VKB Gladiator WWII joystick

[RFC Rudel]

VKB Rules

[Sokol1_br]

Seems that Gladiator sticks finally will hit the market: ;)

 

image uploading site

[rrohde]

Nice to see some "behind the scenes" impression from VKB! :)

[98abaile]

What will their price be?

[Sokol1_br]

Is know price for USA (and Canada) market:

 

VKB Stratojet PR May17Final pdf

 

Or for buy direct from VKB in China:

 

http://shop.vkb-sim.pro/shop/

 

Shipping cost will be around 40$.

 

For Europe (Asia and Latin America) was created a... "imbroglio". :doh:

Edited June 6, 2016 by Sokol1_br

[hansangb]

Sokol1_br, I know it's been asked a million times, but I can't seem to remember. The Pro model (one I'm interested in) will have adapter to use TM Stick without the need to reconfigure anything? Will all the hats/buttons map as if it were just a Warthog? For the moment, I'm not worried about the additional switches that comes with the base unit on the VKB.

[Sokol1_br]

When you install a Warthog grip on VKB base is need run their Config software and set the buttons/HAT, since the installed grip has another button layout/count.

 

See part3: http://forum.vkb-sim.pro/viewtopic.php?f=27&p=21543&sid=fee32a4becf8fc80c911560e545b45c3#p21543

[SVgamer72]

Has anyone successfully used a CH Fighterstick grip?

 

I just pre-ordered a Gladiator Pro, and I would like more buttons/hats while i wait for more grips from VKB to become available.

 

Thanks!

[Sokol1_br]

For now VKB don't offer this option - as CH grip is not removible like Warthog/Cougar - (IMO) they are "missing the boat" with some "sim" market peculiarities. :)

 

But a guy use CH Fighterstick grip on VKB Njoy32 - dont know if in Cobra M-5 or Mamba base. So electronics wise is feasible.

 

http://forum.vkb-sim.pro/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2037

 

CH grips use diode matrix for manage buttons and HATS. Warthog, Cougar, Tm F16FLCS, F22PRO, Cobra M5 and VKB Mamba (same M5 grip) use Shift Register.

 

In that case, as NJOY32 is very powerful, flexible and configurable, was simple matter of set in VKB Configurator for diode matrix mode, instead Shift Register mode.

 

But, in any case for use CH grip will by not "PnP" like Warthog grip (what require some work), will require some DIY, but as Gladiator PRO became common on the market, people will find practical solutions, for example fitting a Shift Register board inside CH grip (In Debolesis thread are PCB for make one, that cost little).

 

Other part that will require DIY work is fit the grip, as VKB don't provide a "CH adapter" like for Warthog/Cougar, you have to get a Warthog adapter and fit in CH grip, what probable require modifications in this grip lower part.

Edited June 7, 2016 by Sokol1_br

[SVgamer72]

For now VKB don't offer this option - as CH grip is not removible like Warthog/Cougar ......

.......

Other part that will require DIY work is fit the grip, as VKB don't provide a "CH adapter" like for Warthog/Cougar, you have to get a Warthog adapter and fit in CH grip, what probable require modifications in this grip lower part.

 

Thanks for the info!

 

I can't wait to get my hands on the Gladiator Pro. :)

[debolestis]

OK, so you want me to make CH to VKB adapter?

Shift register is already made.

Problem is that I don't have VKB hardware. Can you find a measurments of Warthog to VKB adapter. What connector is used?

Edited June 7, 2016 by debolestis

[ebabil]

gunfighter pro looks good for helicopter cyclic, isn't it?

if only it has more buttons.

[Sokol1_br]

OK, so you want me to make CH to VKB adapter?

Shift register is already made.

Problem is that I don't have VKB hardware. Can you find a measurments of Warthog to VKB adapter. What connector is used?

 

VKB adapter for Warthog inside connector look PS2.

 

 

And the adapter don't use the Warthog nut, but a bolt to fit.

 

Well, better await someone put their hands on Gladiator PRO. :)

Edited June 7, 2016 by Sokol1_br

[iborg]

Well, I'm glad I got into that last load of Fat Mambas

[Sokol1_br]

Nerdtech review of Gladiator PRO:

 

http://nerdtechy.com/vkb-sim-gladiator-pro-joystick-review

Edited June 15, 2016 by Sokol1_br

[Bourrinopathe]

That's a weird review (and thanks for sharing).

