question in a really patriotic manner. Will ED Albatros deliver with czech cockpit and with Czech skin? You know... It is Czech. I hope not only a skin. The list of countries should really be expanded. Someone might remember me as 'FlyingRussian' from the Ubisoft Lock-On forum back in '03
Vedexent Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Not interested in trainer aircraft in sims but hopefully this benefits other modules (F/A 18D anyone? :music_whistling: ) Don't forget that only the C variant is a trainer. The ZA version is a light attack variant. (but yes, finally seeing the F/A 18D come out would be awesome :) )
Chlebakus Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 I hope not only a skin. The list of countries should really be expanded. I meant this is aircraft made by Aero Vodochody in the Czech Republic (Czechoslovakia in past). So I wonder if it will contain the original version. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ED Team NineLine Posted September 9, 2014 Author ED Team Posted September 9, 2014 I think they are modelling the Russian trainer version, so I don't know what that means for a Czech version of the cockpit and such, maybe it can be modded afterwards. When we have more information we can see what they are going to do. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Chlebakus Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 I think they are modelling the Russian trainer version, so I don't know what that means for a Czech version of the cockpit and such, maybe it can be modded afterwards. When we have more information we can see what they are going to do. What a shame it is. Me not like it, but will argue not, ser. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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