Corrigan Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 At my squad's weekly get-together I tried landing at 12 fps due to parked MiGs at the airfield. It was interesting. Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5
uboats Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Hi, After trying to dog fight at 15 FPS I found that completely removing the external model was the only solution. In flight I now get 50+ FPS. The sim feels so different it is incredible. Best regards, Tango. no external model, how can you aim the target? :D not try yet, it sounds funny [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My DCS Mods, Skins, Utilities and Scripts | Windows 10 | i7-4790K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32GB RAM | 3TB SSD | | TM Warthog Stick | CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedal | TIR5 Pro | TM MFD Cougar | Gun Camera: PrtScn |
Taproot Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Hi, After trying to dog fight at 15 FPS I found that completely removing the external model was the only solution. In flight I now get 50+ FPS. The sim feels so different it is incredible. Best regards, Tango. Screenshot? :-) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Cobra847 Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 I could use a low-fps guinea pig who has Skype, has low FPS, and is willing to drag and drop replace a few .edm's to report back. Anyone up for it? Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
Corrigan Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Sure, can do. PM me your skype. Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5
SkateZilla Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) I could use a low-fps guinea pig who has Skype, has low FPS, and is willing to drag and drop replace a few .edm's to report back. Anyone up for it? Still in office for 2 or so hours :( But, I usually use the EDM Viewer+FRAPs to gauge how much of a FPS hit each LOD is (open Main LOD, note FPS, Open Next one, note the increase, etc etc etc) That way you're just gauging the performance of the MIG-21 Mesh, and not having to worry about terrain, scenery, and AI Objects etc. Edited September 18, 2014 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Cobra847 Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Guinea Pigs aquired. Thanks guys. :D Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
uboats Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 I could use a low-fps guinea pig who has Skype, has low FPS, and is willing to drag and drop replace a few .edm's to report back. Anyone up for it? I do:thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My DCS Mods, Skins, Utilities and Scripts | Windows 10 | i7-4790K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32GB RAM | 3TB SSD | | TM Warthog Stick | CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedal | TIR5 Pro | TM MFD Cougar | Gun Camera: PrtScn |
Eldur Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) I have got a Radeon HD 6950. Me, too... strange, the MiG-21 fps are lower, but not by that much. Just took a comparison and flew around my test map with the F-15C instead, no fancy avionics etc. F-15: 30-50fps MiG-21: 20-40fps Just me starting on the ramp of Senaki and some ground targets scattered around the map, everything in a bit of distance to the base. Win 7 64 Pro Gigabyte GA Z77-D3H (BIOS v.23b) Intel i5 3570k Crucial Ballistix Tactical 16GB CL8 DDR3-1600 Powercolor HD6950 2GB (Catalyst 14.4) SB X-Fi Elite Pro (drivers dated 05 May 2010, ver 6.0.1.1375) VIA HD onboard audio (drivers dated 04 Aug 2010, ver 6.0.1.8700) MS FFB2 + Simped Vario Pro + Precision 2 + Precision Pro (latter 2 just for sliders) - FFB2 is joy1, Precision Pro is the first one in my device list + Dual Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant TrackIR 4 + 5.1.3 software Textures high Scenes high Civ Traffic off Water high Visib Range High Heat Blr on Shadows High Resolution 1920x1200 Aspect Ratio 16:10 Monitors 1 Screen Res. of cockpit displays 512 every frame MSAA off HDR off Clutters/bushes 0 Trees visiblity 6000 Preload radius 150000 Cockpit shadows ticked Mirrors off no mods, no tweaks Had it running at a lot lower settings, basically everything min/off except textures high and scenes + visib range med, that made just like 45-80fps (usually I have VSync on, so max 60). So cranking all up doesn't eat that much on my rig, it's just the usual rocket or minigun lots, smoke trails, cbus, rbk and wickmids that kill my frames. But well, that's TFCSE, EDGE will come this year, so what :smilewink: So we can expect performance like withe the LOD1 mesh tweak? Damn, I need a new graphics card. Me too... definately. Going to fetch a GTX 770 4GB probably, but I'll definately wait till both EDGE and the new GTX series have arrived, so I'll see if I get something similar for less cash or even stay with AMD and get a card similar in performance to what I want to get if it runs EDGE as well as nVidia. Edited September 18, 2014 by Eldur
theGozr Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 " The sim feels so different it is incredible." yes it does this why i was trying to say .. FPS will change the way you fly really and respond Still need a tester ? Fly it like you stole it..
theGozr Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 I wonder if the " Mi-8MTV2" is suffering from the same and could be tweak for a much better result. I hope that the Devs can have a good communication for the benefit of all . Fly it like you stole it..
theGozr Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 And yes this is the MiG-21 external view . Hope for the fix :) Fly it like you stole it..
Corrigan Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 The Hip is a bit different, I think, since the cockpit is so huge, lots of geometry with the pilots and all the breakers. But no optimization is perfect, obviously. Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5
Rykane Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) I hope you get guinea pigs users who have AMD and NVIDIA. That way it's not biased performance fixes. I am willing to help if you need anyone with a high end AMD card to test. Edited September 18, 2014 by Rykane
Corrigan Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 The tests we did didn't have any room for a manufacturer bias, don't worry. Unless drawing fewer objects makes performance worse with AMD :p Win10 x64 | SSDs | i5 2500K @ 4.4 GHz | 16 GB RAM | GTX 970 | TM Warthog HOTAS | Saitek pedals | TIR5
theGozr Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 I also mixing the edm files .. even Normal exterior edm make fps drops a lot. Fly it like you stole it..
theGozr Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 the EDm file for example the FW190 is 5.95 MB MiG-21 is 17.5mb and 13.7mb as "Normal "MiG-15 is 6.7mb ... F-86F is 9.04 mb .. just interesting Fly it like you stole it..
rcjonessnp175 Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Please make the fps fix optional, as my fps is just fine in 3d and dont want to lose how good this thing looks. For those who are having bad frames might be a prelude to the more intense graphics coming with dcs 2.0. May want to think about upgrading or in this case have an option for uber detail mig 21 to a low detail one. Just an idea I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift.
theGozr Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 As for the look EDGE will embellish the 3D's and shaders etc.. I'm not too worry but I want good FPS to enjoy the craft and not been sluggish. Fly it like you stole it..
theGozr Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Performance is to find the best way that a 3D model and computing systems can look and run with out compromising it's performance. So tuning to the best and then in 2.0 in EDGE will run smooth with others aircraft around and terrain etc.. Fly it like you stole it..
BS_Fighter Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 waiting for a fix unplayable for me atm. Same here, unplayable on High End System. This model again shows clearly the limits of the obsolete DCS Engine.
shagrat Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 No problem here on a above average PC, 40-60 fps (lowest yet, 28-30 in low level flight over Airport with other Migs and Hinds. Cold start mission. Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
trindade Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 No problem here on a above average PC, 40-60 fps (lowest yet, 28-30 in low level flight over Airport with other Migs and Hinds. Cold start mission. No problems here as well, 30-40 fps in the same mission, Rig: i5 2500 (no OC); 8gb; GTX 560 2Gb.
Cobra847 Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Quick update: We are making significant progress on improving performance. Hang in there! :) Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
Rykane Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Quick update: We are making significant progress on improving performance. Hang in there! :) Great to hear Cobra! Can't wait to get to actually properly fly this beast.
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