It feels like the guy didn't use the flight stick extensively. No information about the flight stick response/feeling (except for a very vague "quite responsive"), also no information about the current programming software.

I'm wondering if the author really tested a proper unit or based his opinion on a generic set of information.

 

Also, it might be a personal preference, but the lack of twist rudder is definitely a feature and an improvement when it comes to pitch and roll controls. Absolutely not a trade-off.

There's the Gladiator for these combined controls.

[Sokol1_br]

This is typical from "game perspective" of this kind of blog.

 

They just play "15 minutes" of War Thunder or similar game to make their options* about products, for he is not different to play COD/Bf with some kind of gamepad.

 

* Notice that he is sponsored by Amazon. :)

 

In the past the ancient SimHQ used to make good controllers reviews, but the last about X-55 was very "shallow", not too different of Nerd Tech. :D

Edited June 15, 2016 by Sokol1_br

[Bourrinopathe]

Oh ok. :D

Then I hope some guys at Mudspike, CheckSix and the like will get their honest paws on a review unit. ;)

[SVgamer72]

Nerdtech review of Gladiator PRO:

 

http://nerdtechy.com/vkb-sim-gladiator-pro-joystick-review

 

I think it is a bogus review that is being used to get click-through traffic to Amazon.

[RFC Rudel]

sokol1 please I will require that you name the sources of your news.......

 

 

That Review is to discredit the product.

 

the word BAD in the title. and so many critics.

read the Saitek review......x65 is the best of the best not even mention the lack of support and Saitek 6 months life expectancy.

 

 

canfieldmediagroup.com

Tech City: PANAMA

Tech State/Province: PANAMA

 

that also is owned by

Cogswell Enterprises

 

ssl certificate and dns names errors is typical of configured in a hurry

 

I like the review of the DOS and fuzzing gadget, but can only reach it on the search box.

[SinusoidDelta]

I would pay no mind to that review. It's a typical piece of webzine hack journalism. It's as if she wrote the entire review without ever using any joystick. She apparently enjoys switching out the cams but doesn't say much else. The price is expensive according to her....but only in comparison to the previous model. What about the price of the competition? She also seems to hate rudder pedals. No matter the complexity and quality of the mechanics, all sticks must have twist just like a Logitech 3D Pro. :crash:

[Sokol1_br]

sokol1 please I will require that you name the sources of your news...

 

What? :confused: The source is in the link for the review. :D

 

If you don't like complain with the guy, I am just the "messenger", don't shoot at me. :lol:

Edited June 15, 2016 by Sokol1_br

[Bourrinopathe]

She apparently enjoys switching out the cams but doesn't say much else. The price is expensive according to her....but only in comparison to the previous model. What about the price of the competition? She also seems to hate rudder pedals. No matter the complexity and quality of the mechanics, all sticks must have twist just like a Logitech 3D Pro. :crash:

 

She/they definitely did not receive the Gladiator Pro from VKB (I asked), so I'm wondering how her psychic powers had foreseen all the Gladiator Pro properties :music_whistling:

You can paint that bunch of sentences as pure BS (because it's taking the reader for a fool).

 

Thanks for bringing this article to our attention, Sokol. And of course it's not your fault people just want money thrown at them ;)

 

[EDIT: ah I remember I've read part of an early review about the X56 on that very same website (from a guy named TechGuru, expert for many years) via Reddit and of course it was a bunch of non-information. Clickbait it is.]

Edited June 16, 2016 by Bourrinopathe

[RFC Rudel]

 

Thanks for bringing this article to our attention, Sokol. And of course it's not your fault people just want money thrown at them ;)

 

you are welcome I always inform sokol1.

 

 

Twist adaptor is on development.........:pilotfly:

[Goblin]

Nerdtech review of Gladiator PRO:

 

http://nerdtechy.com/vkb-sim-gladiator-pro-joystick-review

 

LOL! A reviewer that thinks the lack of twist rudders is a minus... I think it's a plus! :-D